Archive Invalidation not functioning, Lutana NVSE not loading, white filter over interior exteriors.

[TheDarkPR101]

I am currently on Windows 10 and am having weapons, floor and male chest texture not displaying properly. I assume this is due to archive invalidation. I am using Mod Organizer and have automatic archive invalidation on and it doesn't seem to be working.

 

Lutana's extension I don't know why it isn't loading as I installed it manually into the plugins folder but it seems to just not load. I have both MO and FNV folder structures writable and running as admin doesn't change anything.

 

The White filter might have something to do with Realistic Wasteland Lighting but the passage of time seemed to fix it and I don't know if it'll happen again.

 

Here is an album showing the things that I see: http://imgur.com/a/Ytqqi

 

Here is my Load Order, straight from MO:

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

CaravanPack.esm

YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

Sortomatic.esm

Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm

ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm

Tales from the Burning Sands.esm

ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm

domecity.esm

The New Bison Steve Hotel.esm

More Perks.esm

Afterschool Special.esm

SomeguySeries.esm

JIP Selective-Fire.esm

oHUD.esm

LazarusProject.esm

AnimationProject.esm

D.E.I.M.O.S..esm

Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm

GRARG.esm

YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

FPSWeaponWheel.esp

JIP Realistic Weapon Overheating.esp

JIP Companions Command & Control.esp

JIP Improved Recipe Menu.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

FlashlightNVSE.esp

CASM with MCM.esp

Centered 3rd Person Camera.esp

Sortomatic_for_House_of_the_Chef.esp

Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp

Vurt's WFO.esp

Cut Content Merged.esp

YUP - Gameplay Tweaks.esp

MiscItemIconsNV.esp

NVCEMerged.esp

Tweaks and Fixes.esp

JSawyer Ultimate.esp

Water Overhaul.esp

Water Overhaul - JSawyer Ultimate.esp

VATS Alternative - Bullet Time.esp

Improved Sound FX Merged.esp

Nights are Darker - Ultimate Edition.esp

ILO - D.E.I.M.O.S.esp

Small Gameplay Mods.esp

FNV Realistic Wasteland Lighting - Enhanced.esp

OWB-Path Lights - Darker Nights.esp

OWB-Path Lights.esp

TrooperOverhaul-Dragbody.esp

ADAM Complete.esp

ADAM - MERGE.esp

Convenient Fast Travel Markers.esp

Distributed Necklaces and Chains.esp

Quest Item Hider.esp

1nivVSLArmors.esp

Laurens_Bathroom_poetry.esp

NewVegasBounties.esp

NewVegasBountiesII.esp

Simple Reputation and Disguises.esp

GoodspringMotel.esp

Saints & Sinners.esp

ILO - New Vegas Bounties II.esp

ILO - New Vegas Bounties.esp

ILO - YUP Patch.esp

Reload Sounds.esp

RefinedCasinoPeople&Suits.esp

NVDLC04 Allegiance w Duster.esp

OldCourierDuster_Replacer.esp

Ranger Armor Fixes.esp

OldWorldBlues - Keep Big MT Active.esp

EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp

Gun Runners Arsenal Merged.esp

BLEEDNV - Final.esp

YUP + BLEED.esp

pipboy2500_edisleado.esp

PipBoyCounters.esp

Real Recoil.esp

GRA-WRP-Patch-Two_Unofficial.esp

FNV TTW RWLE - NVBII Patch.esp

I don't know what to do and any help is much obliged.

[dubiousintent]

If MO now has "automatic ArchiveInvalidation" (last I knew it didn't but I don't use it myself), but it doesn't seem to be working, then try toggling it off and then back on. If that clears it up, report the issue to MO support and manually toggle AI every time you add or remove mods with texture/mesh changes.

 

Don't use TTW mods or patches if you don't have TTW loaded. They are not interchangeable with the vanilla FNV game.

 

Lutana's NVSE extension requires NVSE. Do you have that installed? If so, see "Checklist item #4" in the "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide on enabling the "game error log". Then try again and check out that log for errors.

 

Run through that checklist to help narrow down possible sources of your problem. The rest of that article covers common problems and solutions. (For instance: whenever I see neatly grouped plugins alphabetical by name I wonder if the "load order" has been sorted.)

 

-Dubious-

Edited January 13, 2017 by dubiousintent

[TheDarkPR101]

If MO now has "automatic ArchiveInvalidation" (last I knew it didn't but I don't use it myself), but it doesn't seem to be working, then try toggling it off and then back on. If that clears it up, report the issue to MO support and manually toggle AI every time you add or remove mods with texture/mesh changes.

 

Don't use TTW mods or patches if you don't have TTW loaded. They are not interchangeable with the vanilla FNV game.

 

Lutana's NVSE extension requires NVSE. Do you have that installed? If so, see "Checklist item #4" in the "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide on enabling the "game error log". Then try again and check out that log for errors.

 

Run through that checklist to help narrow down possible sources of your problem. The rest of that article covers common problems and solutions. (For instance: whenever I see neatly grouped plugins alphabetical by name I wonder if the "load order" has been sorted.)

 

-Dubious-

Did everything and nothing has changed, however I fixed the wrong compatibility patch so sorry about that oversight. As for my Load Order I have runned through it multiple times with LOOT and MO's sorting. I can't find my problems on the list you sent, however the text log is giving out a bunch of compilation errors and I don't know how those can be fixed.

 

Do you want to see the error log and if so where can I dump it?

