Need help with low FPS!

[choyun1]

Hello everyone, I am getting very low fps on my New Vegas install (~5-10 according to fraps) and I was wondering if anybody could help me out.

 

Here's my comp specs:

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

AMD Phenom II processor (4 CPUs), ~3.4 Ghz

4096 MB RAM

GeFOrce GTX 560 Ti (~2785 MB)

1920 x 1080 resolution

 

I'm also running quite a few mods:

All the DLCs

Project Nevada (all components)

Nevada Skies

Poco Bueno detailed texture mod

Electro-City

Weapons Mod Expansion

More perks/traits

Essential Visual Enhancements

Unified HuD project (aHUD, iHUD, adv recon, radar HUD, primary needs)

Willow NPC mod

New Vegas Bounties 1 and 2

Cipcis Automatic Save Manager

 

I installed them mostly following Gopher's instructions on YouTube.

 

Here's the issue in more detail: At the beginning of the game, the game runs perfectly fine at 30 fps. The game steadily loses performance until after about 3 hours of playing, it bottoms out at about 10 fps. I've started new games a number of times with different mods installed, and the same thing happens. It doesn't seem to make a difference whether I run at Ultra, High, or Medium graphics settings (also tried lowering resolution; didn't help). Saving, loading, and restarting does not help at all once the fps tanks. There's no issue with stability once I disabled auto-save features.

 

So far I've tried the fnv4GB fix, Fake Full Screen, NV Stutter remover, and d3d9.dll fix, none of which helped. I have latest updates for everything and latest drivers. After 3 days of researching the web and my settings, I'm completely stumped. Maybe one of the mods listed above has known memory leak issues? Any ideas would be very much appreciated! :D

[adman85]

Try the mod Purge Cell Buffers.

 

It cleans out unused references every 10 minutes or so to help stop leaks from slowly causing a CTD.

 

Well in theory it should be exactly what you are looking for.

[Jeoshua]

That or you need more cooling on your video card.

 

Actually I ran across the situation that the heat comming off the video card slowly popped the plug out on the fan. I wouldn't get more than 9 frames until I discovered the fan wasn't turning at all. Plugging it back in worked, but I play with the side of the computer off. It doubles as a heater in the wintertime :sweat:

[choyun1]

I forgot to mention that the video card came overclocked. Specifically:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130610

 

I don't think cooling is the issue. The temperature never rises over 40 C and the fans seem to be working. Also, the game wouldn't have such low fps right when I start playing a saved game if overheating were the issue, right?

 

Purge cell buffer seems like it might work. But it wouldn't do any good for a saved game right? I'd have to start a new one?

 

The most frustrating thing is I can't test things immediately; I have to play a newly started game for an hour or so before the symptoms start to show. >_<;

[choyun1]

Some further info:

 

The game uses ~600 MB of memory while running (according to task manager) and the physical memory usage never exceeds 2.5 GB. Likewise, CPU usage never goes above 60% or so. The save files are ~6 MB, which seems too small to be a problem.

[adman85]

I think PCB will start working on any save you load, I may be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure.

 

It probably wont help directly with FPS, but it should stop the time related crashes at least.

[smokeejoe]

Hello everyone, I am getting very low fps on my New Vegas install (~5-10 according to fraps) and I was wondering if anybody could help me out.

 

Here's my comp specs:

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

AMD Phenom II processor (4 CPUs), ~3.4 Ghz

4096 MB RAM

GeFOrce GTX 560 Ti (~2785 MB)

1920 x 1080 resolution

 

I'm also running quite a few mods:

All the DLCs

Project Nevada (all components)

Nevada Skies

Poco Bueno detailed texture mod

Electro-City

Weapons Mod Expansion

More perks/traits

Essential Visual Enhancements

Unified HuD project (aHUD, iHUD, adv recon, radar HUD, primary needs)

Willow NPC mod

New Vegas Bounties 1 and 2

Cipcis Automatic Save Manager

 

I installed them mostly following Gopher's instructions on YouTube.

