All meshes are not created equal.

[jezamarie]

I have this issue, right? I LOVE this mod here http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=4708. The Triss armor ala The Witcher 2. But when I install the mod I get a mesh covered in black. Not a dark black texture, completely void of color information black. *NOTE* I have plenty of other mods that I am using quite successfully. Also note that I am quite computer savvy so I have looked and looked and looked for solutions to this problem. That said, I will elaborate.

 

Before anyone suggests this, yes I have checked, double checked and triple checked and the textures are fine. They are in the right file structure and they even display properly, well, you know, not 'properly' but they display just fine on other meshes in game when I go in and tinker with Nifskope. That reminds me, in Nifskope, the textures display on the mod's mesh just fine, just not in game. I also pointed the meshes to other textures to see if it was ANYTHING to do with the textures or normals of the mod. It isn't. Again, in Nifskope the odd textures and normals displayed fine, but not in game.

 

SO, it IS the meshes. There is something weird about the meshes that is causing this issue in game. That said, I know they are imported and modified for use in Skyrim from the Witcher 2. I also know that my rig (however poorly) runs both games no problem. Though, also, I know my rig suuuuuuucks. I'm embarrassed to post specs, but I am going to because I also know that people are downloading this mod and using it with great joy so I'm down to wondering if it really is because my rig is terrible. But that really doesn't make sense because all these other mods out there work absolutely just fine on my machine.

 

So what I'm hoping for is someone who actually knows a lot about modeling and meshes and .nifs and Nifskope, will look at the meshes and compare them with other in game meshes to see if there are any issues that might cause this that could be remedied.

 

The only issue I could see, in my complete lack experience with modeling and the like, was that this mesh has 7250 vertices and 11255 triangles which is nearly triple the number of both from this mod http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2738.

 

BUUUUUUT, that shouldn't make any difference because the gloves mesh has virtually the same number of vertices as the Cleric armor mod and still doesn't display a texture, so again, a dead end.

 

System specs (lol)

Intel E2140 Core 2 Duo 1.6GHz

2 GB DDR2 533MHz RAM

NVIDIA GeForce 7600GS 512MB

[DexLuther3]

I don't want to hijack your thread so I wont, but I can't even get the mod to appear at all in my game. :'(

 

Are you running any other mods? The only thing I can think of is maybe some other mod is loading in and screwing with this one. Have you tried turning them all off except this one?

[Stalkholm]

Unless I'm mistaken the mod you're using has to be used in conjunction with the original Triss Outfitt for TES V Skyrim ( http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5135 ). I didn't see whether or not you had mentioned in your initial post if you were running the two concurrently or just the retextured version. Additionally you might want to check the load order of your mods, as Fraper's original mod has to be loaded before the retex. I believe the original is called Raven Armor and the retex is just called Triss Retextured.

 

I hope that helps! :D

[DexLuther3]

Unless I'm mistaken the mod you're using has to be used in conjunction with the original Triss Outfitt for TES V Skyrim ( http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5135 ). I didn't see whether or not you had mentioned in your initial post if you were running the two concurrently or just the retextured version.

 

This mod is supposed to be a standalone version. I wrote the mod author in an effort to get my problem fixed, and they confirmed that the original isn't needed. Still worth a try if only for the original mod's meshes.

Edited January 12, 2012 by DexLuther3

[Stalkholm]

Oh! Well I feel foolish now, I'm been running them together for some time. :) It may also be a conflict with CBBE or Cherry's version if you're running them or not running them, but that's never proven to be a problem with any other armors in the past. =/ Best of luck man, let me know if it works!

[jezamarie]

I am just coming off a test run through a completely clean install and new save game with only the Triss armor mod installed and no luck. Same issue. There is something about those meshes that doesn't like my system. I just wish I was all sorts of badass with modeling and Nifskope and such so I could dig through them to see what's up. But, I barely have time to play the game let alone learn all about modeling :/ Anyways, after tax return and financial aid come through I'm building an entirely new and updated system. Like, Phenom II X4 and 4GB 1033MHz and Like either a 6870 ATI or a 560 GTX. So, that should solve it. I just didn't wanna have to wait for five weeks to be able to use this mod lol.

