Something bugging "Dragon Rising"

[metsuricloud]

So I have a very heavily modded Skyrim (326 mods, 168 esm/esp) and my Mod List and Load Order are below in pastebins to reduce post size. I haven't had a single CTD related to any of the animation changes, DSR, Convenient horses/mounted combat, or any such thing which tend to have delicate installation. However... I can do pretty much every sidequest that I have come across including the Companions without issue. The issue arises in the main quest for which when I have the Bleak Falls Barrow quest and no matter whether I grab the dragonstone before dragonreach or go to DR first and then go get the dragonstone, I end up in two different scenarios with the same end problem. Irileth is nowhere to be seen and teleporting to her location has her nowhere either. So naturally, neither Irileth nor the scout will show up to initiate "Dragon Rising (mq104)" in the main quest to kill the first dragon and get my first dragon soul.

When I go to Bleak Falls first, Delphine isn't in her combat gear but still in her innkeeper gear from Riverwood and is bent over Farengar's desk with no book. Upon giving Farengar the stone, Irileth doesn't come, nor does the scout to announce the dragon and the usual go see the Jarl for your reward doesn't even happen. Using the console to startquest/setstage for dragon rising or resetting BFB and reinitiating the turnin manually does nothing (one possible fix as mentioned by the wiki for said quest).

I have created 3 fresh games and tried the quest using no fast travel, fast traveling away and back after each stage, and one specifically to test out console command remedies. All 3 games fail to start Dragon Rising using 3 different Alternative Start scenarios.

I suspect a mod is the culprit because I have seen multiple posts online regarding Dovakiin hideout bugging the quest (but I have never had nor have that mod) and that mods which edit lydia (whiterun housecarl), Irileth, and/or the scout can bug it or make them disappear.

I have noticed one thing and that is one mod must change the whiterun (not dragonreach) fast travel because it takes me to the bridge just east of where you first see the companions fighting the giant during your first run to Whiterun.

I know it is a big list and one thing I was going to try but can't for 2 days is removing "beautiful whiterun" as it seems to be the mod that edits the town the most as most of my others are textures.

I already tried disabling Bjiin all in one, warmaidens, wives, and npcs but I may need to disable it before even starting the Bleak Falls Quest because beautiful white run and the Bjiin mods are the only ones that I think truly overhaul the housecarl, Irileth, and maybe the scouts pathing in whiterun.

I still don't get why it wont let me use the console to neither startquest nor setstage/completequest for mq103/mq104 and just console in my first dragon soul so high Hrothgar will yell at me.

If anyone has had this issue and found a remedy, I would greatly appreciate it as it will be a pain to reconfigure over 300 mods or go 1 by 1 to see which is the culprit :(. Though I would naturally check new lands/quests/overhauls first.

 

Mod List:
http://pastebin.com/gLq1mqHL

Load Order:

http://pastebin.com/DiZ4rfd1

[simtam]

@"Irileth is nowhere to be seen and teleporting to her location has her nowhere either." - this is working as intended, it happens so in normal vanilla game - Irileth is enabled back just for intro scene.

 

You need to check other members of jarl's Balgruuf court, including his kids.

[cdcooley]

You might be able to find it by loading your entire mod list in to TESVEdit (which is the default) and look at which mods are editing those quests.

[metsuricloud]

I'll try both of those things. I just noticed with loot that Pretty Whiterun has 81 ITM and 2 deleted references but the mod info says not to clean and others say it causes issues with heavy mod loads. I have 3 saves, so going to try and disable it and do the quest to see what happens, maybe even go up through MQ104 with Bjiin and Pretty WR disabled on a new game then enable from then on.

[metsuricloud]

Using TES5edit I noticed that Unique Shops and Stores edits the X/Y/Z coordinates of the book in Farengars room and the mod page states that some people have had issues with dialogue between Farengar and the Jarl around the time of the dragonstone (for which my Jarl just stares at his map upstairs saying the same 3 chat options).

In addition, Immersive college of winterhold and opulant robe replacers along with the opulant patch makes changes to Farengar.

Finally, Bijiin is confirmed to change both female npcs that have various roles in and around MQ103-104.

Guess I'll try disabling and trying both a new and existing save (clean it if necessary) and reactivate afterwords.

[metsuricloud]

I got everything working. I simply deleted and remade my merge and bashed patches and it worked fine after that. I probably made a dumb mistake and did my Merge, bash, Dyndolod, DSR, and FNIS in the wrong order or forgot to deactivate a necessary patch when making one. But it all works now.