LE Bringing Final Fantasy to Skyrim

[JMMcNemo]

Soon skyrimnexus will too be filled with this shitty unimmersive crap, and to find a good mod will be equal to go trough all of it and be damned. It's so sad :(

 

 

Uh, you DO know there's a tag search on Nexus, you can unflag the tags that you don't want, like "Anime", "Unrealistic", and "Humor, Joke or Just for Fun". So, just let us have OUR fun, ok?

[TheRealAedh]

Soon skyrimnexus will too be filled with this shitty unimmersive crap, and to find a good mod will be equal to go trough all of it and be damned. It's so sad :(

 

Not to be mean, but if people aren't making mods that fit what you want in Skyrim, maybe you should learn to mod and make the mods you want. Sorry some people would rather spend their creative energies making mods that THEY want.

[mousehands]

I can hear the lore-supporters screaming in the hills as I say that, but I think it could be done well if folks really want to. ^_^

 

OH MY GOD NO!

Leave Final Fantasy for Final Fantasy. There is no possible way that would fit into Nord world and fighting dragons.

Leave it alone and go play FFXII-2 plz. God no! It will be on youtube and make my eyes HURT!

God save us from Anime Fanatics

 

Wow, that happened faster than I expected.

 

 

OH MY GOD NO!

Leave Final Fantasy for Final Fantasy. There is no possible way that would fit into Nord world and fighting dragons.

Leave it alone and go play FFXII-2 plz. God no! It will be on youtube and make my eyes HURT!

God save us from Anime Fanatics

 

I think we need MORE anime mods simply because of this. That being said. I don't download anime mods, but greatly admire and appreciate the time and effort that gets put into good mod, AND I love seeing people on the internet loosing their cookies because someone likes what they don't like.

 

"WHAT YOU MEAN YOU ARE MIXING GRAPE JELLY AND KETCHUP ON YOUR FISH??!?!?!?!! STOP IT I HAVE TO WATCH YOU EAT THAT!!!!"

 

Yes, I'm with anyone who says NO to anime, manga, and any Japanification of what are western-style fantasy genre games. Of course, I wouldn't want to stop anyone doing what they want to do, but I feel I've had enough of banal Japanese rubbish. There are just too many mods I've downloaded that go under the pretence of being 'lore friendly', then I discover some outfitter selling some stupid little cutesie sailor outfits or 'minisuka police' posters stuck in a tavern. I'm sick to death of seeing the same, doughie-eyed, purple-haired cartoon characters. I'm sick-to-death of typing in a Google search term, only to find that manifested in the image results with stupid little female anime characters, and so on, and so on, the same anime, bland faces everywhere.

 

Final Fantasy is 100% concurrent with anime - it's Japanese mediocre banality supreme. I used to wonder why people had World of Warcraft characters called things like 'X Terminal', so I said to them "Why don't you go an play some sci-fi MMO, or The Matrix Online?". Of course, I never got an answer, not one that made sense, and that's a similar case with people who are strangely obsessed by this cartoon rubbish for five-year-olds. Hannah-Barbera and Warner Brothers, Disney Pixar, Dr. Suess: they did stuff about as sophisticated as anime. Imagine if Disney fanatics starting churning out 10,000,000 armour mods so you could get your Nord to dress up as Pinocchio! Just imagine - that would be ridiculous, but it's just what's happened with this Japanese crud.

 

Fans of manga/anime seem to forget one important fact - since WWII, the Japanese have struggled desperately to ape the West - in manufacturing, commerce and popular culture - from Godzilla vs the Smog Monster, through Hello Kitty and those boring giant robots, through those crud, badly animated cartoons like Pole Position and Battle of The Planets, they settled on Manga and Anime - all things that have aped Western style and pop culture - now western kids are lapping up Japanese stuff. It's a bit like a dog eating it's own vommit - actually no, it's worse: it's like a dog who has consumed faeces and vommited them up, then another dog eats that.

 

The Japanese, good people as they are, have proven that they are just about the most uncreative, unartistic and unimaginative group of people on the planet. They do not aspire to originality or progression, they aspire to conformity and uniformity. If one Japanese person gets the ball rolling, they all comply, politely, and duplicate it: over and over and over and over. Relatively speaking, there is barely any difference, stylistically, between on manga/anime artist and the next. The basic rules are thus:

 

• Make all male characters look like 12-year-old girls and identical.
  
• Make all female characters look like 3-year-old girls and identical.
  
