Hagraven (please help, causing grave issues to quests)

[WardenAI]

Hi!

 

About Hagraven total immunity.

 

im having this major issue where I cannot seem to find, gone through SSEEdit records to see what changes made to this specific creature that makes it behave wierdly and cant get hit for some reason.

Im not sure if it's everywhere, but the most annoying part is that it happens in the sheagorath questline with the nightmare part (wabbajack quest), most if not all hagravens are essentially immortal, they wont get hit because me and others are just hitting through it, it acts wierd since sometimes (on different game starts) it buffs itself constantly and claw in melee range, or it cast 1 spell over and over that hit me yet not able to hit it, I have tried to target /kill command but it does'nt seem to work, it wont die but I can disable it and markofdelete it (did so on another save) but that does'nt seem to fix the issue nor make me complete the quests.

 

This happens to this speficic creature only, have'nt encountered anything like it on any others.

 

note that it is'nt essential or protected, have tried with mortal / immortal commands, so what is causing this? Im do not see anything wierd in the records in the SSEEdit and is'nt modified.

anyway here is my loadorder:

 

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# Please do not modify this file.
*unofficial skyrim special edition patch.esp
*ApachiiHairMales.esm
*ApachiiHairFemales.esm
*ApachiiHair.esm
*SMSkyrim.esp
*SkyMoMod.esm
*Campfire.esm
*RSkyrimChildren.esm
*Cutting Room Floor.esp
*SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
*Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
*Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp
*Bring Out Your Dead.esp
*FNIS.esp
*nordicrangerarmor.esp
*Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
*Bald Head.esp
*True Eyes SE.esp
*Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
*WeightlessOV_MERGED.esp
*EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
*ELFX - Exteriors.esp
*100 arrows attached.esp
*5 minutes.esp
*Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
*CLARALUX - SSE.esp
*Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp
*Friendlier Taverns.esp
*WATER.esp
*Whistle.esp
*Apophysis_DPM_SE.esp
*beltfastenedquivers.esp
*Better Shrouded Armour - SSE.esp
*AssassinEnchantment.esp
*IHSS.esp
*AAE Ultimate Edition.esp
*Drachis Argonian Eyes.esp
*Combat Evolved.esp
*Elemental Destruction.esp
*Mighty Dragons SE Medium Cooked.esp
*DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
*Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
*Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
*GrandPaladinSE.esp
*Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp
*Blowing in the Wind - ELFX Exteriors Patch SSE.esp
*Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged - Deep Immersion.esp
*skyBirds_SSE.esp
*SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
*Horse Texture Replacer.esp
*Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
*Ultimate Crossbow Collection.esp
*Tentapalooza.esp
*Windhelm Bridge Overhaul.esp
*SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp
*Towns And Villages Revamped SE - Whiterun.esp
*BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp
*Populated Dungns Caves Ruins Legendary.esp
*ThiefEyes_SSE.esp
*Logging.esp
*Insignificant Object Remover.esp
*dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
*dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
*dD-Medium Script Range.esp
*dD-No Screen Blood.esp
*ABT SE - Kevkas All-in-One.esp
*simple merchant growth.esp
*Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
*Run For Your Lives.esp
*TorchArrow.esp
*Cloaks.esp
*Aetherial Veins.esp
*Immersive Patrols II.esp
*QL_Queenie'sReachwindEyrie.esp
*UniqueBorderGates-All.esp
*Animal Tweaks.esp
*SOTFollowMeAndSwimToo.esp
*Deadly Creatures DLC.esp
*Immersive Wenches.esp
*Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp
*Better Daedric Artefacts.esp
*Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
*BosmerArmorMATY743.esp
*Skyshards.esp
*Frostfall.esp
*BAAB_English_MaxDamage_v1_2_5.esp
*Clearstone 1.0.esp
*RSChildren - ACK.esp
*Kynesgrove.esp
*Readable_Shadowmarks.esp
*RiftTreehouse.esp
*All armor - All enchantments.esp
*EoW_ShadowgreenRefuge.esp
*OpulentOutfits_SSE-2016 AIO.esp
*Glowtastic.esp
*Lush Falkreath.esp
*ForgottenCity.esp
