Weird FPS drop indoors with a weird temporary fix never seen before.

[GiovannaPaciullo]

Hey guys, I'm new here and I was hoping someone would give me a light about this "bug" I have. My Skyrim plays fine everywhere both interiors and exteriors with 40-60 FPS BUT sometimes, almost like random, when I enter a interior cell (e.g. Ragged Flagon, Dawnstar Sanctuary etc) my FPS simply will drop to 25 FPS when I'm looking at certain specific locations.

The only "fix" is restarting Skyrim, if I restart the game the lag will go away, even if I load a save exacly where I was getting the FPS drop.

I am sure it is not an overheating problem because sometimes it happens after only one minute of play, and other times it doesnt happen after hours of intense playing and I don't have to restart my PC to "fix" it.

I have some mods installed (obviously lol) and I was thinking it was a mod "overload" problem, but after disabling every texture mod the problem won't go away.

I already tried a fresh install of Skyrim a fresh install of all mods but it persists, so I'm guessing it is a conflict with mods?

Can someone help me please? If you don't have any idea about it lets talk and see if we can think about something.

Here's my mod list, I use LOOT to properly assign the load order.

A Quality World Map - Vivid with Stone Roads

aMidian Born Bonemold Hotfix-24909

aMidian Born Staff of Magnus Hotfix

aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Armors

aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Creatures

aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Dragonborn DLC

aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Unique Items

aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Weapons

ApachiiSkyHair_v_1_6_Full-2014-1-6-Full

Ars Metallica - Smithing Enhanced

Better Dialogue Controls

Book Covers Skyrim SE

Chillrend Sound Bug Fix and Removal

Climates Of Tamriel-SE

Cutting Room Floor

Diverse Dragons Collection SE

Don't Show Headgears

FNIS Behavior SE V7_0 Beta

Footprints 1.5.3

Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul

KS Hairdos Lite SE

Lanterns of Skyrim SE

LeanWolf's Better-Shaped Weapons

Left Hand Rings Modified SE

Map Markers Complete

More Tavern Idles

Nordic Snow

NSM - FULL PACK v.5.3.0 - For Skyrim Special Edition

NSM - SMIM Patch

Perk Point Book

Real Mountains Rebuilt 2k

Realistic Ragdolls and Force

Realistic Water Two

Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul

Rich Skyrim Merchants x5

RSSE Children Overhaul

Ruins Clutter Improved

Run and Walk at your Pace

RUSTIC ANIMATED POTIONS and POISONS 2K

RUSTIC CLOTHING - Special Edition

RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Special Edition - 2K Unsorted

RUSTIC WINDOWS - Special Edition - 2K

skyBirds SSE Edition

SkyHUD

SkyHUD Presets

Skyrim Flora Overhaul v2.7a

Static Mesh Improvement Mod

Stunning Statues of Skyrim

Superior Lore-Friendly Hair HD 2K

Total Character Makeover 1.2

True Brows Special Edition 1.1

True Eyes SE 2.0

TTRSO - TheThirdRace Skill Overhaul

Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch

Unread Books Glow SSE 2.2.1

Visible Favorited Gear 2.03.1

Water Special Edition 1.3

XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended

 

 

[snelss0]

LOOT doesn't sort everything. Please tell me that the listed above is not the order your mods are in. If so, that's a problem. Inside LOOT, there is a menu with 3 dots. Click that and click copy load order, then paste it here.

 

Also, if you are using windows 10, make sure you have disabled your XBOX app's Xbox DVR option in your start menu. It can cause FPS drop. Also, it is possible that some of your hardware could be failing, not necessarily overheating. Is your computer older?

[GiovannaPaciullo]

Hey thanks for replying!

No this is is only my mod list. I chose to list this over my load order cuz I dont believe it is the problem since I always sort with LOOT and I read everything on the mods page about the installation, and with my mod list you guys could see my texture mods.

My setup is quite new, with less than 2 years of use, not overclocked or with any changes at all. I dont have any problems with other games like Witcher 3, Dragon age Inquisition, Far Cry Primal and other high demaning games, everything is maxed out and I don't get any problems.

I was browsing and I found something kinda similar, about the interior fog, which may cause a huge fps drop, and since I'm using Climates of Tamriel something might have been conflicting (?)

 

My load order is this one:

