Load Order Assistance

[Niwasaki]

Hey everyone,

 

This will probably sound stupid but since I play primarily on console (XB1) mods are much more difficult for me. While i've had mods on XB1 fallout 4 since they became available, it reached the point where my load order was so out of whack (so many categories and I had no idea what I was doing) that it caused massive frame drops and constant crashes so I stopped playing. While I got a lot better with dealing with mods for Skyrim special edition, fallout 4 has many more categories of mods so I really could use some help. It's a long list and by no means do I expect anyone to completely reorder for me (it would REALLY HELP :) though) but any tips or pointers would be great for a proper fallout 4 load order.

 

My load order is (from top to bottom):

 

Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch

Videos of the wasteland part 1

Videos of the wasteland part 2

Armor and Weapon Keywords Command

Campsite (xbox) - simple wasteland

Planted Plantable

Improved BoS-Automatron Patch

Vanilla Leveled List Fixes

Nuka-Workd Bottle scenery fix

See-through scopes - nuke world ediiton

Cheat Terminal [xbox one]

Videos of the wasteland - vault etc patch

All dlc building independent patch

Sanctuary bridge fix

Craftable Military grade circuitry

More settlement plants

[XB1] looks mirror

[XB1] improved shack bridges

[XB1] Remastered waving flagpoles

Nuka Cola filling machine

Castle Wall patches

The Grinder - XBO

[XB1] Concrete Walls

Functional Vending Machines

D13 Settlement Institute Synth Detector

Improved Conveyer Snapping

Beef Jerky in Fallout

Thematic and Practical

Do it yourself - clutter for shelves and bookshelves

Time Scale and other Global Tweaks

Right Hand hunting rifle

Better workshop lights contraptions workshop add on

Improves BoS

Teleport level 4 merchants holotape

[Xbone] Minutemen Expanded Gear

Smart AI - an immersive gameplay

Get unstuck for xbox one

Additional Ballistic weave options (dlc)

[xbox] first person messages

Stats- vault girl

Glowing animals emit light - far harbor

Glowing Animals emit light

Expanding boston

Femshepping's Mega Surgery Center

Aliens of the commonwealth

Vanilla crafting Expansion

An office fit for a mayor

This is my bed!

Exotic creatures Far Harbor Cages

Time for Tea!

Busy Settlers XB1

Wintermute - Voiced Customizable Companion

Ellen, the cartographer (companion)

WRVR - new companion and radio station

Atomic Radio XB1

New Snap Order

Locksmith - Lock your doors

Lasers have recoil (XB1)

Pleasing Piper attitude adjuster

Useful settlers

Enhanced power armor durability

In sickness and health (wedding bands)

[XB1] Full Dialogue Interface

Resurrect NPC - Lazarus Holotape

Spawn items for Xbox one

Improved Minutemen Artillery

Glamorous Magnolia

[XB1] Traits and more perks

Publick Occurrences Expanded

Power Ramen

Scientifically plantable trees

Mod washer.esp

Legendary effects by bahnwolf

Enhanced blood textures basic

See-through-scopes

[XB1] Manufacturing extended

[XB1] Universal Missing Menu's

New Recipes - XB1

[Xbox} tumbajambas power armor

[XB1] Under-wear: Far Harbor ediiton

[XB1] Under-wear

[XB1] Ballistic Weave - Nuka world

Functional Nuka-Girl rocket Suit

Immersive vendors (XB1 EN)

Alert Carry lower your weapons

M2019 PKD Detective Special

Jaguar MSX 200 LMG

Laser assault mods

[XB1] Institute Electolasers

Modular Simonov PTRS-41

Defense gun

G3 Classic assault rifle

Alien Assault rifle

Catalyst Shotgun

WH77 Modular LSW by Skibadaa

IF-54 Battle Rifle Redux

IF-88 Tactical Shotgun Redux

Clean the commonwealth

Open season rewarded

Ransacked Relays and Shuddersome subways

Buffed Militia 2

Young Explorer

Companion infinite ammo and unlimited power armor

Companion perks - Far Harbor

Ponytail hairstyles

Lots more female hairstyles

XB1 Agent Outfit

Npcs are not cartoons AIO

[XB1] Insignificant object remover

Busty EV Body Replacer

 