• Limit the facial expressions of male characters to slightly annoyed, slightly amused and slightly angry.
  
• Limit the facial expressions of female characters to 'pathetically lost', 'nauseatingly happy' and 'terrified-of-being-raped-by-monster-tentacle'.
  
• Make sure your manga/amime artwork looks EXACTLY the same as all the rest - nod, smile, nod, nod again, and don't do anything different.
  

 

My advice to Japanese fans - open your eyes, sorry to sound patronising, but there's a lot more out there. More importantly - stop polluting the atmosphere of western genres with mediocre, banal, vulgar Japanese crud.

 

Rant over.

[PsykozQT]

Yes, I'm with anyone who says NO to anime, manga, and any Japanification of what are western-style fantasy genre games.

You sound envious, racist, but most of all you sound broken. What happened, some japanese kid used to beat you up at the playground? Stop obsessing about western this and western that, to me Skyrim seem very european, scandinavian in particular, so take off your hat and have a seat, cowboy.

 

Beauty will always be in the eyes of the beholder, as long as there is a demand these mods will keep coming, so stop whining and simply don't download them as so many people already suggested.

[mousehands]

Yes, I'm with anyone who says NO to anime, manga, and any Japanification of what are western-style fantasy genre games.

You sound envious, racist, but most of all you sound broken. What happened, some japanese kid used to beat you up at the playground? Stop obsessing about western this and western that, to me Skyrim seem very european, scandinavian in particular, so take off your hat and have a seat, cowboy.

 

Beauty will always be in the eyes of the beholder, as long as there is a demand these mods will keep coming, so stop whining and simply don't download them as so many people already suggested.

 

I'm not envious of it - I simply don't like it, 'racist' is a pretty meaningless epithet used to deflect criticism when the race card can be played (my criticism of the Japanese pop culture was explained for what it was rather than having anything to do with race). I am broken, yes, my mind has been shattered by the endless array of banality. No Japanese kid ever beat me - although they probably would have done if I ever argued with one because THEY ALL DO KARATE - see that was me being racist. You've made a case against western culture by referencing scandinavia 'in particular'. Scandinavia is part of the west - it is a European, western European country with a pagan/nordic heritage that the Tolkein-inspired fantasy genre is based upon. Your reference to 'cowboy' is confusing westernism with 'wild westernism' AKA Americana.

 

I'm glad people can download and enjoy any mod they wish, even manga/anime ones. 'Whining' is conducive with communicative enfeeblement and repitition - it's a typical response on forums to overbearing people like me who criticise: i.e. if you don't agree with what someone says, you accuse them of 'whining'. In your case, you haven't done your argument much good in that respect. Of what you did argue for by way of coherent expression, I actually agree with you.

[mousehands]

Scandinavia is part of the west - it is a European, western European country with a pagan/nordic heritage that the Tolkein-inspired fantasy genre is based upon.

 

Sorry folks, I read that - incorrect. Scandinavia is NOT a country - it is a region comprising of three countries, possibly five if you include Iceland and Finland. I know I'll get my legs slapped for that one.

[TheRealAedh]

Yes, I'm with anyone who says NO to anime, manga, and any Japanification of what are western-style fantasy genre games.

You sound envious, racist, but most of all you sound broken. What happened, some japanese kid used to beat you up at the playground? Stop obsessing about western this and western that, to me Skyrim seem very european, scandinavian in particular, so take off your hat and have a seat, cowboy.

 

Beauty will always be in the eyes of the beholder, as long as there is a demand these mods will keep coming, so stop whining and simply don't download them as so many people already suggested.

 

I'm not envious of it - I simply don't like it, 'racist' is a pretty meaningless epithet used to deflect criticism when the race card can be played (my criticism of the Japanese pop culture was explained for what it was rather than having anything to do with race). I am broken, yes, my mind has been shattered by the endless array of banality. No Japanese kid ever beat me - although they probably would have done if I ever argued with one because THEY ALL DO KARATE - see that was me being racist. You've made a case against western culture by referencing scandinavia 'in particular'. Scandinavia is part of the west - it is a European, western European country with a pagan/nordic heritage that the Tolkein-inspired fantasy genre is based upon. Your reference to 'cowboy' is confusing westernism with 'wild westernism' AKA Americana.