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

7 7 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

8 8 ApachiiHair.esm

9 9 TTR_Skill_Overhaul.esm

10 a RSkyrimChildren.esm

11 b Cutting Room Floor.esp

12 c SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

13 d IcePenguinWorldMap.esp

14 e Book Covers Skyrim.esp

15 f Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp

16 10 Ars Metallica.esp

17 11 Beards.esp

18 12 TTR_Skill_Overhaul_Alchemy.esp

19 13 TTR_Skill_Overhaul_Alteration.esp

20 14 TTR_Skill_Overhaul_Archery.esp

21 15 TTR_Skill_Overhaul_Block.esp

22 16 TTR_Skill_Overhaul_Conjuration.esp

23 17 TTR_Skill_Overhaul_Destruction.esp

24 18 TTR_Skill_Overhaul_Enchanting.esp

25 19 TTR_Skill_Overhaul_Illusion.esp

26 1a TTR_Skill_Overhaul_Lockpicking.esp

27 1b TTR_Skill_Overhaul_OneHanded.esp

28 1c TTR_Skill_Overhaul_Pickpocket.esp

29 1d TTR_Skill_Overhaul_Restoration.esp

30 1e TTR_Skill_Overhaul_Sneak.esp

31 1f TTR_Skill_Overhaul_Speech.esp

32 20 TTR_Skill_Overhaul_TwoHanded.esp

33 21 UnreadBooksGlow.esp

34 22 Visible Favorited Gear.esp

35 23 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp

36 24 DSHg - Circlets.esp

37 25 DSHg - DragonPriest Masks.esp

38 26 DSHg - Hats.esp

39 27 DSHg - Helmets.esp

40 28 TTR_Skill_Overhaul_Smithing.esp

41 29 TTR_Skill_Overhaul_HeavyArmor.esp

42 2a TTR_Skill_Overhaul_LightArmor.esp

43 2b DSHg - Hoods.esp

44 2c DSHg - UpdateDB.esp

45 2d DSHg - UpdateDG.esp

46 2e Footprints.esp

47 2f KS_Hairdo's_Lite.esp

48 30 LeftHandRings.esp

49 31 LeftHandRings_1stPersonView.esp

50 32 skyBirds_SSE.esp

51 33 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

52 34 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp

53 35 Map Markers Complete.esp

54 36 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

55 37 FNIS.esp

56 38 InigoPerkPointGiver.esp

57 39 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x5.esp

58 3a XPMSSE.esp

59 3b RSChildren - Complete.esp

60 3c RSChildren_PatchUSSEP.esp

61 3d Runandwalkpaces.esp

62 3e RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp

63 3f True Eyes SE.esp

64 40 TrueBrows.esp

65 41 Water Special Edition.esp

66 42 SkyHUD.esp

67 43 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

68 44 more idle markers.esp

69 45 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

edit:Typo!

Edited January 14, 2017 by GiovannaPaciullo

[snelss0]

1. Footprints could be a potential culprit. You are overhauling lots of aspects of your skyrim, and that means each NPC has changes most likely, then coupled with this mod and cutting room floor, can cause some huge scripts.
2. I would move your USLEEP right after dragonborn.esm instead of after your lanterns mod.
3. I would also suggest moving your FNIS, animations, and Skeleton mod to the very bottom of your load order and then move all UI or HUD related mods up high in your load order, then sort with LOOT.

4. Also, make sure you've made the proper .ini edits that your grass mods and whatever enb you may or may not be using requires you to make.

[Project579]

Remember that when you are inside, the game still keeps the last outside cell you where loaded in memory that could be causing your lag problems as well. And if that is your load order well... it's a bit of a disaster.

[GiovannaPaciullo]

1. Footprints could be a potential culprit. You are overhauling lots of aspects of your skyrim, and that means each NPC has changes most likely, then coupled with this mod and cutting room floor, can cause some huge scripts.

2. I would move your USLEEP right after dragonborn.esm instead of after your lanterns mod.

3. I would also suggest moving your FNIS, animations, and Skeleton mod to the very bottom of your load order and then move all UI or HUD related mods up high in your load order, then sort with LOOT.

4. Also, make sure you've made the proper .ini edits that your grass mods and whatever enb you may or may not be using requires you to make.

 

1. I don't think that footprints has a influence because I already tried disabling it before and the problem persisted, kinda sad cuz I would get rid of it in a heartbeat

2. I followed the Lanters of Skyrim's mod autor, he specifically said to put his mod before USLEEP, and sorting with LOOT makes the same load order.

3. I guess I will try these changes!

4. I did, I made every necessary change that was asked, thats the most frustrating thing.

 

 

Remember that when you are inside, the game still keeps the last outside cell you where loaded in memory that could be causing your lag problems as well. And if that is your load order well... it's a bit of a disaster.

 

Well that I didn't knew about, but dropping 35-40 FPS while looking at walls indoors while the last loaded exterior cell was a desert location doesnt make any sense to me, not to mention my FPS goes back to normal if I simply turn the characters head 1 degree.

 

I dont think my load order a disaster when I followed every autors notes and on top of that let LOOT sort it, maybe having a lot of new mods makes it that bad?

[snelss0]

Just because you disable a mod, doesn't mean its scripts have stopped running. Skyrim bakes scripts into your saved game. To properly test, start a new game once disabled.

Generally the load order I use is:

Skyrim

Update

Dawnguard

Hearthfires

Dragonborn

(In your case Lanterns)

USLEEP

[other .esms]

[utility mods] (Skse, UI, or papyrus scripts, generally don't have .esps)

[All other .esps]

[Texture mods] (anything that changes the appearance of skyrim]

[body mods] (anything that changes appearances of bodies]

FNIS

[Animations]

XPMSE

[any mod LOOT sorts after]

RS Patch (if using real shelter- loot doesn't sort)

[GiovannaPaciullo]

Just because you disable a mod, doesn't mean its scripts have stopped running. Skyrim bakes scripts into your saved game. To properly test, start a new game once disabled.

Generally the load order I use is:

Skyrim

Update

Dawnguard

Hearthfires

Dragonborn

(In your case Lanterns)

USLEEP

[other .esms]

[utility mods] (Skse, UI, or papyrus scripts, generally don't have .esps)

[All other .esps]

[Texture mods] (anything that changes the appearance of skyrim]

[body mods] (anything that changes appearances of bodies]

FNIS

[Animations]

XPMSE

[any mod LOOT sorts after]

RS Patch (if using real shelter- loot doesn't sort)

I cannot thank you enough for trying to help me!

I'm gonna sort my load order like you said and see if any changes happen.

[snelss0]

Make sure your testing is on a new game, just to make sure no old scripts are messing with your skyrim.