oHUD Blocked

[cethien]

i recently reinstlled everything from nv and mods, this time without Darnui (and darnui patch ofc), cause i found Vanilla UI+ better. no i have problems with oHUD, for some reason it can't affect the Vanilla hud elements, neither disable brackets nor moving. i have tried disabling and reinstalling some mods that could affect (overwrite), but somehow not working. could someone take a minute and look if something is wrong with my loadorder or modincompatibilty?

 

NVSE Plugins:

- NVSE 5.0 beta3

- JIP NVSE 36.50

- Lutana NVSE 19

- NVAC 7.5.1.0

- NVSR 4.1.36

 

Loadorder (MO, right)

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

FalloutNV.esm

HonestHearts.esm

DeadMoney.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

CaravanPack.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

LazarusProject.esm

oHUD.esm

JIP Selective-Fire.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

NVEC Complete.esm

rePopulated Wasteland.esm

WARZONES - Misanthropy Pure.esm

FreesideOpen.esm

NVStripOpen.esm

Less Empty Primm.esp

FCOMaster.esm

Gomorrah Redesigned v2.esp

New Vegas Redesigned 3.esm

Advanced Recon Tech.esm

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esm

AnimationProject.esm

AnimationProjectV5PatchForSprint.esm

ZionTrail.esm

FalloutNV_lang.esp

YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

Jump Bug Fixer.esp

Perk Fixes.esp

Perk Fixes LR.esp

SuitsFix.esp

SarahWeintraubSexySleepwear.esp

ChiefHanlonCaesarDyingFix.esp

Lonesome Road Crash Fix.esp

BetterLoadingText.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

Radar.esp

LootMenu.esp

The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

Passive Startup Messages.esp

ftpcam.esp

Tatctical Third Person Camera - FOV 30.esp

FastVatsRealtime.esp

Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

Ultimate Invisible Wall Remover.esp

FreesideOpenPatch.esp

StripOpenMain.esp

Lucky38Suite_Reloaded.esp

Novac Motel - Couriers Room.esp

Novac Motel - Exterior.esp

Roberts_NewVegas.esp

FCO - Roberts Patch.esp

New Vegas Redesigned 3.esp

BooneSilentRifle.esp

Veronnopowerfist.esp

VeronicaDialogueFix.esp

MM Rose hunting shotgun.esp

ED-E Advanced.esp

Follower Tweaks.esp

Companion Sandbox Mode3.esp

JIP Companions Command & Control.esp

Follower Home Marker.esp

LegionArmourRedesigned.esp

TribalFiends.esp

NCRTrooperOverhaul.esp

TrooperOverhaul-Dragbody.esp

OldWorldBlues - Light Stealth Suit MKII.esp

Advanced Recon Tech.esp

Advanced Recon Gear.esp

Advanced Recon Gear - Project Nevada.esp

Advanced Recon Desert Ranger Helmet.esp

Advanced Recon Riot Gear Helmet.esp

1nivPNSLPatch.esp

1nivVSLArmors.esp

Courier Armor.esp

Geonox_Riot_Armor.esp

Colossus T49.esp

Project Nevada - Collossus T49 helm patch.esp

ToughTravellerArmour.esp

USMarineCombatArmour.esp

FlashlightNVSE.esp

PKM.esp

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Leveled.Lists.esp

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Honest.Hearts.Grunt.Patch.esp

WeaponModsExpanded.esp

WMX-DLCMerged.esp

WMX-POPMerged.esp

OdinAMRUnique.esp

No Ammo Weight.esp

Quest Item Hider.esp

CAGE 1.9.3.2.esp

JIP Improved Recipe Menu.esp

QuickClothes.esp

MoreChems.esp

Campfire_Cookin'.esp

Water Overhaul.esp

Power Armor Enhanced 1.1.esp

Better Breaching.esp

Bunk beds.esp

RSO - Realistic Stealth Overhaul - NV.esp

Saints & Sinners.esp

SilverRushReOccupied.esp

Reactive People - Ultimatum.esp

XFO - 9a - Enemies - AI revamp.esp

XFO - 9da - Enemies - NPC Healing - low.esp

NoBombCollarNoToxicCloud.esp

OldWorldBlues - Keep Big MT Active No Announcements.esp

OldWorldBlues - Keep Big MT Active.esp

ZionTrail-NV.esp

Performance Of The Gods.esp

 

Modlist (MO, left)

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

-Script Configs

+Performance Of The Gods

-Beyond Boulder Dome

+Zion Trail

+Animation Project

+Weapon Animations Replacer

+Tweaked Standing Idle

+Old World Blues - Keep Big MT Active

+Dead Money - No Bomb Collar No Toxic Cloud

+Enemy AI

+Project Ultimatum

+Silver Rush ReOccupied

+Saints and Sinners

+Realistic Stealth Overhaul

+Bunk Beds

+Better Breaching

+Power Armor Enhanced

+Water Overhaul

+Campfire Cookin

+CAM - Chems, Alcohol & Meds

+Quick Clothes

+JIP Improved Recipe Menu

+CAGE

-Harder Final Battle

+Quest Item Hider

+No Ammo Weight

+Odin - A Unique Anti-Materiel Rifle

-Desert Eagle

-IMI Galil

+PKM

+Weapons Of The New Millenia

+Weapon Mods Expanded

+Flashlight

+US Marine Combat Armor

+Tough Traveller Armor

+Colossus T49XV

+Courier Armor - Riot

+Courier Armor

+Spice Of Life

+Advanced Recon - Riot Gear Helmets

+Advanced Recon - Desert Ranger Helmet

+Advanced Recon - Thermal Nightvision

+Light Stealth Suit MK II

+Trooper Overhaul

+Tribal Fiends

+Legion Armour Redesigned

+Follower Home Marker

+JIP Companions - Command and Control

+Companion Sandbox

+Follower Tweaks

+ED-E Advanced

+ED-E Texture Replacer

+Cass - The Rose Shotgun

+Veronica - Dialogue Fix

+Veronica - No Power Fist

+Boone - Silent Hunting Rifle

+Type3 Armors

+Type3 Body (non-Nude)

