If there were a war of the races

[the_ragnarok702]

ok i dont know if i am the only one who has realized this but :angry2: IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT RACE YOU PICK THEY ALL CAN BE PERFECTED except the beast races. Nuff said

[Ancalagon]

ok i dont know if i am the only one who has realized this but  IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT RACE YOU PICK THEY ALL CAN BE PERFECTED except the beast races. Nuff said

 

 

Explain, do not just post a claim and have no support for it.

 

Good example of support for a claim, Rune's post. There is no 'right way' to judge how a war of the races would turn out. Only speculation and scenarios would work out, but by far I would say Rune has one of the best arguments thus far on this thread.

[the_ragnarok702]

ok i dont know if i am the only one who has realized this but  IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT RACE YOU PICK THEY ALL CAN BE PERFECTED except the beast races. Nuff said

 

 

Explain, do not just post a claim and have no support for it.

 

Good example of support for a claim, Rune's post. There is no 'right way' to judge how a war of the races would turn out. Only speculation and scenarios would work out, but by far I would say Rune has one of the best arguments thus far on this thread.

um first of all do you have a some what decently good character because if so you should know but any way ok you can get to infinite levels meaning you can get as much health/magicka as you want and your race does not matter this also means you can max out all your stats all races can do this. All races can max out there skills all races except beasts can get best equipment. there happy?

[saldrex]

ONe thing about rune's senarios is that they could not happenn since no races could join sidesb with others.

 

THE IMPERIALS WOULD LOOSE VERY FAST. Location plays a big role in this. They are in the middle and would most likely be destroyed for this reason. The are also too spread out to be able to hold their forces and would easily be crushes. As i have said earlier there would be a giant cleansing in all of the provinces leaving oly the natives left in their territories (this would destroy atleast 1/2 of the imperials on the continent). THe imperials with their small army (concisting of only the imperials left in their province) would not be able to conquer other people and only be able to defend their territory. Their province is also in the way and would be the first to go. If someone wanted to get to one ont the pther side the fastest way is through the imperials. Why go around when you have to fight the armores of a couple of races first and have a lack of men when you reached the enemie you were attacking.

 

When i compared them to the romans i did it because the romans were known to be quite organized and had some of the best tactics of their time. They were able to conquer most of the known world at the time. I also never said that the imperials and romans were the same but were similar. The barbarians were not greatly organized when they were just plowing through their lands. They were eventually were defeated after terroizing roman lands when their army split and went 2 different way. With out the help of the other half they were easily conquered and none were spared. The " barbarians" traveled in a a chain and would just charge in to battle and were just looters of vilages. The roman defeat that happened before that that i was refering to was when the romans went to conqure the northern lands. They were organized well and had good military tactics. They send in one group toi lure the enemies out and then attack them while they were running in at them as an ambush but the northerners charged in from all directions and surrond the romans and destoryed them in less thabn 3 days. The romans had lost all of the 15,000 soldiers that they had sent. After all the romans were sacraficed to the germanic god oden. The army that terrorised the roman emprie was origionally a samll tribe that looted villages but grew as other kept joining them as they searched for new land and eventually had great nubers.

 

I mentioned all of this because the romans were known to be a very organized and diciplined army and they were almost concidered to be an invincible army before they had ventured north. The imperials are very similar to the romans nad the romans were conquered by the germanic tribes of the north.

[saldrex]

ONe thing magica only increases with intelegence not level. The only thing tied to level is health that goes up no matter what when you level.

[saldrex]

Another thing abouth the imperials is that they Have not conquered all of the lands quite a few were don with treaties and no war had actually occured. Also the imperial have never taken on all the races at one but have when trying to conquer others have concentrated their army on one. THey have not conquered all the provinces they have jus been accepted as a new leader annd nothing more in most of the provinces. The dunmer were the only ones who actually tried to resist when the empire was attacking them. This was also the only land left that was unaccepting of the imperials by treaty or by force. Both the imperials and dunmer lost many people and in the end the dunmer decided to sign the the treaty probably because the imperials had many more reasoucs from all the provinces that they controlled. The imperials could recover faster with their extra reasouces than the dunmer with all their extra reasources, but in the all out war in this thread they would have noe of the extra reasources from any of the other provinces.

[wesaynothin]

Let me specify something.