 

 

Again any assistance is greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

 

[luicianshepard]

The thing is , your not dropping frame rates because you have " to much mods " it drops because of cell loads, LOD distance , and mods munipulating scripts and how the game works ( and when you dont know what your doing , or if you are like me you go insane and download every mod you see, you end up shuffling the games inner working and then re shuffling them again .. thats why its best to mod on a pc because you can get wyre bash , fallout 4 edit and fix these things or make bashed patches .

 

1. im sorry no one else has gotten back to you on this and i myself was getting a refresher on load order .

 

2. if you have any questions like this go to -- GOPHER -- on youtube the guy is a genius and has helped me a lot when i modded to death skyrim .

 

3. im not really sure if you are solely using xbox or pc ? , but never uninstall heavy or scripted mods once you have installed them , it basically leaves your save game like swiss cheese its best to just deactivate .

 

4. a helpful tip , if a mod seems to good to be true it is , always check the comments and bug section . if the mod comes off as so crazy and epic with all these new things but has a lot of ctd complaints stay the hell away until you know you can install it without a worry , always back up your saves , games and profiles , have a back up copy of your game ( if on pc ) it will save you soooo much time I cant tell you how many times i had to re install skyrim from steam and it sucks ..

 

5. ok so your load order , ( always keep a copy of a working load order when you get it where you like , for me if i move a mod around and it stops working i dont want to go back and forth with every mod until i find out what works again )

 

-- your load order looks ok to me but you can tweak it , if your on xbox the brass of it is that consoles suck because they are cheaply made and dumbed down . but for your sake try and order the mods in this way ,

 

 

( MASTER FILES )

*FALLOUT 4 .ESM

* DLC .ESM

*ROBOT HOME DEFENSE .ESM

*SPRING CLEANING .ESM

*ARMOR KEYWORDS .ESM

*CONCEALEDARMOR . ESM

*SETTLEMENT KEYWORDS .ESM

*HOMEMAKER.ESM

 

( NORMAL MODS ) ^^^^ this load order from here is my own personal opinion and should be tweeked to your liking and what is best for you , your system , etc .

 

^^^CHARACTER ADDONS BODY MODS ^^^

* CBBE.ESP

*UNIQUEPLAYER.ESP

*FACE PRESET .ESP

*LOOKS MENU .ESP

*HAIRSYLES .ESP

*FACIAL HAIRS.ESP

*FEMALE HAIRS.ESP

 

^^^ ENHANCEMENTS ^^^

*BD BLOOD ENHANCED . ESP

*ENHANCED LIGHTS .ESP

 

^^^STATIC ITEMS AND BUILDING MODS ^^^

 

*SANDBAGS.ESP

*DINOSHELF.ESP

*CREATIVE CLUTTER.ESP

*owr (OLD WORLD RADIO ) I HIGHLY RECOMMEND GETTING THIS I LOVE IT

*CONQUEST.ESP

*PASSIVE POWER.ESP

*ROBOT DEFENSE .ESP

*VAULT BUDGET.ESP

 

( PAY CLOSE ATTENTION IN THE ORDER YOU INSTALL MODS THAT REQUIRE OTHERS TO WORK )

 

^^^ ARMOR MODS^^^

 

*ARMORSMITH EXTENDED .ESP

*ARMORSMITH VAULT-TEC DLC .ESP

*ARMORSMITH NUKAWORLD DLC .ESP

*ARMORSMITH FARHARBOR DLC .ESP

*ARMORSMITH ALL DLC PATCH . ESP

 

( WITH MODS LIKE ARMOR SMITH IF YOU DONT HAVE THE DLC AND DOWNLOAD IT MAKE SURE YOU ALWAYS TAKE NOTE SO WHEN YOU GET THE DLC YOU CAN GO BACK AND INSTALL CORRECTLY )

 

