Rimland Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Since "artifact" means "made by human" every bow is an artefact. I know you refering to game use, where they got some twisted usage of "artifact", just wanting to be a smart a** here :) technically speaking, they're called "Daedra artifacts" and since artifact means "made by something", and by virtue of the word Daedra being used synonymously with the word artifact... the "twisted usage" of artifact, has been indeed, compensated for. i know you're referring to... who knows what, just wanting to be a smart a** here :) I'm a big stupid troll ! The Gandiva: the bow, when twanged made the sound of thunder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandiva) Pinaka: the divine bow of Lord Shiva it will bring the end of the world. Others say that the flying arrow destroys all evil on earth to uphold dharma and righteousness. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_Dhanush). Perhaps a bow that has a unique feature against the Undead... or Vampires... or Werewovlves Brahmastra: The weapon was also believed to cause severe environmental damage. The land where the weapon was used became barren and all life in and around that area ceased to exist, as both women and men became infertile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmastra) Perhaps a bow that kills more than one enemy with one arrow? i.e. shoot one of a group of 4 bandits and all 4 are killed Cupid's Bow: causes fear, rage, (instead of love) for enemy's above level 50 or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesapien Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Since "artifact" means "made by human" every bow is an artefact. I know you refering to game use, where they got some twisted usage of "artifact", just wanting to be a smart a** here :) What does it mean in game? I'm really asking. Maybe it means made or touched by the divine instead of mortals? Since there really are gods in game, I don't mind Beth changing definitions. They would probably never call anything "natural". Plus, it's not like popular usage in my world is always correct. Also, what is "magic" in game in a world where magic actually refers to working knowledge? I often think that the only reason we use "science" instead of "magic" for referring to working knowledge is merely the result of convention and historical accident. Otherwise, the only difference is cultural bias toward possible implications of certain words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesapien Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) Since "artifact" means "made by human" every bow is an artefact. I know you refering to game use, where they got some twisted usage of "artifact", just wanting to be a smart a** here :) technically speaking, they're called "Daedra artifacts" and since artifact means "made by something", and by virtue of the word Daedra being used synonymously with the word artifact... the "twisted usage" of artifact, has been indeed, compensated for. i know you're referring to... who knows what, just wanting to be a smart a** here :) I'm a big stupid troll ! Don't you mean "made by someone"? Everything is made by something. It's confusing tho because of the lore that everything is actually made by the divine and their offspring, even the land is an artifact of the gods. Oh, the more I think about it, the more it just sounds like convention and not a real distinction. nm Edited January 14, 2012 by thesapien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lastito Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 When it comes to balance, I don't think archery is the biggest offender. In my last playthrough, I specialized in dual destruction + impact and sneaky daggers + shadow warrior. After I had shadow warrior, I didn't even need to sneak anymore. Just find enemy, crouch, and one shot. (This was on master.) and when it came to dragons, I would just stun lock them to death with dual thunderbolts. It was fun for a while of course, but then I got incredibly bored. Every weapon can be super powerful with the right perks paired with it. I personally have more trouble with archery because as most of you probably know, aiming in skyrim with bows is wonky. xD (Your arrow fires ABOVE where you point, and doesn't arc properly.) I can't hit dragons in the air since I'm still not used to it. :P More on topic, I really like those artifact ideas! swords with assassin blade can only deal 1 strike and with a higher chances to get detected, while bows with deadly aim can deal even 3 times assassin blade damage because the chance to get detected is low, so I'm sticking with bow. :biggrin: and shooting is not wonky, I prefer skyrim system than oblivion, because like Daenlin said "there is no arrow that flies forever", and the curving shot makes the gravitation effect more realistic :thumbsup:Yeah, but that one strike with a dagger does x30 damage with the brotherhood gloves. In fact, I didn't even use the gloves and that was enough for me to one-shot pretty much everything I came across on master. :P And if you read what I wrote, the shadow warrior perk means you can walk up to someone, crouch and be hidden for a second. Which means you don't really have to sneak to get that one shot. Search "skyrim shadow warrior" on youtube if you aren't sure what I mean. This isn't to say that you should play dagger and not bow, since if you read what I wrote you'd see that I left that character because it was too strong, and am now playing another character that specializes in bow.(Also, if you think the room will be alerted when you backstab someone, they aren't. xD It's really funny sometimes.) ...And yes, the shooting is a bit weird. If you look, when you shoot, the arrow flies above where you are pointing. This means I have to point a bit below where I want to hit to get it to hit there. I also didn't say that they should get rid of the curve, just make it a little more realistic. (Which would mean that they would arc at a different angle and not go as far.) luckily a high sneak can prevent you from immediate detection,I try my warrior with 65 sneak and get touched, and they alarmed suddenlybut different case with my thief, touched for a second and he still thinks i'm his imagination lol :biggrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpger30 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Am I the only person who never, ever uses magic weapons in Skyrim because I can't be bloody bothered to recharge them? Seriously. Never. You can tell me how easy it is, how little effort it takes....I know. Steam claims I have 295 hours down on this, I really do know. I still can't be bothered. I want to swing my weapon, people to get hurt....that's the extent of it. I wish no other involvement in this process. I have no interest in recharging my sword, like it's my mobile phone and I have to keep it topped up in case I need to cut off a face first thing in the morning. People tell me they're dumbing down games. This may be true. But God damn I just want my magical sword of fire to set things on fire without me having to feed it petrol now and then. I'm the same way. Once I get my enchanting to 100, I drop my soultrap bow/weapon for unenchanted weapons. I like simplicity, and this type of play style fits me perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faifh Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Since "artifact" means "made by human" every bow is an artefact. I know you refering to game use, where they got some twisted usage of "artifact", just wanting to be a smart a** here :) technically speaking, they're called "Daedra artifacts" and since artifact means "made by something", and by virtue of the word Daedra being used synonymously with the word artifact... the "twisted usage" of artifact, has been indeed, compensated for. i know you're referring to... who knows what, just wanting to be a smart a** here :) That makes sense. Don't you mean "made by someone"? Everything is made by something.. Yes, but not everything is made by "someone", unless you take the lore or the religion back to god(s). Artefact is an archological term, for anything that shows human activity. Like cave painting are artefact, but the cave itself isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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