A little opinion on realism

[Ferodaktyl]

well, i take all this in the spirit in which was meant to, with no malice or hard feelings ( although with a ton of irony)

but...

let's consider a moment

how many would like to equip / unequip every piece of whatever they're wearing to - let's say - cross a river

or drink an ale

or leave half a ton of equipment in a dungeon because there's no believable way someone could carry such a load of metal, potions and whatnots around

of course, a very disciplined RPG-er can self-impose all this rule upon himself, and many others

personally i don't use fast travel, i try to eat in game at least 1/day, sleep, and so forth

yet most players (i believe) use a more casual approach to playing, and it would be at least annoying to impose this on them

i even didn't notice that female armors have tits until i've seen a post debating this on the forum :facepalm:

i guess my point would be ... idk... i think i forgot :confused:

[thesapien]

The "realism" issues people have with Skyrim always make me laugh.

 

There are a thousand (tens of thousands) of things in the game that are entirely unreal, that defy the laws of physics and chemistry, that are wholly impossible in the real world. So why is anyone upset or concerned that their PC can swim wearing full plate steel armour exactly the same as if wearing a speedo?

 

If the game followed any of the rules of reality, no one would play it because they'd be so frustrated, bored to death, or killed and not allowed to ever play the game again (dead is dead) in the first 3 minutes.

 

 

And I laugh at those who actually believe they know the laws of their universe. Skyrim "mythology" is actually heavily based on a old reality of people who once lived in our world. One day, there might be games for people based on the mythology of your reality. They will one day laugh at all the things you believed to be true.

[thesapien]

well, i take all this in the spirit in which was meant to, with no malice or hard feelings ( although with a ton of irony)

but...

let's consider a moment

how many would like to equip / unequip every piece of whatever they're wearing to - let's say - cross a river

or drink an ale

or leave half a ton of equipment in a dungeon because there's no believable way someone could carry such a load of metal, potions and whatnots around

of course, a very disciplined RPG-er can self-impose all this rule upon himself, and many others

personally i don't use fast travel, i try to eat in game at least 1/day, sleep, and so forth

yet most players (i believe) use a more casual approach to playing, and it would be at least annoying to impose this on them

i even didn't notice that female armors have tits until i've seen a post debating this on the forum :facepalm:

i guess my point would be ... idk... i think i forgot :confused:

 

My character actually does some stuff like that, like leaving armor and weapons. She'll look at that nice ebony battle axe, consider lugging it around, its value, how far to the nearest trader, etc. The benefit is that it allows my character to focus her leveling and not just level up things like speechcraft (when selling so many looted items), avoid hording, and it's still hard NOT to get rich, no matter what you do, really.

Edited February 4, 2012 by thesapien

[alienraven]

And I laugh at those who actually believe they know the laws of their universe. Skyrim "mythology" is actually heavily based on a old reality of people who once lived in our world. One day, there might be games for people based on the mythology of your reality. They will one day laugh at all the things you believed to be true.

 

 

we do know the basic laws of the universe dumbass cus men much smarter than you or i have figued them out.

[thesapien]

And I laugh at those who actually believe they know the laws of their universe. Skyrim "mythology" is actually heavily based on a old reality of people who once lived in our world. One day, there might be games for people based on the mythology of your reality. They will one day laugh at all the things you believed to be true.

 

 

we do know the basic laws of the universe dumbass cus men much smarter than you or i have figued them out.

 

That just speaks for itself in so many ways.

[Ferodaktyl]

My character actually does some stuff like that, like leaving armor and weapons. She'll look at that nice ebony battle axe, consider lugging it around, its value, how far to the nearest trader, etc. The benefit is that it allows my character to focus her leveling and not just level up things like speechcraft (when selling so many looted items), avoid hording, and it's still hard NOT to get rich, no matter what you do, really.

 

i've never met a RPG-er who doesn't hoard, so, my dear sir ( or missus), you must be a fake :tongue:

[thesapien]

My character actually does some stuff like that, like leaving armor and weapons. She'll look at that nice ebony battle axe, consider lugging it around, its value, how far to the nearest trader, etc. The benefit is that it allows my character to focus her leveling and not just level up things like speechcraft (when selling so many looted items), avoid hording, and it's still hard NOT to get rich, no matter what you do, really.

 

i've never met a RPG-er who doesn't hoard, so, my dear sir ( or missus), you must be a fake :tongue:

 

I would never say, "Am I the only one who...." because it's never true in regards to things like this.

 

My current character has no desire of a home, more coin than she could spend, prefers making her own stuff, mostly only loots more coins, though not sure why at this point, and even does stuff like return an enchanted amulet to the corpse of a young female Breton who I found right after killing some bandits and reading her journal about risking her life going after these bandits who stole her family amulet. But, seriously, I can't be the only who plays characters like this. Else, we've got a problem with hording and gamers. I'd hate to see your house in real life.

[benny00000]

we do know the basic laws of the universe dumbass cus men much smarter than you or i have figued them out.

 

I laugh at the notion of anyone believing that mankind has the universe figured out. So many theories we have long held true have end up being debunked & rethought. As stated before, many many years from now people will laugh at what we hold to be true. We are limited by our current technology/resources & indifference. Until mankind as a whole can come together & work in unison toward the exploration of the stars it will remain this way.

[Rennn]

We do know the current laws of our universe, for the most part. I know my way around physics and old-earth theories. Of course, physics get wonky when you start dealing with black holes and the distant past ('distant' as in, 'before matter theoretically existed in the state it does now').

 

Humans, however, have only existed for our current physical laws. It would be hopelessly false to say that our young species has borne witness to alternate laws of reality, as our species is only capable of surviving in a three-dimensional (New theories think of some aspects of reality as a 2D projection) temporal (bound by linear time) plane.

 

In short, we only know how the universe treats humanity, and beyond that we remain blind. Hopefully we'll be able to clear that up in a few more centuries. Right now, scientists have quite a good grasp of the current universe. The versions that existed earlier/later, if time can even be considered (the progression of time itself changes around black holes, for example), we know little of.

Edited February 5, 2012 by Rennn

[Raffer]

I know that it somehow became a sacred cow to say that you can wear a full suit of iron or steel plate AND just walk down a dusty lane.

Except that you CAN'T.

You can't put it on all by yourself.

You can't just mount a horse, you need help from strong people and a winch.

It was extremely heavy.

Now you can also carry a large backpack with who-knows how many pounds of other things and food...well, no you can't.

Heavy armor is used to intimidate, not for actual fighting.

You can't swim while wearing anything heavier than cloth "armor".

 

That is why women usually wear steel-plated bikinis in those games. Because it is more realistic ;)

 

Seriously, it is a game, not a simulation. I play to have fun and this involves doing things that would not work or probably kill me in real life.