Noob follows guides, makes good on load order...still needs help...

[SkullBunny69]

Hey guys/gals/binary independent, how's it going? Let me first prefix this by letting you all know that I'm extremely new to all of this (pc included) I'm 42 years old, and I've owned my very first computer for ~8 months now. My nephew talked me into, and helped with, building one. I had been on console until then, and never really had need for a pc so didn't have one. So...please...be gentle =P .

 

That doesn't mean I'm stupid. Simply inexperienced. I learn pretty fast if you want to help teach me.

 

So after much toil and trouble, trial and error, and the patience grinding process of resorting load orders, moving things around, and constantly just loading up a save long enough to make sure it's even going to run, let alone run properly. It's not easy enjoying these wonderful works, but it's definitely worth the time, trouble, and effort. So I followed a few guides, and eventually really ended up, kind of, structuring my load order based on Gambit's load order in the 5th post of the http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/2228/? (<- Armorsmith Extended) comment section.

 

FINALLY...my game loads, looks amazing, and runs pretty good for the most part (5 hours of straight gameplay with no CTD's). I'm just getting this random "shuddering" effect (the best way I can describe this is to say think of one of those old flip through cartoon books that you fanned the pages and the cartoon played out, or an old Charlie Chaplin movie) I'm guessing this is my fps dropping, but I'm not sure, and I'm wondering if anyone can help with resolving this. Now, I understand that with the amount of mods that I have installed (~230 active mods, 174 active plugins) that there's going to be a chance of performance hit, but the game runs perfectly...for the most part. So, I'm thinking that my load order is still a bit off, and I realize that this is probably a dumb idea, but I'm going to try anyway... I'm wondering if you guys could maybe give me some advice on tweaking it.

 

First, my rig stats...

GTX760 2GB

12GB RAM

AMD 8120FX CPU

OS is on a fairly old HDD, but game runs from a 90GB SSD (could be part of the problem?)

Windows 10 Home

Mod Organizer 2.0.8

 

Next let me tell you that I followed this tutorial on setup, and installed everything EXCEPT a ReShade/ENB preset (that is to say all of the recommended tools, resources, and ini tweaks. Everything down to the ModWiki Core recommendations, I found his mod order to be a bit outdated in places, and already had a good idea of what I wanted to use, but I did take a few ideas from him, and Gambit)...

 

http://wiki.step-project.com/User:Gernash/MODWiki#Base_Mods

 

I just have no clue how to use any of those tools that I installed, and finding good, informative videos on how to use them is futile at best. So, here's my load order, as it sits, any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks...

