Tinduriel Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 I'd say Im Agnostic too. Im still a christian, i have been babtised and all that. Well come to think at it I have to say rather that I don't know what I am. I like to believe that there is something after death. That's maybe because my mind cannot comprehend a state when I stop existing. But back to topic I dont have the will (i.e Im too lazy) to pray and obey some god figure. I cannot say with pure concsiense that I belong to some specific Religion. So I voted/chose the option Other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akrid Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 atheist isnt even a religion, its just a word christians made up to call us non-beleivers, its not like we pray for no god ....not that i even pray at all. :wacko: Perspective!!!!!!!! :veryangry: Opinion!!!!!!!!!!! :P Duhy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Belief or religion in a athiest perspective are the same, to a religious person only their religion is more than belief, it's fact to them, so even to religious people other religions are just beliefs, so whether it's a false belief or no belief it still fits in the list , Athiest is to religion as apple is to fruit. it belongs in the list becuse any religious person must agree there is only one true belief, so the list can only have one true "religion" therefore everyone must agree most of the list is beliefs, so athiest fits perfectly and belongs, duh! man, we covered this a long time ago in the origanal "GOD" thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohGr Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 so are you saying atheist is a religion or not, because if you are then thats your own opinion, i doubt it even is a religion, because as i said, its a word christians made up to call people who dont believe in a supernatural existence...in my opinion. duh man, i never read the f**king original god thread <_< EDIT in fact, i was never even able to see the original god thread, so dont be a smartass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadTree Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Aethist is just the dry technical term for a non-believing person. Typically we Catholics have better terms we like to use: "Heretic" "Fallen-one" "Methodist" (Please note, the above was intended as a joke only. Not only do I love Methodists, but I love heretics and fallen-ones as well.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albareth Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 In my expirience "heathen" seems to be a fairly popular one for Christians of such inclinations. As for the word Atheist, don't give credit for that to the Christians. A-theist, not theistic. Believing in nothing, non-believer, etc... arguing about whether or not it constitutes as religion or merely lack thereof is of no importance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akrid Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 I believe this is the second half of that "god" thread you should see this athiest being a religion debate thing was mentioned their as well as many other intresting ideas about religion. Sorry if I seemed like a @ss, I just feel the need to say Duhy somtimes to make myself feel smart. BTW ohGr, why do you have a upside-down cross on your avatars KKK looking hat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nailo Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 First of all I voted Christian. I was raised as a Christian and I am still being raised* a Christian. I never miss church unless of sickness and I very much enjoy going. I however am not sure 100% that there is or is not a God/afterlife. I would like to think there was and all. But considering science and all the knowlegde that God/TV blessed me with, I can't rid myself of the idea of no god and no afterlife. I find that there is a chance that we (People who believe in Gods/afterlifes) are wrong. The thing is if we are wrong then we most certainly won't know we were, considering there won't be an afterlife to discuss it in. I would also like to say that being a Christian my entire life and reading the Bible for spiritual and moral guidance I have grown up (in my opinion) to be a good, young man. I also think that even if you are not religious in any matter that reading the Bible does teach you good morals and many other things. I sort of look at it as a moral/history book. To end I really don't know what I believe but I do know my religion I follow is Christian. -Nailo *I use the word 'raised' here in a loose sense, considering I am 17 and still do my parents' bidding to some degree, one of which is going to church Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnoc Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 I think, Christianity isn't about following the traditions, it is about three simple (or perhaps not so simple) things: Love, Faith, Hope. That is why I am Christian. If every person would love the other persons the same as themselves, then we wouldn't have any problems at all. Hope we need in order to go on. If we hadn't hope, then we could just die and it wouldn't matter ("There is always hope!", Aragorn in TTT). Faith, we must believe that something good is still existing in this world ("What shall we believe in, Sam?"-"That there's something good in this world and it's worth fighting for!"), even when we are surrounded by darkness and evil (wars, crimes, terrorism etc. etc.). Perhaps we could have these three things without any religion, but I personally do not believe so. It's just that every attempt of humanity to create a better world fails because of the evil existing in everyone of us (just think of the French Revolution, Communism, Globalization). And there are some things which I experienced and I can't just deny what I saw (perhaps I could, but I don't want to and somehow I feel that it is as I think it is; don't ask me, from where I got this feeling). I saw how people who were thought to be a hopeless cases changed and became a very different person. I even saw how people were healed and nobody could explain why. I saw how people foretold things which later on happened and I saw how love changed persons and brought them together, even when they were in their former lives enemies. I even was healed myself. You see, I was suffering from a violent temper a long time. Sometimes I seemed quite peacefully, but then it just bursted out like from a volcano. I even injured people and definitly wanted to kill some (I was lucky that I never got a chance, but sometimes I got close to it). But then I began to change. I am a rationalist from my character and first I was very critical about the christian belief. It didn't fit into my rational and logical point of view. But then one day, after I had a really bad experience with my temper and injured someone (luckily not seriously; but the other one avoided me from then on), a good friend of mine prayed with me. And this was when I began to change, I lost my violence and am now very different than I was five years ago. Now you can deny all this and try to explain it somehow, but I don't think that you really will be able to do so. I've seen more than enough and I just can't let go and deny it all. What you do with it, is not my responsibility. I can only tell of my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Thief Oriana Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 I think, Christianity isn't about following the traditions, it is about three simple (or perhaps not so simple) things: Love, Faith, Hope. That is why I am Christian. well, certainly, but for every faithful, loving, hopeful person, there are two more of his same religion who are anything but, and who are sometimes worse than anything but. and when two simmilar religions battle amongst each other, that is the worst thing of all. and i mean specifically simmilar like catholics and protestants, or even more specific protestants and other protestants, southern baptists and almost every other protestant, catholic, islamic, etc, whatever. they dont seem to have all the love for one another that you feel we need. Perhaps we could have these three things without any religion, but I personally do not believe so. It's just that every attempt of humanity to create a better world fails because of the evil existing in everyone of us (just think of the French Revolution, Communism, Globalization). as human nature progresses, and we expand our world of knowledge, we also try to expand our world of monetary possesions, and our world of power, which leads to the corruption of the leaders who started from a step in the right direction. I, personally, try to do these three things on my own, without religion telling me that i must because someone larger than me, or life itself, wants me to. i do and believe these things because that is what is right and just. and that should be the basis of religion in my opinion Now you can deny all this and try to explain it somehow, but I don't think that you really will be able to do so. I've seen more than enough and I just can't let go and deny it all. What you do with it, is not my responsibility. I can only tell of my experience. we dont ask that you deny anything. we only ask why you think that you must be a puppet to do the right thing. you should do the right thing of your own free will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilindra Melir Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 I believe in reincarnation, the idea of a mother goddess, and Karma. I don't have any beliefs set down in stone though. I also think its important to have some sort of spiritual guidance growing up, even if you choose to change your views at a later point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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