False "save corruption" during gameplay

[Wackadoo]

After another couple of hours the fake corruption bug happened again. This time I was playing without Smilodon, exactly as AudieMurphy135 confirmed playing without the mod and having the bug. Again, the bug was just after a meeting with bandits and some time in combat. Maybe the combat is using more resorces, I really cannot say. At least I am able to play some hours without the annoying bug. If it was only the loading game not working, I would not be mad but when the bug happens npc menu does not work, messages does not show, followers ignore AFT commands. It sucks.

[aleksi134]

Solstheim is magical place where corruption never happens even after 3 hours of straight playing. This issue in general is basicly only happening in the area of skyrim or bruma i believe since its still kinda part of skyrim instead of its whole seperate place its weird to explain, but it seems when you are in complete different areas like falskaar or solstheim game works fine.

[Gothpunk4Christ]

Solstheim is magical place where corruption never happens even after 3 hours of straight playing. This issue in general is basicly only happening in the area of skyrim or bruma i believe since its still kinda part of skyrim instead of its whole seperate place its weird to explain, but it seems when you are in complete different areas like falskaar or solstheim game works fine.

I managed to get it to show in Forgotten Island, which is an itty bitty little landmass with hardly any quests and NPCs. AFAIK it's its own little realm. But I'll try hanging out in Solstheim for a bit.

Edited September 17, 2017 by Gothpunk4Christ

[aleksi134]

I have yet to get corrupted once in solstheim but i have had 2 CTDs and 1 freeze in about 10 hours of game time.

[ScarecroOw]

i have been testing skse64 for a while and i have to say that the corruption problem is less often, but i have noticed that its really easy to reproduce when you have a lot of weapons, armors, etc in the crafting menu, 90% of the time i craft something in the forge, the bug happens (in other crafting menus like campfire crafting is less often)

 

Here is my load order and mods

 

 

GameMode=SkyrimSE

Skyrim.esm=1
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HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
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BSAssets.esm=1
BSHeartland.esm=1
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BS_DLC_patch.esp=1
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Gray Fox Cowl.esm=1
Campfire.esm=1
Sneak Tools.esp=1
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm=1
Cutting Room Floor.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind.esp=1
CLARALUX SSE.esp=1
Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp=1
RichMerchantsSkyrim_x5.esp=1
icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp=1
SkyHUD.esp=1
XPMSSE.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
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SMIM-Bruma-Patch.esp=1
TerrainLodRedone.esp=1
WGT.esp=1
SkyrimIsWindy.esp=1
SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp=1
SkyrimIsWindy-SimplyBiggerTreesSE-Patch.esp=1
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Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp=1
Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.esp=1
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Real Roads.esp=1
HallgarthAdditionalHair.esp=1
Ragnar.esp=1
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Hirsute Beards.esp=1
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Bijin Wives.esp=0
Bijin NPCs.esp=0
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Serana Renewal.esp=1
IB - All-in-One.esp=1
TKAA.esp=1
TKAA CRF Patch.esp=1
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BooksOfSkyrim.esp=1
BlackthornManor.esp=1
CastleGonduin.esp=1
Convenient Bridges.esp=1
Dragon Bridge.esp=1
Darkwater Crossing.esp=1
JK's Riverwood.esp=1
JKs Whiterun.esp=1
JKs Whiterun exterior.esp=1
JK's SkyHaven Forge.esp=1
Helarchen Creek.esp=1
HeljarchenFarm.esp=1
Hermit Mountain Cottage.esp=1
HoldBorderBanners.esp=1
Ivarstead.esp=1
Inns and Taverns.esp=1
Kynesgrove.esp=1
Karthwasten - Let The Silver Flow.esp=1
Man Those Borders!.esp=1
morthal.esp=1
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QaxeRavenrockShop.esp=1
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Rorikstead Revised.esp=1
RiverwoodHuntingCabinSE.esp=1
RiversideLodge.esp=1
SkyHavenTempleGarden.esp=1
Skaal Village.esp=1
Shor's Stone.esp=1
Soljund's Sinkhole.esp=1
Solitude Expansion.esp=1
Solitude Exterior Addon.esp=1
Solitude Skyway SE.esp=1
SolitudeWolfTower.esp=1
ShocksSolitudePhysician.esp=1
SE - Skywalk Patch.esp=1
TacticalValtheim.esp=1
OpulentThievesGuild.esp=1
UniqueBorderGates-All.esp=1
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WZTamrielic Culture.esp=1
WindstadMine.esp=1
Whistling Mine.esp=1
Windhelm Bridge Overhaul.esp=1
Windhelm Exterior Altered.esp=1
Windhelm Lighthouse.esp=1
Weathered Road Signs.esp=1
Weathered Road Signs - CRF.esp=1
SPTKatlaSailReangleSE.esp=1
BHTNF.esp=1
hjerimtnf.esp=1
HSTNF.esp=1
ProudspiremanorTNF.esp=1
Rayeks_End_SSE_1.0.esp=1
Helgen Reborn.esp=1
MoonAndStar_MAS.esp=1
MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp=1
moonpath.esp=1
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The Haven From The Cold And Dark.esp=1
Crimson Tide - Blood.esp=1
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1
Gildergreen Regrown.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp=1
Valuables Worth Stealing.esp=1
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1
Realistic AI Detection 2 SE Lite.esp=1
Frostfall.esp=1
iNeed.esp=1
iNeed - Extended.esp=1
more idle markers.esp=1
mrbs-uniqueloot-se.esp=1
MrB's-UniqueCoins.esp=1
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GatherWildernessResources.esp=1
Equippable Tomes.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp=1
FaelCampingStuff.esp=1
Tentapalooza.esp=1
SkyrimRecycling_noExp.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1
LWPlayerHeadTracking.esp=1
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp=1
sandboxcylinderheight.esp=1
Convenient Horses.esp=1
Convenient Horses Bruma Patch.esp=1
WeightLessTrueAll.esp=1
TheCleaner.esp=1
Runandwalkpaces.esp=1
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
VioLens SE.esp=1
VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp=1
Visible Favorited Gear.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp=1
RDO - USSEP Patch.esp=0
No NPC Greetings.esp=1
skyBirds_SSE.esp=1
RR.IM.Hotfix.esp=1
ClaraluxPatchesMerged.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - Falskaar Patch.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - The Haven From The Cold And Dark Patch.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - JK's Riverwood Patch.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - Weathered Road Signs Patch.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - JK's Whiterun Patch.esp=1
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1
EWS.esp=1
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp=1
RAO - ELFX Patch.esp=1
RAO - Alternate Start Patch.esp=1
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CLARALUX SSE - USSEP.esp=0
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TheFloatingMarket.esp=1
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Brigandage.esp=1
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Dr_Bandolier.esp=1
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Imperial Champion.esp=1
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Hammerfell Armory SE.esp=1
Nightingale Forever.esp=1
GlovedThievesArmor.esp=1
Thieves Guild Special Armors.esp=1
WeaponsOf3E_SSE.esp=1
InsanitySorrow Weapons Pack.esp=1
FS_UltimateAssortment.esp=1
ISD_Dragonspear.esp=1
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GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp=1
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Undeath.esp=1
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RWT Lod Fix.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
Spears.esp=1
Animated Eating Redux.esp=1
Bashed Patch, 0.esp=0

