Water 17 or Enhanced Water?

[forli]

Actually I have all feature that you listed there except shaders. You can get them all without using OR.

I'm not sure there's another mod which fixes the "Rain roof bug", the "Crash returning main menu", the "Camera on feet after player's resurrection", and unlock the "Decal time", the "Grass distance settings", the "HDR + MSAA in the video option menu" and the "distance grass limitation to the 3x3 grid"

 

 

install OR but play without shaders? is that would satisfy you when you play OR without all feature?

OR is much more than "shaders" and "effects". It's an unofficial game patch which alter the very game C++ code to realize features no other esp/esm could ever achieve. Even without shaders, OR still apply a big amount of changes, including fixes to hardcoded bugs (bugs you can't fix with CS) and new features which esp/esm mods can only simulate with the limited capabilities of the CS scripts.

Mounted combat is something already seen in DR and UV... except it requires ugly workarounds and expensive scripts to achieve, while OR achieve it natively and with a negligible performance cost. Same for Dual Wield and Shield on back.

Windowed mode, FPS manager, Immersive camera... already seen, but they use either external tools or scripts, which are many times slower than OR's native C++ code.

For shaders, you could use the old OBGE (which is "4 times slower and heavier than OR"), or ENB (beautiful but heavy)

To make an example: in UV, when you hit someone with the left weapon, no real attack/hit is happening. It's just an animation with a simulation of the damage formula, but no "hit" is registered by the game. If a mod is waiting for some "Hit" event, it would not work with UV left attack.

 

 

some feature in OR can obtained from another similar mod(not all but almost). Some features that included in OR were from other mod. OR just like package. All in one.

That's the point: other mods use scripts. OR recreated them with C++ (waaaaaay much faster) and included them natively in the game engine.

To make an example: if I could recreate my mod HUD Status Bars in native game code (I lack the skill to do so), the performance hit would be drastically reduced by (minimum) 90%. And for an heavy mod like that, it would be a HUUUGE gain.

If you have enough CPU power to waste on heavy scripts, then good for you. I would turn my entire load order into C++ code and dll if I could.

 

 

So can I use oblivion Reloaded without shaders and visual effect?

If I didn't use shaders effect then can Water 17 work on Oblivion Reloaded at the same time?

Yes, as I said, OR is much more than "shaders" and "effects". It's very modular and you can choose the features you need (in your case, you can start by disabling the shaders/effects, if they are too much for your hardware)-

Yes, 17 replace the water textures and settings, while OR replace the water shaders. You should be able to use both them at once or either one of them alone.

I'm not sure about the underwater fog settings, as I recall OR override them to improve the underwater visibility.

Edited April 25, 2017 by forli

[DrakeTheDragon]

Or just do like I do and disable OR's water system only, as my virtualized graphics card in the Windows VM cannot be detected correctly and does not have a depth buffer as a result, so most, if not all, overlay shader effects can't work, and water becomes invisible or just a blur of colors at distance, and let Water 17 take care of everything water inside your game instead.

 

I'll be doing the same in a short while, but in my terms "short while" means several years, so I can't really give any feedback about how it worked out in a time where you're still alive around to read it.

[anonimousone]

I lurked inside this topic to see how arrogant you are. If It was my forum I would have banished you, and actually put via ads a spyware into your pc to permanently ban your hardware configuration from my website and make you unable to download any files from the nexus

 

The forum is a joke, you are right, but that's because no one seemed to complain about your shitty behaviour and everyone came here to help you and actually ignored that you deserve nothing

 

I had to post because I was actually surprised you weren't banned, people are for even less and you showed to be all over yourself by saying to forli that he was a drunk (aka soy sauce) and that he was wasting his words in a really offensive manner

 

Regards,

 

ah, you are actually one of these people that makes me regret we don't have a ignore feature in this forum

Edited April 25, 2017 by anonimousone

[DrakeTheDragon]

ah, you are actually one of these people that makes me regret we don't have a ignore feature in this forum

 

 

Actually, we do. From the pull-down from your avatar at the top click on Manage Ignore Prefs. There you go.

[Buayadaratganas]

Soy Sauce just a joke. When you make a joke and people not understand.

 

Water 17 invisible when I install Oblivion Reloaded. Seems no chance to use both at the same time. I can hear, swim but can't see water.

 

PS:

Sorry this is random photo from my phone gallery that just fit to set my profile pic.

Okay I will delete it.