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Fallout4.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCWorkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCWorkshop02.esm
DLCWorkshop03.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm
SpringCleaning.esm
ArmorKeywords.esm
Loads.esm
NewCalibers.esp
Snap'n Build.esm
SettlementKeywords.esm
Arbitration - Resources.esm
Homemaker.esm
FO4Hotkeys.esp
PARepairGoggles.esp
spacefiddle_Follower-Stealth-Distance-Fixes.esp
No Crafting and Settlement Experience.esp
TinaDeLucaSettlerVoiced.esp
3dscopes.esp
3dscopes-framework.esp
3dscopes-FarHarbor.esp
Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp
Homemaker - Greenhouse and Bunker Disabler SKE.esp
Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power SKE.esp
OCDecorator.esp
OCDecoratorDLC.esp
OCDispenser.esp
OCDecorator - No Experience.esp
AES_Renovated Furniture.esp
SettleObjExpandPack.esp
AkaSinger.esp
ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp
WorkshopRearranged.esp
ImmersiveVendors.esp
RealTroughs.esp
LongerPowerLines3x.esp
RecycleBottles.esp
_mcAutosave.esp
ColorfulSurvivalIcons.esp
CTHColoredFriendliesSneakingAndOrWeaponDrawn-NSL.esp
ShellRain.esp
LooksMenu.esp
KSHairdos.esp
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
Lots More Facial Hair.esp
Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp
ExtendedHairColors.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
HDReworkedProjectRevised.esp
Weaponsmith Extended 2.esp
Settlement Resources Rebalanced.esp
DiverseChildren.esp
BetterSettlers.esp
BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp
BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
BetterSettlersFarHarborPatchMortal.esp
BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp
SettlerRenaming.esp
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
FAR.esp
CBBE.esp
Dirty Raiders Standalone for CBBE.esp
UniquePlayer.esp
UniqueFollowers.esp
RaiderFaceVariety_2.0.esp
TrapperFaceVariety.esp
ShieldedSettlers.esp
WorkshopRearranged_RenovatedFurniture_Patch.esp
Muzzle Flash.esp
def_inv_scrap_en.esp
Workshop Rearranged - Valdacil Patch.esp
No more monochrome - Color setting for the Pipboy!.esp
Scavver's Toolbox.esp
QuickEnterFromStand.esp
QuickExitToStand.esp
QuickTrade.esp
NPCGreetingTweak50.esp
dD-Enhanced Blood.esp
dD - Limited Blood Decals.esp
dD - Small Splatter Size.esp
dD - Screen Blood Duration Medium.esp
EnclaveX02.esp
Anchorage Power Armor.esp
Crafting Workbench.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Removed Crafting Experience.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Faction and Quest Requirements.esp
Craftable Armor Size.esp
Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp
Brotherhood of Steel Kit.esp
Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons.esp
Realistic Guns and Bullets Overhaul.esp
AkaSingersWardrobe.esp
R97R Colonial Duster.esp
Armorsmith Extended.esp
Synth Overhaul.esp
HN66-SiriusArmor.esp
PoliceGlassesStandalone.esp
Hoodless Scribe Hat.esp
Eli_ArmourCollection.esp
Eli_Accessories.esp
Eli_Apocalypse Attire.esp
DX Adventurer Outfit.esp
DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp
Armorsmith Deserter X.esp
Armorsith All DLCs Patch.esp
Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - AWKCR.esp
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Ballistic Weave.esp
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Power Armor Carry Capacity.esp
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - AWKCR Power Armor.esp
K9TacticalHarness.esp
LagrieHelmet.esp
AllCamoUniforms.esp
Dogmeat's Backpack.esp
AllCamoUniformsAddon01.esp
AllCamoUniformsAddon02.esp
AllCamoUniformsMods.esp
AllCamoUniformsWorkbench.esp
NanoArmor.esp
NanoArmor_AWKCR_AE.esp
strong_PA.esp
strong_PA - AWKCR.esp
Toxic Raider Armour.esp
Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
CutWeaponModsRestored.esp
CutWeaponModsRestored-Automatron.esp
CutWeaponModsRestored-FarHarbor.esp
CWMR-Patch-AWKCR.esp
3dscopes-AddToSpawnList - CWMR Compatible.esp
FlaconOil HD ReTexture_Performance Pack_Part_1.esp
SnapBeds.esp
SnapBedsHomemakerPatch.esp
SnapBedsWorkshopRearrangedPatch.esp
3DNPC_FO4.esp
Enhanced Flickering Firelight.esp
WeaponSmith Extended 2 - Survival Ammo Weight Patch.esp
MojaveImports.esp
CutWeaponModsRestored-NukaWorld.esp
3dscopes-NukaWorld.esp
Extended weapon mods.esp
NewCalibers_extendedWeaponMods.esp
NAC.esp
SmartLoadOut.esp
SmartLoadOut-DLC.esp
SmartLoadOut-SK.esp
NAC-FarHarbor.esp
NAC-NukaWorld.esp
NAC - Settings Holotape - VIS.esp
ValdacilsItemSorting - WastelandImports TAGS.esp
WorkshopRearranged_MojaveImports_Patch.esp
Binoculars.esp
RaiderOverhaul.esp
Raider Overhaul - AE Patch-Restored Content.esp
Raider Overhaul - AE Patch.esp
PAMAP.esp
Consistent Power Armor Overhaul.esp
FALLOUT4WT.esp
CPAO - PAMAP 2.0 Patch.esp
EnclaveX02_PAMAP.esp
D.E.C.A.Y.esp
My_Minutemen.esp
Underground Railroad.esp
DeadlierDeathclaws.esp
VaultTecAcceleratedFocusSystem.esp
LegendaryModification.esp
LegendaryModificationCSA.esp
LegendaryModificationMisc.esp
LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor.esp
My_Minutemen - AE - Valdacils Item Sorting Patch .esp
VaultTecAcceleratedFocusSystem - FarHarbor.esp
VaultTecAcceleratedFocusSystem - NukaWorld.esp
VAFS - VIS Patch.esp
SuperMutantOverhaul.esp
Wastelander's Cookbook.esp
[PPE] Wastelander's Cookbook + Mojave Imports [Patch].esp
WCB - ViS Sorting Patch.esp
Cannabis Commonwealth.esp
Cannabis Commonwealth - Merged LLP.esp
AE LLP - Lagrie Helmets - Raider Overhaul.esp
NanoSuit.esp
NanoSuit_AWKCR_AE.esp
CWMR-Patch-Extended weapon mods.esp
3DNPC_FO4_DLC.esp
Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - The Castle.esp
More Smarter Companions Mod.esp
Boston Pirate Radio.esp
Eli_Rockin Red Rocket.esp
JMSFoundary.esp
Mercenary.esp
Wastelanders XM2076 by giggity12345.esp
BetterStores.esp
AkaWaterWorld.esp
AtomicRadio.esp
BS-FarHarborExpansion.esp
WorkshopRearranged_AtomicRadio_Patch.esp
Campsite.esp
Campsite-Full-Sleep.esp
Campsite-AWKCR.esp
SalvageBeacons.esp
Armorsmith Elianora.esp
Eli_RuggedOutfits.esp
Eli's Merged Clothing.esp
NukaRadBans.esp
BetterSettlersCCAPack1.1b.esp
FSC- Armorsmith Extended.esp
Clothing Of The Commonwealth.esp
Glowing Animals Emit Light.esp
AllDeathclawsGlow.esp
DynamicInteriorFogRemoval.esp
SuperMutantOverHaul-Armorsmith.esp
DIFR - VIS Patch.esp
TrueReporter.esp
RangerSequoia.esp
Weaponsmith - Super Mutant Redux Patch.esp
Weaponsmith - Armorsmith - Synth Overhaul Patch.esp
Legendary Overhaul.esp
PAMAP_Full-VIS_BySlot_Patch.esp
RaiderOverhaul_PAMAP.esp
Piper.esp
P.G.Overhaul.esp
Cait.esp
Old Longfeller.esp
PlayerLockpicking.esp
Strong Back - Improved -- Far Harbor.esp
EveryonesBestFriend.esp
DogmeatDistance.esp
Move (Get Out the Way).esp
SC_ExpandedScrapList.esp
Allz Teh Fixez.esp

