Crashing after defeating Jyggalag when entering the Palace for the pri

[Dakaned]

Hey all, been looking everywhere for help on this problem and so far I have had no luck :/ Anyway to go into more detail during the end mission for shivering isles after defending the palace from the forces of order and defeating Jyggalag (and listening to him talk) when I enter the palace to talk to Haskill (or leave the courtyard and go anywhere for that matter) I crash seconds later.

 

edit: Almost forgot also checked if it was a-bomb glitch (only have around 80+ atm ) and that didn't help as well

 

I have tried coming in a different direction/tried out running the crash to talk to him/ tried just leaving the isles but I just crash every time... this is my first time really playing shivering isles or oblivion for that matter really hope my first run doesn't end in a bug like this

 

 

Also not sure if this will help but here is some info on my pc/game

 

Playing the Oblivion Goty deluxe steam verision

 

Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506)

System Model: HP Pavilion g6 Notebook PC

BIOS: InsydeH2O Version CCB.03.61.17F.34

Processor: AMD A6-3400M APU with Radeon HD Graphics (4 CPUs), ~1.4GHz

Memory: 4096MB RAM

Available OS Memory: 3562MB RAM

 

Below are the list of mods I use

 

 

−Script Extender And Script Extender Plugins

OBSE Version: 0.0.20.6

CustomSpellIcons.dll

Elys_USV.dll

FastExit2.dll

OBSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll

obse_jail_fix.dll

OBSE_Kyoma_MenuQue.dll

−Recognised And Re-ordered Plugins

Oblivion.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm Version 3.7b3p3

TamrielTravellers.esm Version 1.39c

Oblivifall Master File.esm Version 1.2

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Version 3.4.1

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Version 1.0.0

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Version 1.5.0

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.7

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.5

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.7

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.5

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.1

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.10

Mart's Monster Mod.esp Version 3.7b3p3

Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp Version 3.7b3p3

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp Version 3.7b3p

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp Version 3.7b3p3

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp Version 3.7b3p3

Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp Version 3.7b3p3

Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced.esp Version 3.7b3p3

Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp Version 3.7b3p3

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp Version 3.7b3p3

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp Version 3.7b3p3

Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp Version 3.7b3p3

Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp Version 3.7b3p3

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp Version 3.7b3p3

Travellers4MMMHostileFactions.esp Version 1.39c

TamrielTravellersItemsUnscaled.esp Version 1.39c

ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp Version 1.39c

ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp Version 1.39c

EM_RedRoseManor.esp Version 2.0

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp Version 1.6.

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.6

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.6

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.1.2

Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp Version 3.7b3p3

Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp Version 1.43

Oblivifall - Losing My Religion KOTN.esp Version 1.0

xuldarkforest.esp Version 1.0.5

xulStendarrValley.esp Version 1.2.2

xulTheHeath.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp Version 1.3.1

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp Version 1.2.1

xulChorrolHinterland.esp Version 1.2.2

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp Version 1.6.4

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp Version 1.3.3

xulLushWoodlands.esp Version 1.3.1

xulAncientYews.esp Version 1.4.3

xulAncientRedwoods.esp Version 1.6

xulCloudtopMountains.esp Version 1.0.3

xulArriusCreek.esp Version 1.1.3

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp Version 1.1

xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp Version 1.3.3

xulPantherRiver.esp Version 1.1.1

xulRiverEthe.esp Version 1.0.2

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp Version 1.1.1

xulImperialIsle.esp Version 1.6.7

xulBlackwoodForest.esp Version 1.1.0

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp Version 1.0.1

xulAspenWood.esp Version 1.0.2

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp Version 1.0.1

xulSnowdale.esp Version 1.0.4

xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp Version 1.12

xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp Version 1.0.2

xulJerallGlacier.esp Version 1.0.0

xulTheEasternPeaks.esp Version 1.0

Better dungeons.esp Version Beta 1.0

HUD Status Bars.esp Version 5.3.2

BIE.esp Version 1.24

SupremeMagicka.esp Version 0.90b

SM_ShiveringIsles.esp Version 0.90

SM_DLCSpellTome.esp Version 0.90

SM_MMM.esp Version 0.90

SM_EnchantStaff.esp Version 0.90

SM_Scrolls.esp Version 0.90

SM_SigilStone.esp Version 0.90

MidasSpells.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp Version 7.3.5

Duke Patricks - Melee Combat NO RECOIL.esp Version 5.9

Oblivion XP.esp Version 4.1.5

1em_Vilja.esp Version 4.04

1em_Vilja MMM FCOM Fix.esp Version 3.0.1

ViljainRedRoseManor.esp Version 1.2

Bashed Patch, 0.esp Version 1/29/2012 9:41:46 AM

 

Edited January 30, 2012 by Dakaned

[Lazuri]

I'd try sorting with BOSS first, and if that doesn't do anything you should temporarily disable all plugins related to Shivering Isles, including the Unofficial Patch and see if the problem persist. Crash upon certain cells are almost always plugin related. Hope it helps.