 

I'm glad people can download and enjoy any mod they wish, even manga/anime ones. 'Whining' is conducive with communicative enfeeblement and repitition - it's a typical response on forums to overbearing people like me who criticise: i.e. if you don't agree with what someone says, you accuse them of 'whining'. In your case, you haven't done your argument much good in that respect. Of what you did argue for by way of coherent expression, I actually agree with you.

 

Dude your post IS racist. You are painting an entire culture with the same brush based on the childish stuff produced primarily for children. You are ONLY looking at the surface of some anime and manga and saying ALL of Japan is vapid and devoid of creativity.

By the way, most western fantasy is trite pulp garbage that has been riding the coat tails of Tolkien for the last 40 years and DnD and other fantasty RPGs for the last 30. From this we can infer that all westerners are unimaginative, uncreative people that have been rehashing the same ideas for half a century.

[PsykozQT]

'racist' is a pretty meaningless epithet used to deflect criticism when the race card can be played

 

No Japanese kid ever beat me - although they probably would have done if I ever argued with one because THEY ALL DO KARATE - see that was me being racist.

You've done far worse than generalising stereotypes and playing the race card, allow me to refresh your memory:

Fans of manga/anime seem to forget one important fact - since WWII, the Japanese have struggled desperately to ape the West - in manufacturing, commerce and popular culture - from Godzilla vs the Smog Monster, through Hello Kitty and those boring giant robots, through those crud, badly animated cartoons like Pole Position and Battle of The Planets, they settled on Manga and Anime - all things that have aped Western style and pop culture - now western kids are lapping up Japanese stuff. It's a bit like a dog eating it's own vommit - actually no, it's worse: it's like a dog who has consumed faeces and vommited them up, then another dog eats that.

 

The Japanese, good people as they are, have proven that they are just about the most uncreative, unartistic and unimaginative group of people on the planet. They do not aspire to originality or progression, they aspire to conformity and uniformity. If one Japanese person gets the ball rolling, they all comply, politely, and duplicate it: over and over and over and over. Relatively speaking, there is barely any difference, stylistically, between on manga/anime artist and the next. The basic rules are thus:

 

My advice to Japanese fans - open your eyes, sorry to sound patronising, but there's a lot more out there. More importantly - stop polluting the atmosphere of western genres with mediocre, banal, vulgar Japanese crud.

You can try masking it with whatever flashy terms you like, but in the end, all this comes down to is racism. If I didn't know better I'd say it was taken straight out of Mein Kampf.

 

 

You've made a case against western culture by referencing scandinavia 'in particular'. Scandinavia is part of the west - it is a European, western European country with a pagan/nordic heritage that the Tolkein-inspired fantasy genre is based upon. Your reference to 'cowboy' is confusing westernism with 'wild westernism' AKA Americana.

I'm not confusing anything, there is nothing set in stone of which is the "west", but to me it will always be America and alike, take a good look at the world map. I'll have you know I'm scandinavian myself, and we are no part of your culture if that's what you're implying, I'd even go as far as to say we're more alike the japanese (at least they take their damned shoes off lmao).

 

I respect that you freely admit the vital mistake you made by refering to scandinavia as a country though (something that doesn't look very good for someone arguing a case regarding it) rather than just editing it out, although it could have just been in fear of me already having quoted it. Which I had not, as you can see I've not been here mashing my F5 all day.

 

I'm glad people can download and enjoy any mod they wish, even manga/anime ones. 'Whining' is conducive with communicative enfeeblement and repitition - it's a typical response on forums to overbearing people like me who criticise: i.e. if you don't agree with what someone says, you accuse them of 'whining'.

I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm merely stating facts. You contradict yourself when you say you're not whining then spout these atrocities about the japanese like some neo nazi, only the jews are not the target this time, "it's a japanese conspiracy since WW2 to pollute your western culture to make you into mindless slaves under the whip of Hatsune Miku", rofl. Well, maybe not whining, just pure hatred would be a more precise term.

 

I still think karate kid used to take your lunch money. And I still think you should just not download the mods and get over the fact that they are there and not everyone shares your opinion.

[JMMcNemo]

Yeah, I just wanted some cool looking mods. Seriously, it's not worth the heart attack, people.

[mousehands]

@ PsychozQT Your words:

 

You can try masking it with whatever flashy terms you like, but in the end, all this comes down to is racism. If I didn't know better I'd say it was taken straight out of Mein Kampf.

 

I'm not confusing anything, there is nothing set in stone of which is the "west", but to me it will always be America and alike, take a good look at the world map. I'll have you know I'm scandinavian myself, and we are no part of your culture if that's what you're implying, I'd even go as far as to say we're more alike the japanese (at least they take their damned shoes off lmao).