 

Like I said, I went off of Gambit's load order, but he's got a s***-ton of stuff that I don't, and I've got quite a few that he doesn't. (Like I'm running Natural Atmospheric Commonwealth [NAC] which replaces everything from True Storms, and WET, to Darker Nights to Fr4nson's light tweaks, Interiors Enhanced.. and so on) So I wasn't sure, on a lot of that, where to put it, and just kind of sprinkled most of it around the load order. So, again, any advice on tweaking things, or directions to patches that I may be missing, and especially any video tutorials you may know of (or even written tutorials. They'll take me longer to figure out, but at this point I'm desperate) are EXTREMELY appreciated. Thanks again.

 

{TL;DR} - Finally running stable, still kind of f***ed up, load order's up there if you wanna have a look.... HAALP !!! ...thanks. :-)

Edited January 4, 2017 by Malachai6669

[SkullBunny69]

So, I got the load order sorted as best I can. I've got it running, no more studder, no more ctd's. Still having a texture problem, though, and I'm fairly convinced that it's in a script heavy load order. My problem is that I don't even know how to identify whether something is using a script, and as a result damn sure don't know how to tell whether one is "resource intensive" (if that's the right term?) Correct me if I'm wrong...it's my understanding that too many scripts that are "resource intensive" ( I just don't know if that's the right term) can end up washing textures out, and that's what I'm getting. Not everything. Not even all the time. Some things look perfect...all the time, and others are kind of 30/70 (good/bad) that they're washed out. Vehichles, for example, I have Jester's Better Destroyed Vehichles, and almost all of the time they look like melted wax. Is there possibly a tool that will identify and load just scripted mods, and will show you which ones are "heavy" or "light"? (yeah that's a dumb question, I'm a noob :-P ) I know that xEdit does this, but again, I don't know what I'm looking for. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.

 

-PS-

I've updated my load order in my previous post, in case anyone is interested in trying to help. Thanks

 

Could have probably gone through and edited them all, but anyway, I believe the term I was looking for was "script heavy" not "resource intensive". Not sure, though, so I didn't change them. =)

Edited January 4, 2017 by Malachai6669