Skyie Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Yo, so I don't know if this is a right place for this kind of question but it seemed the most suitable one... So I like to play Skyrim in all it's beauty. Meaning that, believing that my computer might be able to go through with it, I put all of the graphic settings to it's maximum + downloaded some mods like HD Skyrim to make it look nice. As the rumor goes though, there's no hope in playing Skyrim with fancy grapchis if you don't use the Skyrim 4gb thingy. So I downloaded it via fileplanet, set it up and run it. Well the thing is that the game is still lagging a little bit. Now it wouldn't surprise me if it was just my computer being too weak for the task, but I noticed that Skyrim, even though I launch the 4gb icon, uses 1,6 gb ram at most. Shouldn't it be able to use more? Also, I heard that with around similar specs as mine you could run Skyrim fluidly, even with full graphics. I thought something went wrong with my setup so I downloaded that program (which name I don't remember anymore) to go and tweak my TESV application by checking "can use more ram" or something from it (found these instructions somewhere in the internet which were made probably before the time of downloadable 4gb icon) but it was originally checked. My computer's specs below: CPU: i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40 ghzRAM: 8 ghzGPU: geforce GTX 580 HDD: Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB I'd appreciate if someone can help, I'm being a little desperate here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micalov Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 The 4 gig patch is not required anymore since the patch around Xmas added 4 gig support. It does not mean it will use 4 gig though, it just allows it to use that amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rennn Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 You probably mean 8GB of RAM, not 8Ghz. But yeah, the 4GB mod is totally irrelevant now. The official updates added 4GB support. HD Skyrim can cause some series lag, so that could be the problem. ENB series is generally a much better of use of processing power for increasing graphics, unless you play at a huge resolution. VSYNC will cause some lag as well, but I'm not sure if that's the kind of lag you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amirrezasepehr Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 If you want better performance, download confident enb performance version (the one without SSAO). I basically have the same stats as your computer (Intel i7 2600K, MSI NGTX 580 Lightning, G-Skill 8GB RAM, Kingston SSDNow V200 128GB) and this fixed it for me. I was using confident ENB before with SSAO and I would get frame rates around 20-40 with the 1.3 patch. I removed SSAO and now I get 45-60 in Whiterun (because I have switched it to a 120HZ monitor, it actually jumps to about 70-120fps in some areas inside buildings and small caves) with the 1.4 patch. Patch it with 1.4 and you'll get a massive frame rate boost. You can still mod with it. I have so many mods on this game right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyie Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) You probably mean 8GB of RAM, not 8Ghz. But yeah, the 4GB mod is totally irrelevant now. The official updates added 4GB support. HD Skyrim can cause some series lag, so that could be the problem. ENB series is generally a much better of use of processing power for increasing graphics, unless you play at a huge resolution. Yeah sorry, I'm kinda noob with this stuff. But I thought so, thanks anyway. I haven't even heard about this ENB series, and looked it up now, but I'm kinda confused. So does it also cover all graphics in Skyrim? And if it doesn't lag while HD Skyrim does, does it mean it's "not so good looking" then? I wonder if I should use it, cause besides HD Skyrim I've installed various mods like quality bodies etc, so I wonder how much does ENB actually replace. VSYNC will cause some lag as well, but I'm not sure if that's the kind of lag you're talking about. I heard this from my friend but actually I never found VSync option from Skyrim? It isn't in the graphics settings in the beginning nor is it in game? If you want better performance' date=' download confident enb performance version (the one without SSAO). I basically have the same stats as your computer (Intel i7 2600K, MSI NGTX 580 Lightning, G-Skill 8GB RAM, Kingston SSDNow V200 128GB) and this fixed it for me. I was using confident ENB before with SSAO and I would get frame rates around 20-40 with the 1.3 patch. I removed SSAO and now I get 45-60 in Whiterun (because I have switched it to a 120HZ monitor, it actually jumps to about 70-120fps in some areas inside buildings and small caves) with the 1.4 patch. Patch it with 1.4 and you'll get a massive frame rate boost. You can still mod with it. I have so many mods on this game right now. [/quote'] Wow I see. So do you also use HD Skyrim with it? If not then what graphics does ENB actually cover? Edited February 3, 2012 by Skyie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amirrezasepehr Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) Wow I see. So do you also use HD Skyrim with it? If not then what graphics does ENB actually cover? I prefer to use the Bump mods by Yuril which look better at distance, which is all that matters to me. Skyrim HD is incomplete so I won't use it until it's been completely remade. With Skyrim HD ill probably drop down to 30-50fps in the 1.3 patch. I haven't tried it on the 1.4 patch. The ENB series are shader enchancers. They improve shadows and lighting in the game. The SSAO is the shadowing aspect of the ENB and it is a huge performance hit. I suggest downloading the one without SSAO if you're only looking for nicer colors and better lighting. The performance hit is minimal. I get about 3fps less than normal and the game looks fantastic. Give it a try. P.S. I have Vsync on because of my monitor. Edited February 3, 2012 by amirrezasepehr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rennn Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) I don't use those bump map mods. They make everything look terrible up close and at all ranges they make stuff look shiny. To turn off VSYNC you can go into the Skyrimprefs.ini and... Okay, I forgot what to do. I'll tell you once I remember, lol. It's better looking, and it lags less. It sounds hard to believe, but the key here is optimization and card capabilities. Think of Oblivion; it's harder to run than Skyrim for me, and looks much worse. It's basically the same thing when comparing mods. ENB is much more efficient, and makes its effects much more readily apparent. Beyond ten feet, at most monitor resolutions, you lose all the benefit of high-res textures. They're still loaded into the distance though, so it's a massive hit. ENB looks great at any range though, adds much more appealing color depth, and does it without needing massive-resolution textures that devour VRAM and have minimal effects at most ranges. Edited February 3, 2012 by Rennn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyie Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 Aha thanks guys that sounds interesting, I guess I try it out. But should I just install it on top of Skyrim HD or remove something? Will it replace many textures in the game/texture files from other mods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rennn Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 It won't replace any textures aside from sunglare. Your computer will not perform any better if you stack it with Skyrim HD, of course. Installing ENB will hurt your framerate a bit on its own as well; the point was to get rid of Skyrim HD, install ENB instead, and therefore gain some fps and gain graphical quality. ENB won't give you better performance. Getting rid of Skyrim HD will give you much better performance, and ENB will just make your game look good without damaging your framerate as much as HD textures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyie Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 Aha yeah I get it, thanks for help. I downloaded some "confident ENB configs" and tried out the "performance" one. It looks nice. Now to find that damn vsync :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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