MilanKokyCZ Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Guys please start thinking why you keep making these great quallity weapon mods when there is just too much of them and we simpy dont have place to use them in f4 we need more quallitya quest and immersion mods first than make weapons, armor mods as much as you want this is rly nonsence. i keep waiting for some good quest mods. When i think it shoudnt be so much hard especially when we have thsese voiceactor line so you can use vanilla voice and dont need to have actors to play it. so why it is so hard and why there is so much weapon mods ? we need more overhauls, map mods, qusest and immersion mods and not all those armor, weapons mods there is just too muc of them !!! and i dont mansion the body mods -_- the game is simply not so enjoyable f4 is not so big so make it bigger that is what modders shoud have been for and not for everyone making weapon it is so silly. We have so far only one kynda good overhaul mod and that is Horizon which for some people is too hard to play so please start makeing good quallity mods like you make these quallity weapons and focus on it. Or create new world and integrate those of your weapons into that world just some idea. I think some people would agrea on this with me. Im rly sick of those weapon mods it is simply too much of them. ! :) just something to think of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WastelandAssassin Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 first of all , if you really think that there are all the weapon mods you could ever want , I have to ask , do you even follow the projects in the making now?projects like WARS , and Wasteland Overhaul , these will have so much more than what we currently have , and that's awesome second , you do know that making different types of mods require a very different set of skills , right?quest mods that are really good , they require a person with a vision , and some rather extensive GECK experienceaside from this , these mods take a s#*! ton of time to makejust look at how long it took to develop Maxwell's World , which is one of the only complete quest mods that I know of If you want something done , why don't you go around and do it yourself?because making a request to stop the production of new mods is just childish , and by no means gives us any progress towards better modsbesides , did you actually bother to look at the many projects for quest mods and such being made right now?because there are several really interesting ones in the making right now that I personally follow , and probably some that I don't even know of , but this all takes timeyou want more of these mods? why don't you try and join a team making one , and help in making something , rather than discouraging other amazing mod makers from doing what they love for us all to love for free! please refrain from making such suggestions , they aren't helping anyonedon't want a mod? don't get ityou want a specific mod made , try to do it yourself , or request itbut this kind of topic is just disgraceful , and you should never show such disrespect , especially considering the amazing people you are targeting with this statement of yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damanding Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Pretty much every mod author I've ever heard talk about their motivation for making a mod says they make stuff for themselves first and foremost. Learning to do this stuff takes an untold number of hours that we don't get paid for. Since money isn't the motivation, we need to find another reason to get motivated to invest literally hundreds of hours for free. I've probably spent well over 200 hours just on Creative Clutter alone. I didn't do it because some overly self-entitled person on Nexus started a thread saying that mod authors suck for not making what they want. I did it because it was content I personally wanted to see in the game and the few authors who had already made similar content weren't making what I wanted. But I didn't complain about them not making what I wanted. Instead I started talking to some of them about collaborating, and far more importantly, I demonstrated I was serious by learning how to do it and contributing my fair share of content. I didn't just say "hey I'm going to be your team leader now and tell you all my ideas and you go forth and do it for me." So we have quite a few weapon and armor mods because there are a number of people for whom that is their primary interest. Crimsomrider makes great, creative outfits that he personally wants to use. All the guys making gun mods...what do you know, they happen to really like guns! As stated above, there is a really diverse set of talents required for making mods and most mod authors specialize in an area that interests them. We specialize because it takes a lot of time and effort to learn all this stuff. There isn't exactly a college class we can sign up for. And again, I can't emphasize this enough...we're not getting paid so we're going to focus on things we want to. So instead of pissing off the very people who make all the lovely mods people enjoy, how about just saying thanks for all your hard, unpaid work or rolling up your sleeves and digging in to create the mods you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamaRCA Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Yeah, there are always "too many" in that you can't use them all. But I'd rather have lots of choice than far fewer in numbers. It's a blessed modding community that has an overabundance of well executed mods made by talented artists. damanding is right when she says we mod for ourselves first and if we aren't interested in building something we just won't build it. Most of us are hobbyists and don't get paid for the time we spend building mods. Join our ranks and create the content you want to see rather than sitting on the sidelines bemoaning the fact that other people don't want to build what you want. Most of us started because we had similar thoughts, "Where's x mod that I want in my game? Guess I'll have to build it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilanKokyCZ Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 Hey i didnt say im ungreitfull this is the tame topic that just came on youtube to. And i did say these mods are great quallity so i didnt did anything wrong. What i justsaying is we have to much of these mods all of these weapons some of them simply dont even fit for me in fallout universe and are not lore friendly atleas if those weqpons would be from fallout universe that would be cool. And i know it takes a lot of time. Im simply sick of going thrue.nexus every day and only new content is weapons, skinpy body mods or armor and nothung that would make atleqs sence. I font know than why dont take these people who know how ro make quest mods than take those who love to make weapons and integrrat them into thosequestmods just some ideas. And one more time i didnt sayanything abou disrepectfull or something like that i like the look of those weapons. But it is simplytoo much of them and there is not space in original game to even use them because there is more than enough weapons in original game already just my opinon if you dont like it dont read it. And we definetly need more quest mods, immersion mods that is whatmakes the game greatand fresh again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimsomrider Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Whenever I see a topic like this, especially on Youtube, it makes me cringe so hard with my teeth that I make sparks fly. Why do you say "we" ? Who's "we" ? As in "we have voice actors", "we need more quality quest mods"... There's no we... there's only you and every other mod user who never spent a single second to know what's it like to create a mod. Just like every other user with opinions on both Youtube and the Nexus. They all have their opinions which they often love to express and bother modders, but they never have any insight on what it takes to create one. Modders make mods because they want to make mods, not because you or him or anyone else complains about it on the forum or Youtube comment section. Modders make them out of their own time and passion because they want to change their game and play it the way they want to play it. If someone makes skimpy mods, it's his right. If someone makes weapon mods, it's his right. And I personally hate it whenever someone says the following : Im simply sick of going thrue.nexus every day and only new content is weapons, skinpy body mods or armor and nothung that would make atleqs sence. You're sick of it ? You're sick of mods which are made by people who are happy in their life by creating what they want to personally use in their game ? Wow... shocking. Had it even crossed your mind that you can simply go onto Google, open thousands of web pages available to you in today's day and age and simply learn how to make mods yourself ? Then you won't have to be sick of other people's non lore-friendly crappy skimpy weapon mods. You can finally create what YOU personally want to see in the game. But I guess you won't do that, because it's easier to say how you are sick of mods which you personally want to see, not being made. Newsflash, I started modding because nobody was making mods that I wanted to see. It's how it goes. If you want to see something in a game, then you go online, google "how to do X or Y", dig through the internet and learn it. Then when you have some experience but you hit a bump in the road, you turn your questions to the community which then helps you. But complaining about how you're sick of the content that people are making is honestly... blowing in the wind. As the famous line goes; "If you want something done, do it yourself". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilanKokyCZ Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 I see if you would get paid you would make what i want insteqd of listening comunity well imsure in zime people willjoin me im sickofall of these weqpons mods. And all what are you about ismoney so idontralk withpeople thatonlywant money bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reneer Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) Accusing Crimsomrider of being "all about the money". I think I got whiplash from that one. :tongue: Edited February 16, 2017 by Reneer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamaRCA Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I see if you would get paid you would make what i want insteqd of listening comunity well imsure in zime people willjoin me im sickofall of these weqpons mods. And all what are you about ismoney so idontralk withpeople thatonlywant money bye No, that isn't what she said. What we're saying to you is this: 1) Everyone would like to see mods that aren't currently available2) People complain about not seeing what they want all day long every day3) Some people do more than complain, they learn how to mod and make what they want to see4) Modders who do create content and share it are constantly inundated with requests by players from 1 and 2 to make the exact thing they want5) Modders only have so many hours in a day to create. They have jobs, families and many other real life responsibilities. This means they only have so much time to mod. It is obvious in this situation that modders will work on what they want to build, not the very exact thing you (or any other player) want. That's why, if lack of a particular kind of mod is killing the fun one has in the game, it's just easier to learn to make it oneself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damanding Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Accusing Crimsomrider of being "all about the money". I think I got whiplash from that one. :tongue:Yeah the irony is strong in that one. Now it would be fair to say Reneer is "all about the money". :D :D :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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