FCOM Crash to Desktop after Sleeping in Alternative Start... HELP PLEA

[geoffparker88]

Hello everyone... I know that this has been a problem for many people, and that many other people have helped solve the problem, but when I follow the steps outlined for the solution, it never works for me. That's why I'm making this topic.

 

I have been following these amazing tutorials by Beamer159 on youtube:

 

Part 1: FCOM Installation Tutorial Part 1: Prerequisites and Downloads

 

Part 2: FCOM Installation Tutorial Part 2: Installing Wrye Bash, BOSS, a few mods, and Bashed Patch

 

Part 3a: FCOM Installation Tutorial Part 3a: Installing Fran, OOO, MMM, Warcry, and FCOM

 

Part 3b: FCOM Installation Tutorial Part 3b: Installing Fran, OOO, MMM, Warcry, and FCOM

 

Part 3c: FCOM Installation Tutorial Part 3c: Installing Fran, OOO, MMM, Warcry, and FCOM

 

Part 4: FCOM Installation Tutorial Part 4: Installing Additional FCOM Mods

 

Part 5: FCOM Installation Tutorial Part 5: Improving FCOM Performance

 

 

The tutorial was uploaded on July 24th, 2011. He was using Oblivion off of a disk and had downloaded all of the dlc. I just recently bought the GOTY Oblivion Delux edition (which included ALL dlc) off of Steam.

 

Okay. The problem is like this: I start a new game, I'm on the boat, I create my character, and choose all the information in the scroll on the table. I then click on the bed to go to sleep. The game then goes to the loading screen, and RIGHT as it's done with the loading screen, the screen goes black and crashes to my desktop and a message comes up saying that "Oblivion has stopped working" and that "A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available."

 

Again, I bought the game on Steam. When I try and run obse_loader.exe, I get this message:

"You are trying to use a Steam version of Oblivion. Steam users should launch the game through Steam, not by running obse_loader.exe."

 

So, I right click on Steam in my start menu and run it as administrator (which is what someone else in the comments said fixed his problem). I then procede to go to Library, choose Oblivion, and press PLAY.

 

Guess what? The game still crashes after I sleep.

 

What do I do? Do I need to share any more information, such as my BOSS reading? Because I didn't see anything wrong there.

 

I wasn't having this problem when I tested things at the end of video 4, but now that I did the things outlined in video 5, I can't get out of the boat!

 

Please. Help would be immensely appreciated.

[geoffparker88]

BTW, if it may help anyone in diagnosing the problem, the following is my BOSS Log:

 

0 of 89 plugins hidden. 0 of 89 messages hidden.

 

−Summary

 

No change in recognised plugin list since last run.

 

Your masterlist is already at the latest revision (r3689; Jan 07, 2012). No update necessary.

 

Recognized plugins: 89

Unrecognised plugins: 0

Ghosted plugins: 0

Total number of plugins: 89

Warning messages: 0

Error messages: 0

Total number of messages: 89

 

Plugins sorted by user rules are counted as recognised plugins.

 

 

 

−Script Extender And Script Extender Plugins

 

OBSE Version: 0.0.20.6

 

FastExit2.dll

 

sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll Version: 4.1.0.0

 

 

 

−Recognised And Re-ordered Plugins

 

Oblivion.esm

 

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm Version 4.5bSI

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, Delev, Invent, NpcFaces, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}

 

 

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm Version 4.5bSI

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

Cobl Main.esm Version 1.73

 

Note: Do not use Tamrielic Ingredients and COBL at the same time.

 

 

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm Version 1.34 Beta 5

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Actors.Spells, Graphics, Invent, Scripts, Stats, Relations}}

 

Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.

 

 

Mart's Monster Mod.esm Version 3.7b3p3

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Spells, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}

 

 

FCOM_Convergence.esm Version 0.9.9MB3

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Delev, Factions, Relations, Relev}}

 

 

Armamentarium.esm Version 1.35

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Relev}}

 

 

Artifacts.esm Version 1.1

 

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Version 3.2.0

 

Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here:

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood, Delev, Factions, Invent, NPC.Class, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}} and remove [C.Water] tag(s) (only exist in older version).

 

 

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

 

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

 

Note: If using the russian GOTY edition, move this plugin before 'Unoffical Oblivion Patch.esp' to allow the UOP to make its quest fixes. See infoRUS (

http://u.to/0rwuAQ

)

 

 

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Version 1.5.0

 

Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here:

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Name, C.Owner, Delev, Factions, Invent, Names, Relev, Scripts, Stats, Relations}}

 

 

USIPS Additional Changes.esp Version 1.4.4

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Relev}}

 

 

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

 

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

 

Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

 

Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

 

Requires: Shivering Isles expansion.