[Dakaned]

Hey Lazuri thanks for the reply. I'll try disabling the SI plugins now. and I'm using boss already so I at least got one part taken care of hope this works anyway thanks again

 

 

Edit: well unless I missed a SI plugin.. I still end up crashing even with them disabled :/ again thanks for the help though

Edited January 30, 2012 by Dakaned

[Lazuri]

Hey Lazuri thanks for the reply. I'll try disabling the SI plugins now. and I'm using boss already so I at least got one part taken care of hope this works anyway thanks again

 

 

Edit: well unless I missed a SI plugin.. I still end up crashing even with them disabled :/ again thanks for the help though

 

Do the game crash if you enter any other cells other than Sheogorath's Palace? Like for instance, can you enter crucible, fast travel or save without crashing?

[Dakaned]

yeah It crashed when I tried fast traveling and entering different areas. Also when I was getting ready to disable the shivering isles patch I did the coc center command (before going into the courtyard for the last battle) and tried to save doing that I end up crashing and the save is corrupted.

[Lazuri]

By any chance, do you have http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=22282 installed? I once had a similar problem, and the fix was to remove it. If you don't use it though, perhaps it can fix the problem? It seems to have helped a lot of people.

 

It's also a shot in the dark, but it has helped me before: You could try disabling Ren's Guard Overhaul. It caused a CTD issue for me after the final battle of the main quest, perhaps it would do the same for Jyggalag?

 

If neither of this helps, I'm afraid your only option would be to deactivate everything but the bare minimum of the required mods for loading your game, and then reactivate them one by one or two by two to pinpoint which plugin is causing you to crash.

[Dakaned]

By any chance, do you have http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=22282 installed? I once had a similar problem, and the fix was to remove it. If you don't use it though, perhaps it can fix the problem? It seems to have helped a lot of people.

 

It's also a shot in the dark, but it has helped me before: You could try disabling Ren's Guard Overhaul. It caused a CTD issue for me after the final battle of the main quest, perhaps it would do the same for Jyggalag?

 

If neither of this helps, I'm afraid your only option would be to deactivate everything but the bare minimum of the required mods for loading your game, and then reactivate them one by one or two by two to pinpoint which plugin is causing you to crash.

 

 

After disabling Reneers overhaul that fixed the problem :) thanks for all the help lazuri

[DarthCruciare]

OH MY GOD. This crash kept me from advancing for about 2 years, and is the reason I stopped playing Oblivion altogether. I tried everything: cleaning my mods, right mod order, running BOSS. When I deactivated Ren's mod, it instantly worked. Thank you so much, I want to have your f*#@ing man babies, I can't believe this worked.

[MicheleMagus]

The problem is in Stage 195 of quest SE13.

The crash seems to be caused by trying to play the cloud and Jyggalag EFX backwards.

Remarking these lines out, or bypassing them by using moveto on the player. seems to fix it.

setstage se14 5
; enable doors out of Palace worldspace
SEDoorPalaceToBliss.enable
; turn fast travel back on
EnableFastTravel 1
; disable all obelisks
SetStage SEObelisks 200
player.moveto SE11HaskillMarker

;The MoveTo function effectively shorts (remarks out) out any line coming after it
; turn off cloud swirl
SE13JygaFXCloudSwirlREF.playgroup backward 1
; turn off light
SE13JygaFX01REF.playgroup backward 1

[osirisgothra]

This was the big deal breaker, when this happened, it was the end for me and oblivion. Because I quicksaved during his speech, and my other save is back before I even had the wand. I don't know why they didn't just have neat cutscenes with the option to skip, which would be far far far better IMO. Nothing here helped, and it has forever made me quit playing oblivion. It is quite sad really, seems oblivion is riddled and plagued with bugs, so many you can't even count. Then there are mods made by people who don't know what they are even doing, I don't use them. Why? Because it makes a buggy game even buggier, if 'twere even possible.