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Skyrim CTD afer quickloading twice


TheLastMelody

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Skyrim crashes to desktop whenever I quickload the same quicksave twice. After having restarted the game, I can load the quicksave from the main menu and then quickload twice before it crashes again. I've tried this in wide open spaces (outside Whiterun) and small enclosed spaces (Riverwood houses).

 

The game version should be the latest one (1.9.32 or something like that)

SKSE Version should also be the latest one (1.7.3)

I use Mod Organizer, and through it, Wrye Bash and LOOT.

Load order sorted in LOOT, then Wrye Bash to create bashed patch.

 

Loadorder.txt:

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
EFFCore.esm
TERAArmors.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
ENS-CreativeWeaponUse.esp
Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
Character Creation Overhaul.esp
CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
lilithssickle.esp
LostGrimoire.esp
lilithssickle_PerMa_Patch.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
SkyUI.esp
3DNPC.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp
WARZONES - DLC - Assault Attack.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
RelicsofHyruleDragonborn.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
Improved Artifacts - Complete Collection.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
WAF_CCF_SIC Patch.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
Cloaks.esp
Tera Armor Level List.esp
StavesofSkyrim.esp
RelicsofHyrule_PerkusMaximusPatch.esp
NorthernCardinal.esp
SofiaFollower.esp
CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp
Recorder Follower Base.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
SpellResearch.esp
zzzSXP.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
Dr_BandolierDG.esp
BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp
BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
UIExtensions.esp
ElvenSisters.esp
BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliersDawnguard.esp
EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
LearnAlchemyFromRecipes.esp
HarvestOverhaul.esp
HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp
Purewaters.esp
Elemental_Dragons.esp
3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp
PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
Pre PaMa WAFR CCF CCOR Wintermyst Patch.esp
PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
TradeRoutes.esp
PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp
PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp
TradeRoutes-HelgenReborn-Patch.esp
Rupee2.esp
3DNPC - Winterhold Mods Patch.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp
Apocalypse - Waterstride Spell Addon.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
3DNPC Followers Perk Addon.esp
3DNPC Followers Perk Addon - PerMa Edition.esp
3DNPC_Dragonborn.esp
3DNPCEFF.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

 

Modlist.txt:

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
+Stable uGridsToLoad
+Safety Load
+3DNPC
+Elemental Dragons
+Creative Weapon Use
+Pure Waters
+Pirates of Skyrim
+Learn Alchemy From Recipes
+Harvest Overhaul
+Trade Routes
+Recorder - Standalone Fully Voiced Follower
+Vilja in Skyrim
+TERA Armors Collection
+Extensible Follower Framework
+Bandolier - Dawnguard
+Bandolier for NPCs
+Bandolier - Bags and Pouches
+Elven Sisters
+Sofia - The Funny Fully Voiced Follower
+Alternate Start - Live Another Life
+Character Creation Overhaul
+Classic Zelda music for Skyrim
+WARZONES - Assault Attack
+WARZONES - Civil Unrest 2015
+Helgen Reborn
+Immersive College of Winterhold
+Staves of Skyrim
+Spell Research
+Lost Grimoire of Skyrim
+Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim
+Winter Is Coming - Cloaks
+Realistic Ragdolls and Force
+Enhanced Blood Textures
+Cloaks of Skyrim
+Forgotten Magic Redone
+Skyrim Immersive Creatures - Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade Patch
+Liliths Sickle - Custom Scythe
+Skyrim -Community- Uncapper
+Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim
+Immersive Armors
+Improved Artifacts Collection
+PerMa Compatibility and PaMa Patches
+Skyrim Immersive Creatures
+Immersive Weapons
+Perkus Maximus - Maximum Perk Overhaul
+Relics of Hyrule
+Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch
+Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade
+Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade
+Clothing and Clutter Fixes
+SXP (Redone)
+SkyUI
*Unmanaged: Dawnguard
*Unmanaged: Dragonborn
*Unmanaged: HearthFires
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03
*Unmanaged: Rupee2

 

 

 

Plugins.txt (the file with the .esp list):

 

 

Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
EFFCore.esm
TERAArmors.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
ENS-CreativeWeaponUse.esp
Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
Character Creation Overhaul.esp
CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
lilithssickle.esp
LostGrimoire.esp
lilithssickle_PerMa_Patch.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
SkyUI.esp
3DNPC.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp
WARZONES - DLC - Assault Attack.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
RelicsofHyruleDragonborn.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
Improved Artifacts - Complete Collection.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
WAF_CCF_SIC Patch.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
Cloaks.esp
Tera Armor Level List.esp
StavesofSkyrim.esp
RelicsofHyrule_PerkusMaximusPatch.esp
NorthernCardinal.esp
SofiaFollower.esp
CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp
Recorder Follower Base.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
SpellResearch.esp
zzzSXP.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
Dr_BandolierDG.esp
BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp
BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
UIExtensions.esp
ElvenSisters.esp
BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliersDawnguard.esp
EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
LearnAlchemyFromRecipes.esp
HarvestOverhaul.esp
HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp
Purewaters.esp
Elemental_Dragons.esp
3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp
PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
Pre PaMa WAFR CCF CCOR Wintermyst Patch.esp
PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
TradeRoutes.esp
PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp
PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp
TradeRoutes-HelgenReborn-Patch.esp
Rupee2.esp
3DNPC - Winterhold Mods Patch.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp
Apocalypse - Waterstride Spell Addon.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
3DNPC Followers Perk Addon.esp
3DNPC Followers Perk Addon - PerMa Edition.esp
3DNPC_Dragonborn.esp
3DNPCEFF.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

 

Have not cleaned anything with TES5EDIT, mostly cause there was so few items that had dirty edits, and that I don't know how (could google a guide, I guess?).

But I did check the savefile with SaveTool, to check for rouge scripts, but it found none.

 

My computer is relatively new, so the hardware should not be the problem.
CPU: AMD Athlon X4 880K Quad Core @ 4.0GHz (No overclocking)

GPU: AMD Radeon RX 460 4GB

RAM: 16GB DDR3
HDD: 164GB Free space on the game's partition

Not a lapop.

 

Any help is appreciated. And if there is any information lacking, please do tell me.

 

 

EDIT:
Also tried with StableuGrids and Safety Load, none helped alleviate this issue.

Am also using ENB, and have tried changing most settings that are relatively noob-friendly(forceborderless, expandsystemX64, etc)

 

EDIT2:
It has seemingly fixed itself, and I think I know how.
When creating bashed patch, it asked me to disable some esps before creating the patch, and I accepted, of course. Now, after making the patch, I left those esps disabled, thinking it was supposed to be that way. But then, after something(don't know what or how) unticked all the tickable files in the plugins list, and I felt to lazy to rebuild patch to make the correct files be disabled, I decided to run the game anyways, and now, it no longer seems to crash when quickloading. So, bottom line is; the things Wrye Bash wanted me to disable prior to making the patch needed to be renabled after patch was made. Or, at least that's how I think it is.

TLDR; Retard is as retard does(I think?)...

Edited by TheLastMelody
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try starting a new game, once it loads and you can open the menu, try loading your save. also get CASM (I think thats the name of the Skyrim save manager mod) and then disable the vanilla save methods.

 

and something else that most don't realize, keep screenshots and save files to a minimum. if you don't want to delete them just move them to a separate folder so you can move them back if you want to play them.

 

I know most people say change this, and do that to your INI's but in my case, many of those changes ended up making the game even more unstable or made no noticeable difference. so always keep a clean copy of your INI's.

Edited by JoKelly
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