LADX_SSE.esp
*DragonboneBarbarianMale.esp
*PilgrimsDelight.esp
*draugrweap_standa_de.esp
*Cliffside Home - Furnished.esp
*The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
*SmallEnviromentalFixes(SEF).esp
*1nivWICCloaks.esp
*WarmongerArmory_Vanilla.esp
*WarmongerArmory_DLC.esp
*WarmongerArmory_LeveledList.esp
*LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp
*Visible Favorited Gear.esp
*NightEyeSpell.esp
*SkyHUD.esp
*FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp
*FasterSkillLeveling2017.esp
*No NPC Greetings.esp
*WestWindAssault.esp
*Footprints.esp
*ImageSpace Modifier (0.10x).esp
*ImageSpace Modifier (0.50x).esp
*ImageSpace Modifier (0.75x).esp
*Vivid WeathersSE.esp
*DarkerNights.esp
*TrueStormsSE.esp
*VWTSSE-Patch.esp
*Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp
*Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp
*RealRainSE 2_4.esp
*RealRainSE 2_4 HeavyRain.esp
*MajesticMounatins.esp
*hunterscarvedarsenal.esp
*BVFE.esp
*ImmersivePerformance_Ordinator.esp
*UnlimitedEnchantmentsMod.esp
*Brujoloco-nighteyepatch.esp
*Equippable Tomes.esp
*50 More Perk Points.esp
*corvussword.esp
*Caligosword.esp
*Brigandage.esp
*DiverseWerewolvesCollection.esp
*AAE_MightyDragons_Patch.esp
*dragonslayerarrows - temper.esp
*RideWithMe.esp
*Black Dragon Arrow.esp
*Compound Bow Collection.esp
*Imperial_Outfits.esp
*NB-FurHoods.esp
*WetandCold.esp
*CraftableSkaalforFrostfall.esp
*PerkPointPotion.esp
*Animal Tweaks - SkyTEST Patch.esp
*MasterTrainer.esp
*HBetterBows.esp
*WoollyRhino.esp
*Batform.esp
*BiCa.esp
*moonpath.esp
*Early Fence.esp
*NewArmHorse.esp
*TheFloatingMarket.esp
*Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp
*summonmiraak - legit.esp
*shadowscaleset.esp
*The Legends-Nord Armor.esp
*FNISspells.esp
*Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
*ImmersiveWeaponsCrafting.esp
*ImmersiveCrafting.esp
*Crear Flechas MOD.esp
*WeaponsOf3E_SSE.esp
*Aetherial Veins - Immersive Sounds Patch.esp
*Atherial Veins - Ordinator Patch.esp
*infiniteCharge.esp
*ISD_Dragonspear.esp
*NoctisWingBow.esp
*No Edge Glow - Magic and Transformations.esp
*WhiteGlowFinal.esp
*Wandererarmor.esp
*RSChildren - Complete.esp
*RSChildren_PatchUSSEP.esp
*Unique Uniques.esp
*Meteor Storm (Storm Call Replacer).esp
*TESGLoadingScreens.esp
*Guard Helmet Voice FX.esp
*CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp
*AAE_AnimalTweaks_Patch.esp
*Dukkhas Forbidden Death Magic.esp
*animated dragon wings.esp
*_player_protection.esp
*ElvenGrandmaster.esp
*VioLens SE.esp
*VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp
*Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp
*Dr_Bandolier.esp
*KS Hairdo's.esp
*robesoftheelder.esp
*Sit Anywhere.esp
*maxrunes.esp
*dwbp.esp
*SkaalKidCoat.esp
*BosmerElderShadowArmor.esp
*dwbes.esp
*DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp
*HereticArmorPub.esp
*Volkihar Knight.esp
*Volkihar Knight - Light Armor Option.esp
*Armour_of_Yngol.esp
*DaggerCraft.esp
*Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
*tlswitchkillerarmor.esp
*thundering shouts.esp
*nithhogg dragon.esp
*Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
*Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
*WolfsPride.esp
*ClericArmoursCredo.esp
*Stormcloak Battle Armor Replacer.esp
*Backshields.esp
*GoldenNordicGear.esp
*Realistic and Balanced Horses.esp
*RaBH and STRAP.esp
*SlightlyFasterHorses.esp
*mylittlefamiliar.esp
*armorratingenchantment.esp
*SMSkyrim - Meshes.esp
*SMSkyrim - Encounters.esp
*SMSkyrim - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
ArcherCuirassUltimate.esp
More Helmet Please.esp
*XPMSSE.esp
*Hessian Sword.esp
*Qd Characters.esp
*CampioneDiBoethiah.esp
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*LeftHandRings.esp
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*wyldtats.esp
*Open Cities Skyrim.esp
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*ELFX - Hardcore.esp
*ELE_SSE.esp
*RealisticWaterTwo.esp
*Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp
*Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
*RealisticWaterTwo+-+Verdant+Patch.esp
*Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp
*SMSkyrim - Alternate Start + General Patch.esp
*Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp
*Blowing in the Wind - Open Cities Skyrim Patch SSE.esp
*RaBH and ICAO.esp
*SMSkyrim - Realistic Water Two Patch.esp
*Diversity - An NPC Overhaul.esp