 

During the Imperial's rampage of conqueiring, they had a weapon that beat all others. They had the Numidium. The empire fought off countless armies with this powerful machine, powered by the Heart of Lorkhan. You, the Nerevarine, HAVE DESTROYED THE HEART OF LORKHAN. THE IMPERIALS NO LONGER POSE ANY THREAT. (I know someone said this a couple of pages before, I am just restating it)

 

1. Imperials- Though their armies are large and disciplined, they no longer have Numidium. No one knows who should take claim to Emperor (Ebonheart- 'Latest Rumors') , so the Imperial City is full of cheap scum fighting for major lords, none of which are paying attention to anything besides the throne. The Generals, not knowing who to follow, split up in different groups. The lack of orginization and hatred before different factions not just lead to horrible defeats to guerilla attacks, but at some points cause fights between different Imperial Legions.

Status-Death

 

2. Bretons- They stay smart. They stay up in Hammerfall protecting their borders. They breaks any invaders. While neighbors armies are away, they might even carve out some more land for themselves. But they stay smart, and stay in Hammerfall.

Status-Survival/Gain Land

 

3. Redguard- The Redguards, noticing the Nords are focusing on their eastern border , march across Hammerfell to attack Skyrim. The Nords, caught by surprise, are dealt massive damage. The Redguards don't finish them off, but join the march to Cyrodil. There, their armies are fought back (barely), and suffer major damage escaping through the Hammerfell/Skyrim line.

Status: Survival. Loss of land. Massive loss in army.

 

Secondary opion for Redguards:

 

Hire themselves out as mercenaries. Always works ;) .

 

4. Argonians- They and the Khajits join together, smartly noticing their weaknesses alone. They get led off to deal with the Khajits dear enemy, the Bosmer. The combination of Argonian and Khajit easily break the Bosmer. There, they smarlty remain.

Status-Survival. Gain of Land. Gain of dear ally.

 

5. Khajits- See Argonians (4).

 

6. Nords- Noticing the outbreak of war, the Nords take the chance to attack their worst enemies, the Dunmer. The Nords take the Bitter Coast with ease, but lose horribly trying to trek through the Molag Mar region. Not to mention the attack of the Redguards, weakening them too much. Spread to thing, the Nords are defeated within a few decisive battles.

 

Status- Death

 

7. Orcs- The Orcs, loyal to the Empire, join the legion. Strong, but extremely stupid, by the time they realize they are in the middle of a political war, they are wiped out.

 

Status- Dead

 

8. Bosmer- See Khajits (5)

 

Status- Dead

9. Altmer- Smart, like the Bretons, they attack only once. And that, only Stros M'kai, an island sitting in the middle of the Abecean sea. After that, they sit contendedly.

 

Status- Survival. Gain of Land.

 

10. Dunmer- After the intital attack of the Nords, the Dunmer recover. Readying for more fighting, the five (Yes, five. people always forget Dres and Indoril) Great Houses join together under the Nerevarine (Hortator). With them, Vivec, (Almalexia if you don't have Tribunal), the Daedra, and the Daedric Gods, the Dunmer create a very workable counter-offensive. They quickly wipe up what's left of Skyrim, and finally head south to end the siege at Cyrodil. After taking Cyrodil, the armies are decemated within Valenwood, Elsweyr, and the Black Marsh. they retreat back to Cyrodil, and stay there, happily.

 

Status- Survival. Gain of lands.

 

 

 

 

Overall:

 

Most Land Conquered: Khajits/Argonians

Holding Cyrodil:Dunmer

 

DEFEATED: Imperial, Orcs, Nords

 

(EDIT: there were many posts while I wrote this, so don't yell at me if I overlooked some ones post)

[saldrex]

One thing though, NONE OF THE RACES CAN JOIN FORCES. It has been stated many times and it is what this thread was created on. All the races have to fight for themselves and are against all other races.

 

The inperial capital would not be able to hold their grounds at all. THe "cleansing" would occur in all of the provinces and would wipe ot atleast 1/2 of all the imperials. The imperial province with only 1/2 of their people would not be able to hold their lands against the armies of the others.

 

THe imperial capital would quickly fall.

[wesaynothin]

The only point where I made tewo races join together is Argonian/Khajit. And since we ALL know what happens to them if they dont join together, there was no point in stating it again.

 

Oh yeah, and

  One thing though, NONE OF THE RACES CAN JOIN FORCES. It has been stated many times and it is what this thread was created on. All the races have to fight for themselves and are against all other races.

never happens in real life. Alliance happen, like it or not.

[saldrex]

This threead is created under the fact of no a liances for this war. If you read the first post it states this. Also i think that they beast races could probably hold their ground on their own quite wll. The argonians in the arsh could easily hid under watter and ambush many fores who enter their lands. There is much that the beast races can do unlike how you put them as having no chance on their own.