 

 

[aleksi134]

To me it happens pretty fast if i start going through the campfire stuff mainly building fire anyway then it decides to not work since you need to access the menu multiple times. Crafting aswell if you use multiple menus fast.

[Ramagast]

I have 212 plugins, all active. I'm moving all deactivated plugins to the separate folder on another drive. I never have a corrupted save until I'll either:
- Use SkyUI (fast method)
- Turn on general subtitles.

Now, my guess is - we have corruption in some text fields. It only happens when the game is forced to show a lot of separate lines of text on screen - like when you are crafting and some subtitles from characters speaking nearby trigger an overflow of sorts. Of course, SkyUI triggers it much faster as it adds much more lines on screen. And yes, it only happens with modded game as some resources are probably occupied by mods.

This theory is easily disproved. Just play with general subtitles disabled, without SkyUI / QD Menu and get the corruption bug. I wasn't been able too do that.

[Gothpunk4Christ]

...This theory is easily disproved. Just play with general subtitles disabled, without SkyUI / QD Menu and get the corruption bug. I wasn't been able too do that.

I did this several pages back. No subtitles (general or dialogue), no skyui/QD Inv/custom favs menu (I actually fully deleted my interface folder even though it was empty after uninstalling several things, just to make sure) and still got the issue. That was a hard test to do with the stock UI but it did still happen for me. Mine may be a slightly different critter though, as I can always force the bug to appear within my crafting menus. There may be multiple triggers for this.

[Ramagast]

OK then =)

That's really weird. I can do as much crafting as I want and my menus are full of items. I'm running "Immersive Jewelry", "Immersive Armors", "Ars Metallica", "Lore Weapon Expansion", etc.
Probably some additional triggers, but how on Earth I dodge them?
Not that I like my current situation. Vanilla UI is a huge pain.
But I would recommend everyone affected to try it - may help someone else. Beats reloading the game every half an hour.

[waylander47]

I'm currently going through every merge I have, and making sure every esp was converted to form 44 pre merge. Then I was going to move all disabled esps to a seperate folder. I'm hoping that works.