contanier and corpses take long to open

[GeOrk]

hello alltogether,

 

i play oblivion since 2 years and rising, all time with the same char. i had installed from the beginning frostcrag, eshmes bodies, ren´s beauty pack, better gold, mark and recall, and last but not least, the incredible, wonderful, and highly recomended OOO.

later some other mods joined the fray, reznods mannequins for example, and JB´s catsuits (and weapons), and thats it on the mod front.

 

oh, and i also have BTmod installed, for a more non-consolish interface.

 

my problem exists since i play this game, chests and corpses take about 15sec to open, which i didnt mind very much till i saw yesterday on a friends oblivion that they shoud open INSTANTLY !

 

i googled some stuff, and saw thers an update for BT mod. installed that, but no avail. i started a new game (never did that since beginning, my char is ages old, and survived at least 5 OOO patches, which means something :) and voilla, they really open instantly.

 

my question:

 

is it possible to get these fast openinging stuff also on my old character?

i have installed wyrebash, for the animation fix (very slow animations which almost break the game) and for converting the games for the next OOO patch respectively.

 

on the name of the savegame you will see that i really play a long time with that char, i love him/her very much and dont want to abandon it. thats why i ask for a FIX, and not for some restart advise (which works, i tried that out today, corpses open instantly).

 

Save 2670 - Seyrilene - Lost Boy Canyon, Level 41, Playing Time 744.33.13.ess.......... about 7MB filesize.

 

yep, i told ya, long time ;)

 

so any advise for cleaning up the savegame is apreciated.

 

i de-installed btmod and re-installed it, but the opening times still are in the 10 sec range (yes, it got better, but not much... clearing out a storage room with 10 crates and chests is defo not funny)

 

so all you experts inside here, i very much apreciate your advise (besides the "start a new game, dude" thing).

 

thanks in advance

[Abramul]

Try dumping stuff from your inventory. Player.removeallitems should work as a quick check, and probably won't crash the game. Just make sure to save first.

 

If that doesn't help, I'm inclined to say try disabling everything you can, and see if the problem is still there. Probably will be, but try it anyway.

 

PURGE! PURGE! PURGE!

 

EDIT: Also, how much RAM do you have?

[GeOrk]

my RAM is 2GB under Windows XPpro, very few background programs,

 

but i guess the PURGE PURGE PURGE thing maybe the thing which should work. I´m a collectors nut, (fanatical) and i think i have transfered half of all the shinies in the caves, ruins and wherever of the whole game into my humble abode in frostcrag basement :)

 

ah well, if i´m back home i try the "remove item"- thing at least to clear my character as a test.

 

if not i have to live with it, with the re-install of BTMod it lowerd from 15 to approx 7-10 sec.

 

 

i dont know anything in this regard besides that timebomb bit which kills the animations after some playing time, but is there a possibility to "clean" a savegame... from unused references or such?

 

thx for your fast answer, much apreciated.

[gruler]

You probably had the same problem as I did. It could be due to stuck animations - a problem caused by either physics related mods or could have spontanously arose after more than hundreds of hours of gametime (not impossible as Oblivion vanilla is incredibly buggy).

 

Did your animations for gates, doors and blade traps take forever to move?

 

Try using Animation Fixer (OAF) to unstick your animations. It works.

[GeOrk]

thx for your fast answer, but as i stated in original post, i had that "stuck animation" thing already 2 times (maybe 3 times, dont remember) and it always got fixed with either wyrebash or the animation fixer program.

 

i agree with abramul that the reason is that i simply have too many stuff hoarded up, on my char and onseveral "depots".

 

besides, when you open chests or loot corpses there is no animation at all, right?

 

nah, i test removing all stuff from my player when i am at home from work, to check that. if not i will live with it.

 

any other ways to "clean up" a savegame anyone?

[Abramul]

Wrye Bash can remove references left by mods that are no longer active. However, I'm pretty sure 7 MB really big enough for bloat to cause problems.

[GeOrk]

ok, i just fired up oblivion, i´m in a cave, and currently all cleared out, some dead lich lies before me :)

 

checked it... took 10 sec

 

used the player.removeallitems

 

totally naked now :(

 

checked the lich again... instant opening ;)

 

yay

 

thanks alot for your help, i think i have to unloot my char for a bit.

 

from my side this thread is closed now.

 

guys like you make oblivion fun to play, thanks to you all.

[Abramul]

Good to know that it worked. And my previous post should've said 'isn't big enough'.

[Vagrant0]

Just so you know what is going on. When you access any container the weights of the items in those containers (your inventory and whatever you're accessing) get recalculated. This is what causes the pauses. When you have alot of items in your inventory, or are accessing a container with alot of items, it has more things to check through. In the normal (unmodded) game Bethsoft limits the extent which this effect can be noticed by making the maximum carry capacity of the player rather low. With mods (or items that affect strength) the amount that the player can carry increases, so the effect is much more noticable. It is not the individual weight of the items, but the number of items that is the cause. To reduce this in the future, you should try not to carry more than 1 extra suit of armor, and a few extra weapons when walking around, and should limit the things you pick up to things of either use or value. Multiples of items (IE 50 repair hammers) will be counted as 50 items of whatever weight, and not 1 item of the total weight.

[GeOrk]

weight?? :wallbash:

 

wahh... now it clears all up. me as collector (to say it in nice words) has still tons (literally) of stuff with me, especially all the alchemist ingredients. i also regularly had to gulp some feather potions (homebrew, special edition, give me about 250 for 830sec) because i regularly exceeded my carrying cap before the "great purge" suggested by Abramul.

 

ah well.

 

i will reduce the amount of alchemy stuff i carry with me also. but i´m down to 5 sec opening delay already , so all your advise already helped immensely. My char only has self-enchanted clothes with +15 STR (Catsuit, gloves, 2 rings, plus crueltys heart from SI) so i overextented (or exploited) this a bit i guess. shows me that "my ways" arent often the best ones, even if its handy if i have all i need with me.... if i would need it that is.

 

:thanks:

 

you guys make that game as fun as it is for me. told ya already, did i :biggrin: