Keanumoreira Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 It's being delayed until February, but the protests are still massing, and the voters are thinking twice. For all those (like me) who signed the petition, or in some way, helped to oppose this bill, then give yourselves a pat on the back. We've won the first battle on the war against online censorship. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justwannaddl Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 They're probably going to try to be less blatant about screwing individual rights next time. Slap on the slogan "to protect the children" and then it'll be off to round two. Sadly, next time already looks to be closer than you'd think. http://www.slashgear.com/sopa-sponsor-has-another-internet-bill-that-records-you-247-20210264/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keanumoreira Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 They're probably going to try to be less blatant about screwing individual rights next time. Slap on the slogan "to protect the children" and then it'll be off to round two. Sadly, next time already looks to be closer than you'd think. http://www.slashgear.com/sopa-sponsor-has-another-internet-bill-that-records-you-247-20210264/ Yes, I've heard about that. I hope that gets washed away along with this SOPA crap too. I'm still hopeful that something will change for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboUK Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Well if nothing else this episode has raised awareness of the issue, hopefully people will take a little more notice of what their "representatives" are up to in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonkr Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 A bill like this would never pass. Just like most bills nowdays :biggrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxXEvandarXxx Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I saw this on Reddit a few of days ago: It's not a waiting game, it's a game of poker. Lamar Smith has a royal flush and few people know it. SOPA may pass. It may not. He doesn't care, and it doesn't matter. The MPAA and RIAA started working on their legislative strategy to pass a new anti-piracy bill in late 2010. SOPA was designed to raise the noise. Everyone is playing right into the entertainment industries hand. The lobbyists are laughing manically at the ignorance of the mob. Even Wikipedia and reddit have played into it. What people don't know about is the ace: H.R.1981, the Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011 which is lying in wait. It's not complete. You see, PCIP is not contestable because it's about protecting children. They can, and very well might, copy and paste the full text of SOPA to the end of PCIP. That's the backup. That's the deal that was struck with entertainment industry lobbyists. We will try to push this anti-piracy bill. It probably won't work. Don't worry, we can pass it under an anti-child pornography bill. There are two things which no Congressman will risk supporting: terrorism and child pornography. There can be no opposition, no discussion. Any anti-piracy law can ALWAYS be reframed as an anti-child pornography bill and it will pass, without even discussion. It will have the full support of the House (minus Ron Paul), the full support of the Senate, and most importantly the full support of the American people. NO ONE wants to risk being called a pedophile. The entertainment industry has finally caught up with technology. They understand how it works. It took them 15 years, but they know what DNS is. They are going to exploit a fundamental problem with the way DNS is centralized and there is nothing that can be done to stop it. They have found an error in the very architecture of the Internet. The solution, from a free speech standpoint is not to fight it politically. The solution is the fix the error. We must move to a decentralized system of DNS. It is not impossible. It requires some new thinking and a re-architecture of some web services, but it must be done if we want the Internet, as we know it today, to exist in 5 or 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keanumoreira Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 I saw this on Reddit a few of days ago: It's not a waiting game, it's a game of poker. Lamar Smith has a royal flush and few people know it. SOPA may pass. It may not. He doesn't care, and it doesn't matter. The MPAA and RIAA started working on their legislative strategy to pass a new anti-piracy bill in late 2010. SOPA was designed to raise the noise. Everyone is playing right into the entertainment industries hand. The lobbyists are laughing manically at the ignorance of the mob. Even Wikipedia and reddit have played into it. What people don't know about is the ace: H.R.1981, the Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011 which is lying in wait. It's not complete. You see, PCIP is not contestable because it's about protecting children. They can, and very well might, copy and paste the full text of SOPA to the end of PCIP. That's the backup. That's the deal that was struck with entertainment industry lobbyists. We will try to push this anti-piracy bill. It probably won't work. Don't worry, we can pass it under an anti-child pornography bill. There are two things which no Congressman will risk supporting: terrorism and child pornography. There can be no opposition, no discussion. Any anti-piracy law can ALWAYS be reframed as an anti-child pornography bill and it will pass, without even discussion. It will have the full support of the House (minus Ron Paul), the full support of the Senate, and most importantly the full support of the American people. NO ONE wants to risk being called a pedophile. The entertainment industry has finally caught up with technology. They understand how it works. It took them 15 years, but they know what DNS is. They are going to exploit a fundamental problem with the way DNS is centralized and there is nothing that can be done to stop it. They have found an error in the very architecture of the Internet. The solution, from a free speech standpoint is not to fight it politically. The solution is the fix the error. We must move to a decentralized system of DNS. It is not impossible. It requires some new thinking and a re-architecture of some web services, but it must be done if we want the Internet, as we know it today, to exist in 5 or 10 years. I'm not surprised that the government would indirectly use children as a means to pass this bill. It should surprise me, but it really doesn't. :dry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketknight Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 SOPA is dead .... Tell that to MEGAUPLOAD... watch out for round two... :down: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 SOPA is dead .... Tell that to MEGAUPLOAD... watch out for round two... :down:Round 2 seems to be this "protecting children from pornography" bill... Which somehow is supposed to work by having ISPs monitor what sites adults visit when they use their creditcards, storing this information for 18 months. Think about that one for a moment. Great, now explain to me how the two are in any way related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted1744345User Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Great, now explain to me how the two are in any way related. I'll make it easy for you: it simply isn't. It is really just another step we are taking towards a police state run by corporations. From what I can understand of this bill, they'll probably try to control how we spend our money and it will help them if they have easy access to our financial data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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