 

Here's the issue in more detail: At the beginning of the game, the game runs perfectly fine at 30 fps. The game steadily loses performance until after about 3 hours of playing, it bottoms out at about 10 fps. I've started new games a number of times with different mods installed, and the same thing happens. It doesn't seem to make a difference whether I run at Ultra, High, or Medium graphics settings (also tried lowering resolution; didn't help). Saving, loading, and restarting does not help at all once the fps tanks. There's no issue with stability once I disabled auto-save features.

 

So far I've tried the fnv4GB fix, Fake Full Screen, NV Stutter remover, and d3d9.dll fix, none of which helped. I have latest updates for everything and latest drivers. After 3 days of researching the web and my settings, I'm completely stumped. Maybe one of the mods listed above has known memory leak issues? Any ideas would be very much appreciated! :D

 

Holy crap.. I too have been searching for an answer to the exact same problem. I've now started 3 separate games all ending when it becomes unplayable at 8-10 fps after a few hours. I have a very similar setup, and I just copy/pasted and minor edited a lot of your initial post because our situations are THAT similar.

 

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

AMD Phenom II 970 processor (4 CPUs), ~3.5 Ghz

8192 MB RAM

GeFOrce GTX 460 SE (~1024 MB)

1680 x 1050 resolution

 

I'm also running quite a few mods:

All the DLCs

Project Nevada (all components)

Nevada Skies

Poco Bueno detailed texture mod

Electro-City

Weapons Mod Expansion

More perks/traits

Essential Visual Enhancements

Unified HuD project (aHUD, iHUD, adv recon, radar HUD, primary needs)

New Vegas Bounties 1

Cipcis Automatic Save Manager

 

I installed them mostly following Gopher's instructions on YouTube.

 

Mod list below:

 

 

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

CaravanPack.esm

Advanced Recon Tech.esm

CINEMATECH.esm

Detect Traps.esm

Lucky38Suite_Reloaded.esm

AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm

More Perks.esm

More Perks for Companions.esm

More Perks for Dead Money.esm

More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm

More Perks for Old World Blues.esm

More Traits.esm

NSkies URWLified.esm

Primary Needs HUD.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

Weapon Mod Expansion.esm

WME - GRA Light.esm

WME - DLCs.esm

ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm

ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm

aHUD.esm

iHUD.esm

DarNifiedUINV.esp

CASM.esp

Further3rdPersonCamera.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

Project Nevada - Dead Money.esp

Project Nevada - Honest Hearts.esp

Project Nevada - Old World Blues (No Cyberware).esp

Project Nevada - Gun Runners' Arsenal.esp

Project Nevada - Lonesome Road.esp

NewVegasBounties.esp

Cowboy Perk Complete - New Vegas Bounties.esp

Detect Traps - Perk.esp

More Perks Update.esp

More Perks for Companions Update.esp

More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp

More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp

More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp

More Traits Update.esp

Detect Traps - Traponator 4000.esp

Detect Traps - DLC.esp

Advanced Recon Gear.esp

Advanced Recon Tech.esp

Advanced Recon Tech - Detect Traps.esp

clintsfistfulrevolver.esp

ilbuonorevolver.esp

Advanced Recon Armor.esp

Advanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.esp

Dark Justice Duster.esp

FlashlightNVSE.esp

manwithnoname.esp

AWOPLowRobots.esp

AWOP-LowNPCS.esp

AWOPLowLootGeneral.esp

AWOPLowLootMWeapons.esp

AWOPLowLootSkillBooks.esp

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

Quick Trade.esp

Weapon Mod Expansion.esp

The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

Project Nevada - WME.esp

WME - GRA Light.esp

WME - DLCs.esp

WME - Arenovalis.esp

EVE FNV.esp

Project Nevada - EVE.esp

Vurt's WFO.esp

ELECTRO-CITY - Inventory Sorters Compatibility Patch - ElectroCityCATEYEvalue.esp

NSkies URWLifiedOWB.esp

NSkies URWLifiedHH.esp

NSkies URWLifiedDM.esp

DYNAVISION 2 - Dynamic Lens Effect.esp

ELECTRO-CITY - Imaginator.esp

Directors Chair.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

 