 

I respect that you freely admit the vital mistake you made by refering to scandinavia as a country though (something that doesn't look very good for someone arguing a case regarding it) rather than just editing it out, although it could have just been in fear of me already having quoted it. Which I had not, as you can see I've not been here mashing my F5 all day.

 

I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm merely stating facts. You contradict yourself when you say you're not whining then spout these atrocities about the japanese like some neo nazi, only the jews are not the target this time, "it's a japanese conspiracy since WW2 to pollute your western culture to make you into mindless slaves under the whip of Hatsune Miku", rofl. Well, maybe not whining, just pure hatred would be a more precise term.

I still think karate kid used to take your lunch money. And I still think you should just not download the mods and get over the fact that they are there and not everyone shares your opinion.

 

While I think most people would agree that the premise of this thread is whether we do or don't like anime/manga in Skyrim, all I did was argue my reason why I didn't like anime/manga. You, on the other hand, have resorted to personal insults and fabrications. You'll notice that I did not insult you personally, resort to pejorative terms about you personally, nor did I accuse you of anything by assumption and fabrication. As you've managed to do that, I am now in a position to both defend myself, and attempt to draw you back into the debate (that you have failed to adhere to).

 

Note your words above - I've highlighted the moot points:

 

'Flashy' - I think I've managed to put forward a good account of my opinion using standard English devoid of buzz words or epithets. If there's any part of my use of English you don't understand, I'm willing to clarify. I don't make any apologies for articulation and eloquence, so 'flashy' is, once more, derogatory.

 

Again, you accuse me of racism. I've made a case for why Japanese culture is uniform and comformist, while also indicating the banality and lack of originality in Japanese popular culture. By your logic, any criticism of people of one nation would infer 'racism'. This is quite ridiculous. I never even commented on the Japanese as being 'a race' - you started that accusation yourself. My criticism was purely cultural. Criticism of culture does not imply shared characteristics of a racial grouping in genetic terms. You'd do well to avoid accusing others of racism (such as myself) when they never even raise the topic. Of course, I could have stated the same thing about 'The English' or 'The Germans' or 'The Dutch', but I doubt for one minute that you would have accused me of racism on that point, although you will have to pick me up on that assumption (yes, I have made one about you). Perhaps this is because you assume I am white, and I am therefore inclined to white supremacy. Did you not imagine for one second that I could be Japanese? Either way, you have no proof, nor any proof based on my words, you have resorted to imagining what may be true, then asserting that this is so: assumption and false accusation.

 

If you've read Mein Kampf, and I would assume you have, otherwise your argument doesn't stand much ground, then you'll notice that the premise of that book was a race struggle set in the Wiemar Republic. As the consquence of Hitler's ideology, millions of people died, people of various races and cultures. In turn, the association of National Socialism is both a stain on one's character and a quite serious one. You have associated me with extremism, racial supremacy, idealism, politics I don't believe in, and a pariah figure my family fought against, and died fighting against. Did you not imagine, for one moment, that either I or people in my family could be Jewish? Furthermore, confusing what is a relatively meaningless subject such as anime in Skyrim does not need to be associated with war and genocide. I do not appreciate being associated with this.

 

You claim that you, being Scandinavian, are no part of 'my culture'. You don't know what 'my culture' is. Again, this is all a product of your imagination.

 

You then quoted thi statement (in quotes, as if I stated it): "it's a japanese conspiracy since WW2 to pollute your western culture to make you into mindless slaves under the whip of Hatsune Miku". Please note, I did not say that, nor imply that. Once more, that is the product of YOUR imagination, and it has nothing to do with my own views.

 

So while you finish on another assumption that is the product of your own imagination - that 'Karate Kid' (your words, not mine - and isn't this 'racist'?) stole my lunch money - the concluson I have come to after reading your slurs and fabrications - is that my opinion of anime/manga has affronted you so badly that what you held dear to your own heart has been profaned.

 

I don't expect a personal apology from you; it would take some courage on your part to do so, but please keep in mind that all I did was voice my opinion over why it is regrettable that western genre fantasy games have been swamped with uniform, banal Japanese pop idioms, I did not attempt to insult you personally, which is what you did to me. If your opinion is contrary to mine, why don't you make a case for the merits of Japanese pop culture rather than resorting to fabrication, defamation and insults?