 

Thank you in advance.

[jstillen20]

I have the EXACTLY same problem. No clue what mod is causing this

[Alisu]

Are you inside the nightmare? Have you tried wabbajacking it? I seem to recall that specific sequence has heavily scripted enemies and wabbajack is the only solution to everything. i seem to recall I had some trouble with the hargraven before I realised how exactly the situation should be solved, which is not by killing the hargraven. If I understood correctly what situation you refer to, that is.

[jstillen20]

I think WardenAI meant this creature has a "immunity glitch" everywhere. I have exactly the same issue.

 

I discovered a Hagraven north of Riften that was immune to my swords/arrows/daggers (both magical and not), all offensive spells, a ward I placed on the ground had no effect. Even my Essential Follower spent 5 min on the thing with elven daggers and nada. Absolutely no damage caused. I had to just run away.

 

I discovered a Hagraven in a cave with the same problem.

 

WardenAI - I looked through your mod list and below are the ones we have in common. Still looking for a solution, but this might help narrow it down.

 

*unofficial skyrim special edition patch.esp
*Campfire.esm
*RSkyrimChildren.esm
*Cutting Room Floor.esp
*SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
*Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
*True Eyes SE.esp
*Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
*Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
*CLARALUX - SSE.esp
*Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp
*Whistle.esp
*Apophysis_DPM_SE.esp
*Combat Evolved.esp
*DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
*Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
*Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
*SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
*Towns And Villages Revamped SE - Whiterun.esp
*Run For Your Lives.esp
*Immersive Patrols II.esp
*Animal Tweaks.esp
*Immersive Wenches.esp
*Frostfall.esp
*RSChildren - ACK.esp
*OpulentOutfits_SSE-2016 AIO.esp
*ForgottenCity.esp
*The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
*SkyHUD.esp
*No NPC Greetings.esp
*Footprints.esp
*Vivid WeathersSE.esp
*TrueStormsSE.esp
*VWTSSE-Patch.esp
*Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp
*Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp
*WetandCold.esp
*Animal Tweaks - SkyTEST Patch.esp
*moonpath.esp
*Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
*RSChildren - Complete.esp
*RSChildren_PatchUSSEP.esp
*Unique Uniques.esp
*AAE_AnimalTweaks_Patch.esp
*VioLens SE.esp
*VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp
*Sit Anywhere.esp
*Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
*Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
*Backshields.esp
*SMSkyrim - Meshes.esp
*SMSkyrim - Encounters.esp
*SMSkyrim - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
*LeftHandRings.esp
*LeftHandRings_1stPersonView.esp
*Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
*RealisticWaterTwo.esp
*Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp
*Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
*RealisticWaterTwo+-+Verdant+Patch.esp
*Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp
*SMSkyrim - Alternate Start + General Patch.esp
*Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp
*SMSkyrim - Realistic Water Two Patch.esp

 

Any help for us would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

[jstillen20]

Reading the posts on Advanced Adversary Encounters, seemed someone else had thenough same problem. He fixed it by updating this mod from 3.0 to 3.3. Going to try this.

GL.