Help with CTD needed.

[Gadge]

Hello, and please, please help me.

 

My mod journey has been fraught with lack of gameplay. So far with mods in Oblivion, I've had it crash before loading, crash in the first second of the Bethesda opening screen appearing, crash upon the first second of loading a saved game, crash at random times when moving through to different areas - mostly in personal view, but also in fast travel, crash while randomly traveling, and crash at the start of the game proper and when leaving it. I've had the 'no eyes on characters' effect, no water displaying, and the game completely freezing if asking for a random face on character creation.

 

Currently, I have two different characters; one is the one that has been ongoing through all the mod changes I've made, and the other is a new character started after all the mod-wars to try and circumvent the situation. If need be, I'll stick with the second character, but it would be nice to try and make it work for the first as well.

 

The problems as they stand right now: the older character cannot travel through the countryside without the game crashing shortly into it - as in, 10-25 seconds.

But worse, the newer character can't leave the sewers without the game going CTD - the loading screen completes, the gate creaks open and the music starts, but even as that happens the game is CTD-ing. As far as I can tell, water might be to blame this time, since it wasn't showing up in the sewers, but the other character was having the crash without water being present.

The other difference between the two? The 'some things from this save file might no longer be present' screen pops up immediately for the newer character, but fades in on the older. When playing through the tutorial again for the fresh character, when he got to the gate and it crashed, I had my 'saved for any new characters' game ready to load, but I can't think of what I might have done to make the file think things had been changed, even though it says that something has in terms of possibly losing data from mods no longer being there.

 

I have Oblivion Mod Manager and Wyre Bash, but neither seem to work properly; conflict resolution in the former results in a long screen of unfathomable (to me) words, followed by a programme-crashing error upon looking at certain categories. Wyre Bash, meanwhile, is much easier to understand in terms of where conflicts might be, but has a fault in it currently that prevents what seem to be the best fixing methods by plain not working - and I can't even close the programme except by force-quitting.

 

My current installed mod list:

Oblivion.esm

AWS-Core.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

AWS-ShiveringIsles.esp

Visually Enchanted 2.1.esp

BeautifulPeople2.2+TweakedGenericFaces.esp

Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp

bgMagicEVShader.esp

HouseMapMarkers.esp

Landmarks, w Wells.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest[Containers].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp

Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Loot.esp

Francesco's Optional House Chest Loot.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp

bgMagicEV.esp

bgMagicBonus.esp

bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp

Toaster's Legendary Skills & Stats.esp

Toaster's Legendary Mastery.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

bgMagicItemSigil.esp

Quest Award Leveller.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp

Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp

Xero's Fame Indicator.esp

All+5AttributeModifiers.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp

All_hair_and_eyes-1841.esp

 

That last one fixed the no eyes problem I was having, but after moving them around and not having any success with the primary mod managers, I'm really unable to do anything else to make it work.

 

Any help would be most gratefully received - and I trust the awesome people I've seen answer questions here can help me.

[bben46]

First, several of your mods require OBSE and you don't say if you have it. Some also require the latest patch.

 

Have you done any editing on your Oblivion.ini file?

 

You no longer need Oblivion Citadel door fix as that is included in the unofficial Oblivion patch.

 

I would try reinstalling Wrye Bash. The problem you seem to be having with it is not typical. The fact that you see a problem in OBMM also makes me think that there may be a problem with your main game or the bsa files.

 

Then, disable all of your mods. try the game and see if it works. If not, then you will have to reinstall. If it does, try enabling your mods in small groups of about 5 or 6 and testing after each group. This will narrow down which mod is causing your problem.

 

If you need to reinstall the game, I can tell you how to preserve your saved games and mods.

[Gadge]

First, several of your mods require OBSE and you don't say if you have it. Some also require the latest patch.

 

Have you done any editing on your Oblivion.ini file?

 

First of all, thank you kindly for your reply, it was helpful. I downloaded and installed OBSE, which I don't know if it helped but it didn't hurt. I also never would fiddle with the oblivion.ini file - I have no skills in that area.

There was a problem with my Wrye Bash, which his latest update seemed to fix, and I took out most every mod and the game worked, at least with a new game save files. My current load list is at the bottom of the post, and it seems creating a character more than once is a rite of passage for the game.

The game has crashed out a couple of times since, but since I'm a) saving all the time, and b) thinking it might be graphic overload after several hours of play, it's not a huge deal. Also, the new races at character creation have the empty eye thing, but I don't particularly want to play as them.

 

I just hope I still get weather effects - I really enjoyed running through a torrential downpour.

 

And the only other tampering with the mod system I'd be tempted to do is to see if I could get a way to not be able to harm my companions on a quest. They keep getting in the way, and it's awkward, to say the least.

 

Thank you again.

 

Oblivion.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

BeautifulPeople2.2+TweakedGenericFaces.esp

Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp

Landmarks, w Wells.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest[Containers].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp

Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Loot.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp

bgMagicEV.esp

bgMagicBonus.esp

bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp

Toaster's Legendary Skills & Stats.esp

Toaster's Legendary Mastery.esp

bgMagicItemSigil.esp

Quest Award Leveller.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp

Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp

Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp

bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp

Xero's Fame Indicator.esp

All+5AttributeModifiers.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

All_hair_and_eyes-1841.esp

Advanced_Water_Modification-2734.esp