I have also tried many fixeds, though not the d3d9.dll fix because I did not want to overwrite the already existing one that was included with FNV_Enhanced Shaders. I may try it but I don't see how it would help as I believe the .dll fix was prevalent when FNV first came out and was related to NPC faces. I do use the fnv4GB fix, Fake Full Screen and NV Stutter remover and am getting 40-50 fps outdoors when I first start a new game. Then, as the OP, as I continue to play the fps steadily comes down until after a few hours I'm at 8-10 fps.

 

Please keep me updated OP if you find a fix and I will do the same!

Edited January 6, 2012 by smokeejoe

[choyun1]

Alright, solved kind of. Enough for me anyways.

 

I de-activated all mods and re-installed only the following:

 

All DLC's

Darnified UI (I had this before if I didn't mention it)

Cipcis' Automatic Save Manager

Willow Companion Mod

More Perks (and all the patches for DLC's)

Project Nevada (and DLC support)

Purge Cell Buffer

 

I am currently in 2-3 hours or so and I have no degradation of performance whatsoever on ultra high settings. I'm still running the 4gb RAM and Fake Fullscreen.

 

Mainly, I am missing New Vegas Bounties, Nevada Skies, Poco Bueno Texture pack, and Weapon Mods Expanded. I guess my system did not like one of those mods.

[smokeejoe]

Alright, solved kind of. Enough for me anyways.

 

I de-activated all mods and re-installed only the following:

 

All DLC's

Darnified UI (I had this before if I didn't mention it)

Cipcis' Automatic Save Manager

Willow Companion Mod

More Perks (and all the patches for DLC's)

Project Nevada (and DLC support)

Purge Cell Buffer

 

I am currently in 2-3 hours or so and I have no degradation of performance whatsoever on ultra high settings. I'm still running the 4gb RAM and Fake Fullscreen.

 

Mainly, I am missing New Vegas Bounties, Nevada Skies, Poco Bueno Texture pack, and Weapon Mods Expanded. I guess my system did not like one of those mods.

 

I guess I'll try removing some mods.. just hate to do that because it's rather stable (except for the fps loss over time lol). Have you tried adding mods back?

 

edit: if it's not too much trouble, could you post your mod order before and after you fixed your problem?

Edited January 6, 2012 by smokeejoe

[adman85]

Alright, solved kind of. Enough for me anyways.

 

I de-activated all mods and re-installed only the following:

 

All DLC's

Darnified UI (I had this before if I didn't mention it)

Cipcis' Automatic Save Manager

Willow Companion Mod

More Perks (and all the patches for DLC's)

Project Nevada (and DLC support)

Purge Cell Buffer

 

I am currently in 2-3 hours or so and I have no degradation of performance whatsoever on ultra high settings. I'm still running the 4gb RAM and Fake Fullscreen.

 

Mainly, I am missing New Vegas Bounties, Nevada Skies, Poco Bueno Texture pack, and Weapon Mods Expanded. I guess my system did not like one of those mods.

 

Well now, you could try reactivating each mod one by one in FOMM to see which (if any one in particular) is the direct cause. FOMM will allow you to deactivate them too so you shouldn't have to reinstall if it does happen again.

 

With such a small mod list, I don't think that's the problem (i start getting problems around the 100 mod mark, and I'm currently playing with around 80 mods).

 

It may just be one mod causing leaks for you, it would suck to have to miss out on all these awesome mods because of one.

 

To be honest, I have removed all weather mods currently. As awesome as they are, and no matter how much I thought that I couldn't go back to vanilla weather, without them, I have had a decent increase in performance and a whole lot less CTD.

 

EDIT; I just noticed EVE in your original list too, this is another that I begrudgingly removed (it's so awesome I know) because I had graphic related crashes, I'm sure that's not the problem for you but slow leak + boosted textures in combat (one of the crashiest times) will eventually cause a CTD.

Edited January 6, 2012 by adman85