*ARMORSMITH LORDOFWAR.ESP

*HOLSTERED WEAPONS.ESP

*CRAFTABLE ARMOR SIZES.ESP

*V'S ITEM SORTING.ESP

 

^^^ COMPANION EDITS ^^^

 

*SEXY CURIE .ESP

*ALTERNATE MACCREADY.ESP -- (HIGHLY RECOMEND HE LOOKS a lot BETTER AND IT SUITS HOW HE ACTS AND HIS VOICE ) --

 

*GHASTLY HANCOCK .ESP

*EDIT HANCOCK.ESP

*SEXY CAIT.ESP

 

^^^PERKS UTILITIES AND TWEEKS ^^^

 

*START ME UP.ESP --(HIGHLY RECOMENDED FOR ALT. START AND ROLE PLAYING )

*SC_EXPANDED SCRAP LIST.ESP

*SPRINGCLEANINGCOMPATIBILITYPATCH.ESP

*QUICKSAVE.ESP (FOR SURVIVAL MODE)

*INSIGNIFICANT OBJECT REMOVER.ESP (RAISES FPS BY REMOVING GARBAGE THAT YOU CANT SEE)

 

---- THE NEXT SET OF MODS ARE BUILDING MODS THAT WILL NOT WORK UNLESS PUT IN THIS SPECIFIC ORDER ON YOUR LOAD LIST , THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHEN YOU DOWNLOAD COMPLICATED MODS THAT USE PATCHES AT ONE POINT AND THEN DOWNLOADING OTHER MODS THAT EDIT THE SAME LIST AS ANOTHER MOD ----

 

* RAIDER THEM WORKSHOP .ESP

* NPC SPAWNER .ESP

*HOMEMAKER STREET LIGHTS .ESP === HOMEMAKER PATCH

*HOMEMAKER UNLOCK INSTITUTE ITEMS.ESP ====PATCH

*OCDDECORATOR.ESP

*OCDDISPENSER.ESP

*OCDDECORATER DLC .ESP

*OCD FAR HARBORDLC.ESP

 

=== MOD ENDING IN SKE IS A PATCH FOR SETTLEMENT KEYWORDS EXTENDED , NEVER DOWNLOAD MORE THAN ONE PATCH CHOOSE HOMEMAKER OR SKE ====

 

*HOMEMAKER GREENHOUSE AND BUNKER DISABLER SKE .ESP ==PATCH FROM HOMEMAKER TO WORK WITH SETTLEMENT KEYWORDS EXTENDED ==

*HOMEMAKER GREENHOUSE DISABLER SKE.ESP

*HOMEMAKER UNLOCK INSTITUTE OBJECTS SKE .ESP

* HOMEMAKER STREETLIGHTS PASSIVE POWER SKE .ESP

 

this is my load order i hope it paints a picture for you , sorry if this turns out to be a long list i dont know how to spoiler collapse this ... any questions ask around ask me or youtube my main man gopher . good luck

 

FYI - i have 166 mods installed , 95 active plug ins , 104 active mods and my FPS is a steady 55 -60

Edited February 10, 2017 by luicianshepard

[damanding]

@Niwasaki

You have a lot of weapon mods. Those frequently conflict with one another if they add weapons to the leveled lists to make them appear in either vendor's inventories or on NPCs unless they used scripted injection to the leveled lists and not all do. I highly recommend looking for those mods on the Nexus site and reading their descriptions, stickies, bug reports here. Nexus doesn't limit mod authors to ridiculously small character limits for mod descriptions. Plus many of the mod authors that originated here on Nexus have more modding experience than those who got their start modding when Betheda.net started hosting mods and are therefore aware of things like leveled list conflicts (and thus at least mention the potential for conflicts like that).

 

I noticed you have Universal Missing Menus. I couldn't find that on Bethesda.net, but if it works the same as the Universal Menu Fixer on Nexus, then you don't want it running constantly. You install it only long enough to fix the menus then uninstall it. The one on Nexus will prevent mods which script inject menus from injecting their menus as long as that mod is running.