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.Stats}}

 

 

FCOM_Francescos.esp Version 0.9.9

 

Requires: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b.

 

 

FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp Version 0.9.9

 

Requires: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b.

 

Requires: Francesco's supplementary addon package.

 

 

FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp Version 0.9.9

 

Requires: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b.

 

 

Item interchange - Extraction.esp Version 0.76

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Filter, Deactivate}}

 

Requires: Bashed Patch.

 

 

Streamline 3.1.esp

 

DLCHorseArmor.esp

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Scripts}}

 

 

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.7

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: C.Owner}}

 

 

DLCOrrery.esp

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Actors.AIPackages}}

 

 

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.5

 

DLCVileLair.esp

 

Incompatible with: 'Kumiko Manor'

 

 

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.7

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Graphics}}

 

 

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

 

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.5

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Delev, Invent, Relev}}

 

 

DLCSpellTomes.esp

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Relev}}

 

 

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.1

 

Incompatible with: 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.

 

 

DLCThievesDen.esp

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: C.Name, C.Light, Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Stats}}

 

 

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.10

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.Stats, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Relev}}

 

 

MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp Version Beta 1

 

Cobl Glue.esp Version 1.73

 

Note: If using Cobl 1.72 and a version of FCOM below 0.9.9, also use the FCOM patch 'FCOM_Cobl.esp', or 'MMM_Cobl.esp'. If you are using UFCOM then use "OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp" instead of those patches.

 

 

Cobl Si.esp Version 1.63

 

Requires: Shivering Isles expansion.

 

 

Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp Version 1.1

 

Requires: 'FCOM_BobsArmory.esp'.

 

 

FCOM_BobsArmory.esp Version 0.9.9

 

Requires: 'Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp'.

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Relev, Delev}}

 

 

Loth's Blunt Weapons for NPCs.esp

 

Requires: 'FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp'.

 

 

FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp Version 0.9.9

 

Requires: 'Loths Blunt Weapons for NPCs.esp'.

 

 

Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Relev, Stats}}

 

Requires: either 'FCOM_WarCry.esp' or 'FCOM_WarCryNoSpawn.esp'.

 

Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.

 

 

FCOM_WarCry.esp Version 0.9.9MB5

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}

 

Note: Use either 'FCOM_WarCry.esp' or 'FCOM_WarCryNoSpawn.esp', not both.

 

 

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp Version 1.34 Beta 5

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.Spells, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Graphics, Invent, Names, R.ChangeSpells, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}

 

Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.

 

 

OMOBS_SI.esp Version 2.0

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: NoMerge, Stats}}

 

 

ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp Version 1.35

 

Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.

 

 

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp Version 1.72

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Delev, Invent}}

 

 

FCOM_Convergence.esp Version 0.9.9Mb3

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackagesForceAdd, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Spells, Actors.SpellsForceAdd, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}

 

Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.

 

 

FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp Version 0.9.9beta2

 

FCOM_RealSwords.esp Version 0.9.9

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp Version 3.7b3p3

 

Note: Use either 'More Wilderness Life' or 'More Wilderness Life No Gates' but not both.

 

 

FCOM_SaferRoads.esp Version 0.9.9

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp Version 3.7b3p3

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp Version 3.7b3p3

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp Version 3.7b3p3

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp Version 3.7b3p3

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp Version 3.7b3p3

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp Version 3.7b3p3

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Invent, Scripts, Stats}}

 

Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.

 

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp Version 3.7b3p3

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp Version 3.7b3p3f

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp Version 3.7b3p3

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Actors.AIPackages, Graphics, Scripts, Names}}

 

Incompatible with: Slof's Horses, Slof's Extra Horses if not using a Bashed Patch.

 

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp Version 3.7b3p3

 

Requires: Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul.

 

Requires: MMMforOOO or FCOM.

 

Incompatible with: MMM Gems & Gem Dust.

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Delev}}

 

 

FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp Version 0.9.9

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.Spells, Invent, Scripts}}

 

 

FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp Version 0.9.9

 

Requires: 'Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp'.

 

 

FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp Version 0.9.9

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Factions, Graphics, Invent, Relev}}

 

Requires: Shivering Isles expansion.

