Tiphareth Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 from my understanding, any race that has a name with the suffix 'mer' is elvein. mer means "men"on another note the Chimer became the Dunmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_Skeelz Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 mer means "men"on another note the Chimer became the DunmerMer does not mean "men", it seems to translate roughtly to elf. Thats why whenever your talking to Molag Bal, Dagoth Ur, or just about anyone else, they refer to "Man and Mer", i.e. "Man and Elf". And yes, your right on the Chimer->Dunmer part. There are no Chimer left, perhaps with the exception of the Tribunal. Azura cursed the Chimer after the Battle of Red Mountain, turning them into the Dunmer. Before then the Chimer were simply Altmer migrants who had followed the prophet Veloth out of the Summerset Isles to Morrowind. So yes you could argue that at one point or another there was an elven subspecies named "The Chimer". But to take that point to an extreme all elves to the best of my knowledge are simply offshoots of the Altmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmac Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 mer means "men"on another note the Chimer became the DunmerMer does not mean "men", it seems to translate roughtly to elf. Thats why whenever your talking to Molag Bal, Dagoth Ur, or just about anyone else, they refer to "Man and Mer", i.e. "Man and Elf". Actually, it literally does translate to 'men.' Just as Betmeri translated to Beast Men. Figuratively, it means 'elf.' So, from a technical standpoint, "Man and Mer" means "men and men." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramses niblik 3 Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 does it really matter how many elves there are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Thief Oriana Posted February 24, 2004 Author Share Posted February 24, 2004 No, I just thought it would be an interesting point to ramble on and on about. (>.< D*** N00B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsisis Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 I think the quote "men and mer" is referring to men and elves, maybe just a cheap translation job at Bethesda? I read previously that the dai-katana was really a mistranslated japanese blade. I'm just going to pretend mer=elf when im playing the game, so it makes sense. (off-topic, please don't hurt me)While on the discussion of races, what of the nords? I imagine men and elves could have came from the "earth bones" *forget the name* race. But the Nords are supposedly children of the sky, could they be another odd prophecy of a god? (Orcs and Dunmer both were morphed from pure divinity... i think). If this is too off topic than just ignore it :whistling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Thief Oriana Posted February 24, 2004 Author Share Posted February 24, 2004 Hey, It's on topic now I suppose. I dunno, maybe they just like to call themselves "Children of the Sky". To the best of my knowledge, however, they are men. You wouldn't be able to tell because they are taller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmac Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Nords ARE men. The Ehlnofey are ancestors of both man and mer, bus still exist themselves. It's like a partial evolution. Nords DO consider themselves to be the children of the sky. They call Skyrim the Throat of the World, because it is where the sky exhaled on the land and formed them. They see themselves as eternal outsiders and invaders, and even when they conquer and rule another people; they feel no kinship with them. The breath and the voice are the vital essence of a Nord. When they defeat great enemies they take their tongues as trophies. These are woven into ropes and can hold speech like an enchantment. The power of a Nord can be articulated into a shout, like the kiai of an Akaviri swordsman. The strongest of their warriors are called "Tongues." When the Nords attack a city, they take no siege engines or cavalry; the Tongues form in a wedge in front of the gatehouse, and draw in breath. When the leader lets it out in a kiai, the doors are blown in, and the axemen rush into the city. Shouts can be used to sharpen blades or to strike enemies. A common effect is the shout that knocks an enemy back, or the power of command. A strong Nord can instill bravery in men with his battle-cry, or stop a charging warrior with a roar. The greatest of the Nords can call to specific people over hundreds of miles, and can move by casting a shout, appearing where it lands. The most powerful Nords cannot speak without causing destruction. They must go gagged, and communicate through a sign language and through scribing runes. The further north you go into Skyrim, the more powerful and elemental the people become, and the less they require dwellings and shelters. Wind is fundamental to Skyrim and the Nords; those that live in the far wastes always carry a wind with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsisis Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 So they really evolved, and "children of the sky" it's just some odd catchphrase (or relating to homeland's location). So the orcs got a cool creation, as did the dark elves... The Nords just did boring evolution, and have odd myths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acoran Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 I'm pretty sure there are seven in the ElserScroll seris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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