[Stalkholm]

I am just coming off a test run through a completely clean install and new save game with only the Triss armor mod installed and no luck. Same issue. There is something about those meshes that doesn't like my system. I just wish I was all sorts of badass with modeling and Nifskope and such so I could dig through them to see what's up. But, I barely have time to play the game let alone learn all about modeling :/ Anyways, after tax return and financial aid come through I'm building an entirely new and updated system. Like, Phenom II X4 and 4GB 1033MHz and Like either a 6870 ATI or a 560 GTX. So, that should solve it. I just didn't wanna have to wait for five weeks to be able to use this mod lol.

 

I don't know what the problem could be then, as I seem to be running it fine. =/ Just for shits n' giggles let me list what I've got installed and the order in which it appears in my NMM load order directory (Yay for redundancy yay!)

 

Triss Outfitt For TES V Skyrim by Fraper ( http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5135 ) - Installed First

Triss Armor Retextured by Psyke23, Triss - Deep Black v_1_3 ( http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=4708 ) - Installed Second

Triss Armor Retextured by Psyke23, Plugin Update v_1_3_a ( http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=4708 ) - Installed Third

Triss Armor Retextured by Psyke23, Dark Brotherhood ( http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=4708 ) - Installed Fourth

 

At the moment I have Triss Standalone.esp loading first and Raven Set v 1.3.esp not loading at all.... have you got Fraper's mod installed? To quote from Psyke's page:

 

"Question: I don't want a standalone, can I use this armor as a replacer for, let's say the Thieves Guild armor so that every member wears it?

 

Sure thing, all you need to do is download Triss Outfit for TES V Skyrim by Fraper, install that and in the meshes folder rename the files to the ones you want to replace. After that, just download one of my recolors if you want to, put it in the right folder and that's it. I won't go in-depth here, as there are tons of good guides on google for that."

 

This implies that Fraper's mod needs to be installed.

 

I think I'm getting sleepy, as I'm rambling. Give it a shot, see if it works, tell me if you already tried it and I'm just making a fool of myself. :P Worst case scenario new hardware will fix it. /nod

[MShoap13]

You're replacer instructions are missing a couple of key details.

 

You also need to move the replacer meshes to the appropriate folder that Skyrim expects that mesh to be in. For example, if you wanted to replace Daedric armor you'd need to rename the meshes to the names of the Daedric armor meshes (daedriccuirass_0 and daedriccuirass_1) and then place them in the folder Skyrim looks for those meshes in. You can find this location by using a BSA Browser of your choice and for this specific instance it would be: \Data\meshes\armor\daedric\.

 

You don't need to do anything as far as renaming/moving the textures goes as texture information is stored in the mesh itself and unless you go into your renamed meshes and point them to a new location they'll automatically look for them in the file they're placed in when installing the mod.

 

Edit: Also, solid black objects can be caused by improperly saved textures (not the case as plenty of other people are running this mod with no problems), missing normal maps (These tell the game how light affects the objects surface and without a map, the object would appear to absorb all light, should end with _n.dds), or (for Skyrim at least) your game is running out of RAM.

 

Double check that the mod you have came with a normal map. The uploader may have forgotten to include it and this would explain why Stalkholm's mod works and yours doesn't as he installed his on top of the original. If you do have a whateverthetextureiscalled_n.dds located in the same folder as the other textures for the armor then that only leaves your system. Specifically your slow dual core (the game claims it requires a 2.0GHz Dual core or faster to run so I'm surprised you can play at all) and the fact you only have 2GB of RAM. You can try to follow the instructions found in this thread to see if you can free up some more memory for the game but it may or may not help you.

Edited January 12, 2012 by MShoap13

[Stalkholm]

Just copying from the mod's page, but there ya' go, try that out instead! :D

[DexLuther3]

This implies that Fraper's mod needs to be installed

 

It doesn't.

 

Hi, I'm trying to install your Triss armor mod, but can't seem to get it to appear in game. Do I have to install the original mod on which you based yours?

Nope. Install 1.3 first, then just download 1.3a manually and put the .esp in your ...\Skyrim\Data folder where all the other .esp files are.

 

I've finally got it working, and can confirm the mod works without the original. A hardware issue would be a likely suspect.