Edited January 13, 2017 by TheDarkPR101

[dubiousintent]

Now that you have logging enabled, you need to check the following logs (in the game root folder) for your particular problem with Lutana's extension:

falloutnv_error.log (for general errors)

nvse.log (for "checking plugin" line errors, to confirm lutana plugin is loading)

lutana_nvse.log (for any errors)

 

Script compilation errors are something for the mod author to fix, unless you are able and want to try to produce a "patch file" for each mod that is producing the errors. And those are usually "warnings" that something isn't going to work correctly but won't usually cause a CTD. What you need to look for are going to be lines that begin with "Error: " (with or without the colon). IF the message is along the lines of "could not find file", that will cause problems with the mod but is not likely to produce a CTD either.

 

Anything else, copy from the line above to the line below the error line, and put them together with the very top of the log where it identifies version and system data, and paste here in "spoiler tags". (Use the "Special BBCode" button in the Forum "Reply" menu bar; the third icon from the left in the top row, next to and left of the "Font" pick-list field.) Use separate "spoiler tags" for each log file. Otherwise the logs are likely to be too large to post. Note that the information helping to identify which plugin is producing that error is likely to be many lines above that error line. If it is not obvious from the error line, then all I will be able to tell you is which lines are likely to be causing a problem but not which plugin has the problem. So, sooner or later you will have to work out the plugin in question for yourself. If you can identify the plugin and put that data in with the error message, it will speed things along.

 

-Dubious- [Edit: expanded last paragraph instructions.]

Edited January 13, 2017 by dubiousintent

[rickerhk]

I had a heck of a time getting Invalidation to work with MO and FNV. Finally found some post on TTW forums plus other stuff I did and now it works.

1. In MO Settings, 'Workarounds' uncheck 'Force-enable game files'

2. Turn Auto invalidation in the profile OFF

3. Get a copy of Fallout - AI!.bsa (From FOMM or NMM) and copy it to your data directory

4. Go to the 'Archives' tab in the right MO window. Make sure MO is managing BSA files. Move the AI!.bas to the top.

Other things I did-probably redundant:

Change the fallout ini and pref files load archive line:

SArchiveList=Fallout - AI!.bsa, Fallout - Misc.bsa, Fallout - Textures.bsa, Fallout - Textures2.bsa, Fallout - Meshes.bsa, Fallout - Voices1.bsa, Fallout - Sound.bsa

Something I never tried before but looks like it works also:

1. In MO Settings, 'Workarounds' uncheck 'Force-enable game files'

2. Turn Auto invalidation in the profile ON

3. Go to the 'Archives' tab in the right MO window. Make sure MO is managing BSA files. Move the Fallout - Invalidation.bsa to the top of the archive list.

[TheDarkPR101]

 

I had a heck of a time getting Invalidation to work with MO and FNV. Finally found some post on TTW forums plus other stuff I did and now it works.

 

 

I did everything you said and It didn't work so I removed all texture mods to see if the problem persisted and it did. I think the issue might be with my gun meshes. Specifically the ones that my character uses as the texture weirdness doesn't happen to NPCs.

 

Now that you have logging enabled, you need to check the following logs (in the game root folder) for your particular problem with Lutana's extension:

falloutnv_error.log (for general errors)

nvse.log (for "checking plugin" line errors, to confirm lutana plugin is loading)

lutana_nvse.log (for any errors)

Ok here's what I beleive to be the full extent of the error. It seems that I might be having problems with My 1st Person reanimation. I it down so that the repetition of the error could be seen. As for NVSE and Lutana it seems to be loading just fine and it leads me to belive that it might be a problem with the Mod itself, I believe this is the case due to RealRecoils.esp working when it requires NVSE, JIP and Lutana. I'll check the Lazarus Project comments and see if anyone else has the same issue.

 

 

----=============TARGET RESET===============----

DEFAULT: Radio station exterior position ref '' (4104950A) is not placed in an exterior.

DEFAULT: Radio station exterior position ref '' (410B781A) is not placed in an exterior.

... This repeats multiple linesdown...

DEFAULT: Radio station exterior position ref '' (410B781A) is not placed in an exterior.

DEFAULT: Radio station exterior position ref '' (410AB86F) is not placed in an exterior.

DEFAULT: Radio station exterior position ref '' (410AB891) is not placed in an exterior.

DEFAULT: Radio station exterior position ref '' (410AB881) is not placed in an exterior.

DEFAULT: Radio station exterior position ref '' (410AB872) is not placed in an exterior.

DEFAULT: Radio station exterior position ref '' (41049534) is not placed in an exterior.

DEFAULT: Radio station exterior position ref '' (410B7823) is not placed in an exterior.

DEFAULT: Radio station exterior position ref '' (410AA9FB) is not placed in an exterior.

DEFAULT: Radio station exterior position ref '' (410AA9F5) is not placed in an exterior.

DEFAULT: Radio station exterior position ref '' (410AA706) is not placed in an exterior.

DEFAULT: Radio station exterior position ref '' (410B782E) is not placed in an exterior.

DEFAULT: Radio station exterior position ref '' (0E0567DE) is not placed in an exterior.

ANIMATION: Morph Error - Controller count not the same.

 

'Characters\_1stPerson\Locomotion\1hpfastforward.kf' has 6 controllers and

 

'Characters\_1stPerson\Locomotion\1hpfastright.kf' has 5 on 'Scene Root'.

 

[dubiousintent]

Suspect you are on the right track now. If Lutana and NVSE are loading then the issue is indeed going to be with the mod or a conflict between mods. Try loading suspect mods together in FNVEdit and see which records report conflicts.

 

Those "radio station" errors are in mine as well and don't cause any particular problems ... certainly nothing like yours.

 

-Dubious-