-New Vegas Redesign - Robert's & Willow Patches

+Robert's New Vegas (non-Nude)

+New Vegas Redesign

+Fallout Character Overhaul

-Willow

+Novac Motel - The Couriers Room

+Lucky 38 Suite Reloaded

+Less Empty Primm

+The Strip Open

+New Vegas Uncut - Freeside Open

+WARZONES

+Ultimate Invisible Wall Remover

+RePopulated Wasteland

+NVEC

+Project Nevada - Extra Options

+Project Nevada

+Fast VATS - Realtime

+Tactical Third Person Camera

+Auto Switch Sides

+Faster Pipboy Faster

+Enhanced Camera

-Pip-Boy Light Colours

-Shiloh DS - Clean Pipboy Screen

+Parkerized Pip-Boy (White LED)

+The Weapon Mod Menu

+Passive Startup Messages

+UIO - User Interface Organizer

+Aimpoint Crosshair

+JIP Selective-Fire

+Loot Menu

+Radar Mod

+One HUD

+Lazarus Project

+The Mod Configuration Menu

+Vanilla UI Plus

+Better Loading Text

+Radiation Loading Wheel

+Even Better Loading Screens and Main Menu

+Fix - Lonesome Road Crash

+Fix - Chief Hanlon Caeser Dialogue

+Fix - Sarah Weintraub Sexy Sleepwear

+Fix - Pauldron Glitch

+Fix - Suits

+Fix - Perks

+Fix - Jump

+Unofficial Patch

*Unmanaged: FalloutNV_lang

*Unmanaged: GunRunnersArsenal

*Unmanaged: CaravanPack

*Unmanaged: TribalPack

*Unmanaged: MercenaryPack

*Unmanaged: ClassicPack

*Unmanaged: LonesomeRoad

*Unmanaged: OldWorldBlues

*Unmanaged: DeadMoney

*Unmanaged: HonestHearts

*Unmanaged: FalloutNV

[dubiousintent]

You are using Lutana v19.0. FYI: That version drops the older method of reporting it's version to calling scripts. so it may not work correctly (as "does not exist") with some old mods that have not been updated to work with the new method yet.

 

You have several mods that overwrite XML files, including Vanilla UI+. The install order is key to their success. Please read the "HUD-UI-Menu issues" wiki article. For your purposes, I'm guessing that you should treat VUI+ as if it were DarnUI in that article, with further adjustments as pointed out in the install instructions:

 

VUI+ should lose conflicts over the “interfaceshared.tai” file except from the One HUD mod. You can safely allow VUI+ to overwrite this file from oHUD.

 

 

-Dubious-

[cethien]

I reordered the hud mods like for darn ui (watched gopher again) and downgraded to lutana 18.5, still not workin. What version do i need?

[dubiousintent]

Lutana v18.5 should be properly detected. (Works for me.)

 

Suggest you look into "Checklist item #4" in the "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide and enable the NVSE logging capability. Then see if that log sheds any light on why oHUD doesn't seem to be working.

 

I'd be interested in hearing what actually solves the issue. As pointed out in the "HUD-UI-Menu issue" article, some experimentation may be required to hit upon the correct install order. VUI+ is more recent than either the Gopher video or that article.

 

-Dubious-

[cethien]

So i think its blocked cause lutana cant be detected. 19, 18.3 doesnt work, i cant find any other versions. The last i hab before updating was i think 16.3 or so (i save my mods and last time i saved was 2016 in mid july or so)

[dubiousintent]

oHUD itself only requires NVSE, so it is not being blocked by Lutana. And all versions of Lutana prior to v19 use the same method of reporting their version to plugins requesting the information. Using an older version simply means you won't have added functionality provided by later versions, which won't matter unless a plugin requires it (which version it should specify among it's requirements).

 

Oh, wait! Just realized you don't have UIO in your load order. You need that to stitch together the various HUD elements between VUI+ and oHUD (and others), as recommended by both. Include that mod and try again.

 

-Dubious-

[axonis]

Excellent suggestions by Dubious. VUI+ has two conflicts with oHUD:

 

1) The interfaceshared.tai file which enables the optional "no undiscovered locations" feature and a fix for filled squares on list items in New Vegas. I have merged oHUD additions to this file so it's always best to overwrite it when asked.

 

2) A special patch for oHUD and JIP CC&C. This is silently installed if oHUD is detected and allows oHUD to work with JIP CC&C. This isn't really required by VUI+ and can work for plain vanilla users as well. It does not affect the operation of oHUD in any way, just allows JIP CC&C to insert its own code into the HUD.

 

So, overwriting oHUD with VUI+ will actually improve oHUD.