Crashing when I hit enemies with arrows

[theleadingman08]

This just started a couple days ago.

When I hit certain enemies with bows, the game will immediately and consistently CTD, no error message or anything. I've killed draugrs with my bow, but the instant I hit the draugr overlord at Bleak Falls Barrow - crash every time. I've killed skeletons, but some random wolf - crash every time.

 

My load order is:

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

Wyrmstooth.esp

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

HelmetToggle2.02b.esp

Tes4mod.esp

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

Serana.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp

SkyUI.esp

Sky Tweak.esp

Rebirth Monster.esp

Undeath.esp

More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp

Aurora - Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp

SmartCast_1_0.esp

VendorSaleDelay-Gone.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp

Better Vampire Weapons.esp

apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp

AHZmoreHUD.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

The Coenaculi.esp

The Coenaculi_Makeup.esp

UnreadBooksGlow.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

RRElphintos.esp

Schwertleite Set.esp

MoreAuroras.esp

ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp

WestWindMisfit.esp

Dawnguard - Join As A Vampire.esp

Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp

Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

Extended UI.esp

VioLens.esp

AH Hotkeys.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

ASIS-Dependency.esp

ASIS.esp

 

I've tried uninstalling some of the minor mods one at a time, and gotten no results

Sacrosanct is new to my latest playthru, and I've also updated Imperious and Aurora Standing Stones. I'm wondering if perhaps one of those is causing the problem, but I'd prefer not to go to the trouble of starting a new game.

 

Attached is my latest Papyrus log.

EDIT: apparently I'm not "permitted to upload this kind of file" when I try to attach my papyrus log to this post?

Edited December 3, 2016 by theleadingman08

[snelss0]

1. Don't worry about the Papyrus log.
2. If I had to guess, this may be due to a skeleton issue? Not as in undead, but as in underneath your character and NPCs' skins. If you are using a Skeleton mod like xpmse, put it just above your Alternate Start mod in your load order, and make sure you have realistic ragdolls in your installed mods. It could be that one or more of your mods requires this mod and it isn't there.
3. It also could be an ENB issue. In the bug reports, some ENBs seem to conflict with Undeath and cause a flare light when you hit. I could see this potentially causing a crash. Maybe try disabling your enb and see if it still happens?

[theleadingman08]

- Is CBBE a skeleton? If so that's all I've got, and I've been using it forever without trouble. As far as I can tell, I don't have a .esp related to skeletons, and Alternate Start is at the bottom of my load order anyway. I've already downloaded but not installed Realistic Ragdolls, so I guess I can give that a shot. It'll have to wait till tomorrow, though.

 

- I don't have an ENB. Does Undeath cause vanilla problems?

[snelss0]

No, CBBE is not a skeleton, it is a body mod. If you want to install and use HDT physics items or TBBP or anything like that you will need a skeleton. If you don't have it, don't worry about it or ragdolls mod.

 

I don't believe Undead does cause vanilla problems. It also doesn't cause problems on a lot of ENB files, but it was just a mention in the posts section that someone made.

 

Also, make sure you are testing your mods out on new games, not your existing one. Other than that, the only last bit of advice I could maybe give is to maybe delete your skyrim.esm, update.esm, and your dlc.esms from your skyrim/data folder and then revalidate your cache through steam. Then reclean the files and see if that corrects the error. Perhaps there was some corruption in the files? Also make sure you've installed your SKSE properly.

[theleadingman08]

Fresh install, clean files, new game, shot a wolf, crashed.

I'll go play some other games for a while.

 

EDIT: Since I was starting a new game anyway, I started playing with some of the larger mods. There's more testing to be done, but it looks like Sacrosanct of all things was causing it.

 

EDIT2: I'm sorry, Sacrosanct, I was wrong to blame you. I think messing around with "Max Attached Arrows" in SkyTweak is causing the crashes. I'll do some more thorough testing after work tomorrow, but if that's the case... it was such a simple fix...

Edited December 5, 2016 by theleadingman08

[naruto2693]

No, CBBE is not a skeleton, it is a body mod. If you want to install and use HDT physics items or TBBP or anything like that you will need a skeleton. If you don't have it, don't worry about it or ragdolls mod.

 

I don't believe Undead does cause vanilla problems. It also doesn't cause problems on a lot of ENB files, but it was just a mention in the posts section that someone made.

 

Also, make sure you are testing your mods out on new games, not your existing one. Other than that, the only last bit of advice I could maybe give is to maybe delete your skyrim.esm, update.esm, and your dlc.esms from your skyrim/data folder and then revalidate your cache through steam. Then reclean the files and see if that corrects the error. Perhaps there was some corruption in the files? Also make sure you've installed your SKSE properly.

 

it was indeed iMaxattachedarrows