Khajiit eyes stretched

[MelchiorDahrk]

I have a few of the popular beautification mods installed right now. And I get this distracting glitch where the khajiit eyes are stretched too far over the eye mesh.

 

Here's how it looks

 

And here's my mod list:

 

 

Oblivion.esm

TR_OoT_Main.esm

Hammerfell.esm

Open Cities Resources.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

Toaster Says Share v3.esm

Sheogorad.esm

TNR - THE IMPERIALS.esp

TNR - THE BRETONS.esp

TNR - THE ALTMER.esp

TNR - THE NORDS.esp

TNR - THE ORCS.esp

TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp

TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Idle Dialogue.esp

LightsOut.esp

Cities Alive At Night.esp

AliveWaters.esp

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

autosavertest.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

diversegrasses.esp

RAEVWD Cities.esp

RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp

RAEVWD Imperial City.esp

Streamline 2.1.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

Book Jackets DLC.esp

EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

Adonnays Elven Longblades.esp

Alir'sArmor.esp

Blakeley's Lachrymal Bow.esp

DaedricCrescentBlade.esp

DMCWeapons.esp

FineWeapons.esp

GizBladeset01OB.esp

Gizmodian - Vicious Heart.esp

Gizmodian-VeraxanimaOblivion.esp

KDCirclets.esp

M.O.E. - New Staffs, Blight and Ashstorms.esp

NexonsArmoryENG.esp

Nicos Dread Doomshard Bow.esp

Nico's Quinga Bows.esp

PTArtifacts.esp

PureSteelBlade.esp

RustyItems.esp

Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp

sluggosilkdancer.esp

tda_Armoury.esp

The Bow of the Hunter.esp

Underworld Armor.esp

Vvardenfell_Imports.esp

R18PN - Dancer's Dress.esp

R18PN - Fiona Armor.esp

R18PN - FuruFuru Armor.esp

R18PN - Leere Armor.esp

R18PN - Mina Armor.esp

Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

OMOBS_SI.esp

OOO-Armor.esp

EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp

cyrodiil transportation network wz.esp

cyrodiil transportation network 1.3 wz.esp

Cyrodiil Transportation Network WZ OC.esp

OC+CTN Patch.esp

BrotherhoodRenewed.esp

(DC) Sutch Reborn.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

OCC-KR-Patch.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp

M.O.E. - Tools of Kagrenac - The Secret of White Gold Tower.esp

M.O.E. - The Black Sacrament - Night Mother's Ritual.esp

Return Of Shadows.esp

Sheogorad.esp

TheElderCouncil.esp

Ushnar's Re-Skinned Hound.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCfrostcrag.esp

OCOD+FrostcragSpire Patch.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Book Jackets.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp

M.O.E. - Visit Valen Dreth Topic.esp

OCC-KOTN-Patch.esp

Daedric Shrine Ruins.esp

The Lost Chapel.esp

ElsweyrAnequina.esp

HammerfellBorders.esp

PTMudwater.esp

ReclaimSancreTor.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp

xulRollingHills_EV.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

Brena River Ravine Daedric Shrine Ruins Patch.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

xulSnowdale.esp

xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp

xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp

ImpeREAL Empire Unique Cities - Sutch.esp

Open Cities New Sheoth.esp

Open Cities Classic.esp

Open Cities Outer Districts.esp

Open Cities new script for city doors.esp

OCC-OOO-Patch.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

ANB_No_FastTravel.esp

EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp

Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp

M.O.E. - Lycanthropy and Lichcraft.esp

M.O.E. - Vampire Clan Raelu.esp

M.O.E. - Levitation Magic.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp

MW Style Dremora.esp

Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

EVE_KhajiitFix.esp

Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp

Better Looking Dark Elves.esp

Better Looking Redguards v2.esp

Better Looking Wood Elves Vanilla Black Eyes.esp

[GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Staff of Magnus.esp

Stendarrs Hammer.esp

md_barrel of gold.esp

Mirage_Maple.esp

TribalPrincess.esp

Tehgnark.esp

md_SP_hairs.esp

DarkWindarmor1.esp

Better Cities Full - my edits.esp

Better Imperial City - my edits.esp

Cazy Hairs.esp

xulJerallGlacier.esp

SMTXKhajiitPawsAsAbility_v04RMHGEC.esp

RST+OCC Patch.esp

Blood Elves.esp

HEchasm00.esp

ElvenRacePack.esp

Streamline 3.1.esp

OBGE - Liquid Water.esp

Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp

Kani's Elves.esp

CuteElf11.esp

Synx.esp

Chocolate Elves.esp

 

 

 

So here's what I have tried so far. Which may not make sense or be much...

 

I tried separately deactivating all of these:

Natural Faces

Ren Beauty Pack

Bashed Patch

 

I then searched for the khajiit eye textures, found it in my Data folder, and removed them all. This did nothing. I put the textures back.

 

I tried finding the khajiit head mesh, but didn't have any luck.

