Powerful Toon

[XyionUK]

Hi there,

 

I've been playing the game for about a week absolutely loving it, I made my own toon and everything and I can't help but feel my toon is under-powered against most foe.

 

I don't know why this is, I've put more points into Light Armor to increase damage resistance but still I take incredible amounts of damage. I have problems taking down Trolls, Giants, Mammoths, there must be something I am missing. It also feels I don't deal enough damage, I spend countless fights kiting mobs around and slashing at every opportunity I get.

 

I also tried out a pure Mage character and I can't finish most fights without pouring litres of Magicka potions down my neck.

 

If someone could give me some pointers, I would greatly appreciate it.

 

Thanks

[Moredhel]

Hmm, light armored chars arent there to take a beating ;) You should stealth around and backstab / fire arrows from stealth as much as you can! Trolls, Giants and Mammoths are generally a tougher fight than a dragon so don't worry about that.

[chanchan05]

If you haven't played similar style games, this isn't like most RPGs where you just sit back, cast and tank the damage. Move around. Think of it as something like a first person shooter. As much as possible try to not get hit by using a shield or just evading the damage being dealt. I know this wont level the armor skill pretty fast, but it's what gets you to live. Light armor wearing people aren't supposed to get hit really. They have armor to reduce attack damage, but its light so they can run fast and evade, unlike heavy armor where you actually get slowed down running. Heck the level 100 skill for light armor is 10% evasion.

 

Also regarding Giants and Mammoths, those are like, level 30-40 monsters, while Trolls have a wider range, I think 15-25 depending on type of Troll? What level are you? Some monsters do scale with you, but these guys don't. At level 58, my Bosmer can one-shot a giant.

[XyionUK]

All right I'll do my best to get in the right frame of mind. I played Oblivion and it just had such a different feel, I was able to wear light armor and destroy a foe in a straight up fight.

 

I've been mixing my toons up a bit my highest level is 20 and I have Perks in One-Handed, Stealth, Light Armor, Enchanting (which I think Blows they don't appear to be any good using soul trap leaves me defenceless for healing), Blacksmithing and Restoration. I tend to get caught of guard when questing, if an enemy pops out of a hidden location all my perks gear up for preparation or careful tactical take downs from stealth. I would have thought with the skills I would have decent coverage of a well built character, I haven't added Archery into the mix yet and I am planning on doing so but if points were spent here I feel I would lose out elsewhere making my character weaker. Let me put it this way compared to Oblivion where I was a total baller and could handle pretty much any fight, as a dragon born, I feel a little bit underpowered.

 

In cave's if something goes wrong I get spotted and enemies come down on me, I am defenceless. I basically just admit defeat. If it's something I just have to percevere with just until I level up and take the right perks then I will have to do that. Which brings me to a quick question... Under One-Handed the "Bladesman" perk says that Attacks with Swords have an increased chance of doing critical damage, does a dagger fall under this category?

 

Thanks for the responses, I appreciate it. :)

[deathjam]

*Snip* Which brings me to a quick question... Under One-Handed the "Bladesman" perk says that Attacks with Swords have an increased chance of doing critical damage, does a dagger fall under this category?

Thanks for the responses, I appreciate it. :)

 

Sadly no it doesn't :down:

 

See if you can get Valdr's Lucky Dagger, that gives you an extra 25% chance to land a critical IIRC.

[chanchan05]

You're spreading yourself a bit thin if you are just level 20 and are already putting perks under 6 skill trees, which is why you feel weak. Try to focus on survivability more. I had a Bosmer archer which had not much trouble with opponents (apart from crazy Saber Cats and Trolls when I was below 20) on any level since I focused on damage and defense first. I started putting perks in enchanting and smithing at level 25-ish.

 

At level 12 I can kill mammoths and giants. All you need to find is a ledge. Make use of the environment. I'll use up almost 50 arrows though. LOL.

[XyionUK]

Right so I will focus my Perks into Offence and Defence rather than crafting from now on, but I don't really have any options. I have taken all I can from Sneak at the moment and all I can from One-Handed and Light Armor and seeing as I wish to use daggers and I don't have any additional damage increase from the perk, I am forced into using swords.

 

I thought the character creation process in Skyrim was supposed to be simple and rewarding for what type of play style you like. I would like to be a dagger wielding Assassin which also could add some Archery for the dragons which never seem to target you just other random mobs in Skyrim. It appears as this can't be done, do I have to wield swords in order to get the most damage out of the One-handed skill?

 

I'm tempted to just re-roll a face roll Heavy Armored, Two Handed Orc and just smash some skulls. Or even re-roll my stealth class and just avoid daggers as it appears they aren't viable. At this point in time the game frustrates me.

[grayle]

I would suggest you use sword for the meantime. once you get higher up the stealth tree and get those backstab crit perks with the daggers, you will be complaining about the opposite: that the game is too easy. Also, head to windhelm and start the dark brotherhood quest... The dark brotherhood will dole out the gear you need to be the character your envisioning to be.

[chanchan05]

Use bows. And don't stop using them. The thing is, you are using different skills all at the same time. You've leveled up all 6 skill trees that's why you got to 20 a bit early. For a comparison, some other guy here has already level 90 conjuration and he's still level 15. Talk about hard hitting summons at that level. The more you use your other skills, the more your character levels up. However the game scales with you, so increasing your smithing skills and enchanting skills may give you better equipment, but your damage and tanking abilties (via armor and offensive skills) does not increase. However the monsters in the world increase their offense and defense as you level up.

 

Just to be clear, I am not talking about spreading perks. I am talking about using the skills (using lockpicking/enchanting etc). You can for example reach level 20 without using any perk or doing any combat, just smith, and smith and smith, because learning skills levels you up. The problem with what you did is you increased the levels on skill trees you don't need yet (Smithing and Enchanting), causing you to level up faster, increasing the strength of your opponents, but your own offensive skillset did not increase. Its like you entered a cheat and set the enemies like 5 levels higher than you are, or something to that effect.

 

Its going to be a bit hard to try and catch up to them I know. But since you were intending on using a bow, level it up NOW. As Leon once said, if you want to be an assassin, learn to use the rifle (bow) first because it lets you keep your distance from the target, and the better assassin you become, the closer you can get to your client. Currently you are offensively and defensively weaker than your opponents because of the levels you gained through enchanting and smithing. So you have to deal damage while they're still far away, then whip out your sword and kill them.

 

The more you use enchanting and smithing right now, the stronger your enemies will become because you are leveling up.

 

As for the complaint about daggers, it seems that you want the dagger damage to increase? But realistically speaking, daggers aren't really going to do damage to armored warriors anyway. They're for sneak attacks. Once you reach a certain level, with the correct skill trees leveled, you can clear a room of enemies with a dagger without anyone seeing you.

Edited January 26, 2012 by chanchan05

[TimF]

I started 4 chars simultaneously: a warrior, a mage, an assassin and finally an archer. The latter is very much like the third, but much less powerful.