 

 

FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp Version 0.9.9

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: NoMerge, Relations}}

 

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp Version 3.7b3p3

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}

 

 

ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp Version 2.01

 

ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp Version 1.35

 

MMM-Cobl.esp Version 1.73

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Delev, Invent}}

 

 

Artifacts.esp Version 1.1

 

Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp Version 1.0

 

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

 

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.6

 

DLCFrostcrag.esp

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: C.Name, C.Owner, Factions}}

 

 

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.6

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Actors.ACBS, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood}} and remove [C.Climate, C.Light] tags

 

 

Knights.esp

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations}}

 

 

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.1.2

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations}}

 

 

DLC_MOBS.esp

 

Note: Don't use BattleHorn_MOBS.esp, VileLair_MOBS.esp, MehrunesRazor_MOBS.esp, Knights_MOBS.esp or ThievesDen_MOBS.esp if using this as this includes all those.

 

Note: Recommended to use version 1.02 or greater:

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=19203

 

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Deactivate, Filter, Stats, NoMerge}}

 

 

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp Version 3.7b3p3

 

Note: Incompatible with Better Cities - City Defences.

 

Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.

 

 

FCOM_Knights.esp Version 0.9.9Mb3

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Delev, Factions, Relations, Relev}}

 

Requires: DLC 'Knights.esp'.

 

 

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Relations, Invent}}

 

 

Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp Version 0.76

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Delev, Filter, IIM, Invent, Relev, Deactivate}}

 

Requires: Bashed Patch.

 

 

Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp Version 0.76

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Filter, IIM, Invent, Deactivate}}

 

Requires: Bashed Patch.

 

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp Version 3.7b3p3

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Body-Size-M, Body-Size-F, R.Relations}}

 

 

FCOM_Archery.esp Version 0.9.9

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: NoMerge, Stats}}

 

 

Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp Version 1.53

 

Bash Tag suggestion(s):

{{BASH: Filter, Deactivate}}

 

Requires: Bashed Patch.

 

 

Bashed Patch, 0.esp Version 1/7/2012 11:59:00 PM

 

 

 

Execution Complete

Edited January 9, 2012 by geoffparker88

[Nephenee13]

You have Oblivion installed in Program Files x86, don't you?

[geoffparker88]

Thanks so much for replying Nephenee13!

 

Hmmm... I'm almost positive that I don't, but let's see...

 

Local Disk (C:) > Program Files (x86) > Steam > steamapps > common > oblivion(it has a shortcut arrow... you know, the kind pointing northeast... on the folder icon) > and everything is in that folder (along with the BOSS, Data, directx, Mopy, and obmm folders)

 

Where I'm pretty dang sure I installed it (I went through a youtube tutorial on how to do this since I have Steam and all) is:

 

Local Disk (C:) > Games > Oblivion_Game (I made the folder name)(also, no shortcut arrow on this folder) > and again, everything is in that folder (along with the BOSS, Data, directx, Mopy, and obmm folders).

 

So yeah, the one in Program Files (x86) is a shortcut.

 

And also, I just wanted to reiterate that everything was working until I followed the steps in that 5th youtube video by Beamer159 titled Part 5: FCOM Installation Tutorial Part 5: Improving FCOM Performance

It's in that video that I was walked through on installing the script extender and script extender plugins, as well as shown EXACTLY how to clean the dirty mods that don't say they are dirty for a functional purpose. And I KNOW that I didn't screw up there. So my only thought is that it has to be one of the script extender plugins.

 

But I'm totally lost without step-by-step guidance. I don't know how to say, uninstall just those plugins, or how to determine which one is the culprit. Lol, sorry to say it, but I'm an ignorant helpless newb in all aspects of modding. That's why I'm asking for help, and that's why I'm so very thankful to anyone and everyone who is selfless and knowledgeable enough to give me a hand.

[Nephenee13]

Have you tried starting without using Arrival By Ship? To see if that works?

[geoffparker88]

No, and I can't anymore. You see, I decided to throw the baby out with the bath water and uninstall Oblivion. Luckily, I was smart enough to make a backup of Oblivion in case anything bad happened, since for whatever annoyingly stupid reason, when I first installed Oblivion from the Steam Library page, it only installed it at a maximum of 300KB/s, taking literally all freakin' day.

 

And anyways, I thought that the whole point of alternative start was to put you in a spot in the game to where you could quickly and easily see if your mods would work or not. So, even if I had tried starting without using arrival by ship, wouldn't it eventually crash nonetheless?

 

Regardless, the point is that I'm going to try again. But this time, I'm going to keep a backup of everything somewhere on my computer. After each video, I'm going to go into the game and see whether or not it crashes. If everything is fine, then I will overwrite the backup with the changes I had made in that video.

 

I'll let you know the outcome of what I find.