 

fyi, this IS affecting both sexes of Khajiit. But NO other races are affected.

 

Please help!

Edited February 7, 2012 by ericthered1090

[DrakeTheDragon]

Don't have much time, so I can only give some pointers.

 

This is what's called "Googley Eyes". You can even search for this to get an abundance of occurances and fixes.

It is nothing wrong with the head mesh or the eye meshes and nothing's "stretching" anywhere. It's just the wrong textures used on the wrong meshes.

 

While eye textures can be different from selected eye color/type to eye color/type, eye meshes are 1 set for the whole race.

Googley eyes are most often caused by some beautification mod like EE (Elaborate Eyes, I think) carelessly replacing the Vanilla eye meshes with ones with a totally different texture mapping (to enable 2 different eye textures, 1 for each eye, whereas Vanilla only had 1 for both eyes in the texture). So now any Vanilla, or any non-EE in general, eye textures aren't fitting anymore and the meshes overlay them totally wrong. That's what you're looking at in the screenshot.

 

Wrye Bash can fix this with a setting in the bashed patch, regarding EE eye meshes and compatibility. Getting rid of the beautification mod which introduced them and restoring the normal state/meshes should fix it, too.

For any further detailed instructions search for the term "googley eyes" (or "googly"), or wait until someone else posts something of more help here (I'll be back after 8 hours of sleep, most likely, if you weren't helped by then already).

 

edit: Oh, one more, the head mesh you were searching for is in "meshes/characters/Khajiit", but likely it wasn't even touched and as such can't be found in your folders. The eye meshes though should definitely be found inside there, as those are definitely altered files right now.

Edited February 7, 2012 by DrakeTheDragon

[MelchiorDahrk]

Thank you so much for your helpful reply DrakeTheDragon. I think what you've said should be enough for me to fix this issue. I'll have a go at it tonight and try and remember to repost if I solve it.

 

Thanks again!

[DrakeTheDragon]

Back and trying to figure out which of the mods you posted could have caused this. As it's only affecting Khajiit I'd say it must've something to do with mods only touching Khajiit at least.

There's quite a number of plugins loading after the bashed patch, isolating them from its grasp to maintain compatibility among them.

 

The EVE Khajiit Fix can be part of the trouble, as can be Slof's Better Beasts, but neither of them can be the cause.

This Khajiit Paws As Ability mod is loading outside of the bashed patch's grasp, and as such it is the superior plugin overriding most, if not all, other changes done to Khajiit (most likely back to Vanilla settings, but that's just guessing).

I'm still searching for the mod incorporating the mismatching eye meshes or textures. Maybe the Paws mod loading last reverts all eye texture options back to Vanilla only, while the meshes still require other textures no longer available now... but I still need to find the mod incorporating these first.

 

By another look at the screenshot the left eye uses the lower right quarter of the Vanilla eye texture and the right eye the upper right. If it was Vanilla eye meshes using double-eye textures, we'd see two eyes in one, as Vanilla eyes map over the whole texture. This supports it's the textures being Vanilla and the meshes... something else. Well, I know eye meshes mapping upper left quarter and lower right, or upper and lower half, but upper right and lower right is somewhat new to me. Which eye meshes could those be? Does anybody know? Time to take a closer look into those packages I got on my drive.

Edited February 7, 2012 by DrakeTheDragon

[MelchiorDahrk]

I've been doing some more looking around and I haven't found any solutions.

 

I tried removing that Khajiit Paws mod, but that did nothing to help. I also did a search for the eye meshes, I found none which seemed to alter the khajiit. I found some for human eyes, removed them, but nothing changed for the khajiit.

 

Searching for textures hasn't done anything either.

 

Obviously something I installed at one point must be doing this. I just can't find it.

 

I appreciate you continuing to help out with this Drake. Maybe someone else will have some light to shed on my predicament... otherwise I'll keep trying some things.

[MelchiorDahrk]

Alright... I fixed it.

 

After deselecting every mod in Bash didn't work, it was apparent that there must be left over files that were messing the Khajiit eyes up. Here's what I found in the files:

 

Something had replaced the Imperial eye meshes. Those had screwed up the khajiit eyes. However, after I removed those eye meshes; then the beast races were fine, but all the humans, elves, and orcs were messed up (googly eyes). So I hunted for the responsible textures. I found them in the Eyes texture folder under Characters. Removing all the eye textures in there resulted in everyone being fine except for the beast races :facepalm: so I left their textures in there.

 

This may have been a hacky fix, but I'm just happy to be able to look a Khajiit in the eyes again.

Edited February 9, 2012 by ericthered1090

[DrakeTheDragon]

Huh? Now that's a weird one for sure.

Oh well, if it's fixed, it's fixed. I just hope all this manually deleting the files some plugins might still reference to won't mess things up later on.

Sadly I couldn't find the real culprit among the mods in your list up to now. So I'm just glad you got it fixed on your own... some way. :sweat: