FlyingHigh10000000 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 This mod:http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=9482 Has it stated by the author in the description that screenshots are not allowed to "spoil the surprise" or some such. Obviously this makes many people, such as myself, uneasy, because we have no idea what the author has put in the file, and they're refusing to clear that up themselves, instead just telling us what is supposedly in the mod. A helpful user posted a screenshot: [link removed from the comment thread by a moderator is removed again here, for the same reason] And the link was taken down by a moderator I won't name to avoid getting kicked out, with the reasoning "screenshots not included on purpose". That's horrible reasoning. If this is allowed, what's to stop users from being affected by a malicious mod, when authors are protected from screenshots being posted of the content included? Where are the community's rights to see what they're downloading onto their PC, and putting into their game? More importantly, does Dark0ne support this kind of action from his moderators, allowing a mod author to continue "pranking" users that don't fully understand that they're downloading a mod that includes two put-together Dwemer statues engaged in animated coitus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephenee13 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 The way I see it, the author is fully entitled to take that position, and to disallow uploading of screenshots onto the file itself. If someone wants to post an image in the discussion thread, well, thats an entirely different matter, IMO at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thandal Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Posting an image (or a link to one) in a mod's comment thread, in direct disregard for that author's stated wishes, is the visual equivalent of posting a plot point spoiler outside the "Spoiler" forums. No author is "required" to do anything except comply with the Terms of Service.No member is required to download, (much less use) any mod at all. There was no "prank". The mod was exactly as described by the author: Quote I am proud to present, a Damoru Studio Production, the Sexy Statues of Skyrim! Recently excavated from nearby Muzulft, these two lovers are locked in eternal bondage and are living it up in downtown Riften! PICTURES CANNOT DO THIS MOD JUSTICE! It has moving parts and illumination that can only be truly experienced in-game, so give it a gandering glance will ya? Created with the latest Creation kit technology, this mod is sure to raise some brows, guaranteed or your money back? iiiWARNING!!! This mod is not for the closed minded, and there will never be any pictures. I am WELL aware of the position "NO PICKS NO DOWNLAOD BRO!" and I apologize, for you must lead a truely unenlightened life.If it had violated the Terms of Service, then a report would have been justified, and appropriate action taken. This was not the case. :armscrossed: (Oh, and "not naming" the Staff member involved doesn't change the fact that this topic is a public dispute of a Moderator's actions. Just so you know...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingHigh10000000 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) Edit: To clear it up, I have no issue with the content of the mod in question. My "beef" so to say, can be summed up with this: Why the heck can't we post a screenshot so people can decide right away if it's for them or not? Quite a few people in the comments thread have basically asked for a screenshot so they could see what they're getting. Is that really such a bad thing to request, or god forbid, require? So because the author refuses to provide any evidence as to what the mod's content looks like, despite the numerous complaints and attempts to inform others of what is actually in the mod, he/she just gets a free pass because they don't want people to see it until it's right in their face in the game? Sure, the author stated what it was, but a lot of people, including myself, and many others in the comments thread it seems, would like to see things before having to just find out personally. I don't get how this is a public dispute of a moderator's actions. It's a public dispute of the lack of sound judgement a mod author has shown in not even letting people provide screenshot links in the comments thread, thereby censoring any attempt to inform possible downloaders of the /exact content/ without having to imagine it based on the description or having to fire up Skyrim to see it themselves. I just don't get why community members are not allowed to "warn" others essentially, of what they're getting. The description could be taken a few ways, and the screenshot clears things up /completely/. There's no reason whatsoever for a mod author to just be allowed to bring in the moderators to shut down any attempt to clear up any sort of questions people might have before downloading. It's not anything like spoiling a quest mod. It's like posting a picture of what a weapon mod looks like, so people can decide if they want it in their game or not. What's next, a mod with an intriguing name like "Blood-Brother Sword of Immolation" with the author forbidding pictures, only for people to get in-game and find it's just an enchanted iron sword? Where's the justice in that? Edited February 14, 2012 by FlyingHigh10000000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus51 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 On 2/14/2012 at 5:39 AM, FlyingHigh10000000 said: So because the author refuses to provide any evidence as to what the mod's content looks like, despite the numerous complaints and attempts to inform others of what is actually in the mod, he/she just gets a free pass because they don't want people to see it until it's right in their face in the game? Sure, the author stated what it was, but a lot of people, including myself, and many others in the comments thread it seems, would like to see things before having to just find out personally. I don't get how this is a public dispute of a moderator's actions. It's a public dispute of the lack of sound judgement a mod author has shown in not even letting people provide screenshot links in the comments thread, thereby censoring any attempt to inform possible downloaders of the /exact content/ without having to imagine it based on the description or having to fire up Skyrim to see it themselves. I just don't get why community members are not allowed to "warn" others essentially, of what they're getting. The description could be taken a few ways, and the screenshot clears things up /completely/. There's no reason whatsoever for a mod author to just be allowed to bring in the moderators to shut down any attempt to clear up any sort of questions people might have before downloading. It's not anything like spoiling a quest mod. It's like posting a picture of what a weapon mod looks like, so people can decide if they want it in their game or not. What's next, a mod with an intriguing name like "Blood-Brother Sword of Immolation" with the author forbidding pictures, only for people to get in-game and find it's just an enchanted iron sword? Where's the justice in that? Sweety, its a Skyrim mod download site. You know, for a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingHigh10000000 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Please don't take this off-topic, and furthermore, please refrain from patronizing people, or being sexist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amycus Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 On 2/14/2012 at 5:39 AM, FlyingHigh10000000 said: Edit: To clear it up, I have no issue with the content of the mod in question. My "beef" so to say, can be summed up with this: Why the heck can't we post a screenshot so people can decide right away if it's for them or not? Quite a few people in the comments thread have basically asked for a screenshot so they could see what they're getting. Is that really such a bad thing to request, or god forbid, require? Since the mod author as already explained, quite clearly too, that he doesnt wish to have any screenshots. Thats up to him, just like it is up to you whether you want to download or not when there arent any screenshots. Personally I would see any later submitted screenshot, against the mod authors wishes, as a spoiler, so no, I dont see a problem removing that. And as for your example: Quote What's next, a mod with an intriguing name like "Blood-Brother Sword of Immolation" with the author forbidding pictures, only for people to get in-game and find it's just an enchanted iron sword? Where's the justice in that?I dont see a problem with that either. Just dont download it at all if you are afraid to test it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingHigh10000000 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 How is it a spoiler when it's not at all "rewarding"? It's a couple of statues having animated sex. There's nothing to spoil, and to deny users the ability to know what it looks without having to download is just plain censorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damoru Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 @FlyingHigh x 10^7You took it there, and I get teary eyed to know it was all for my mod. You sir shall be dedicated in my next release, the grace, poise, and legacy of such an honor are all just rewards for your perseverance in the face of "forced" oppression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVampireDante Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 There is no site requirement for people to upload images relating to their mod, and I doubt there will be. The uploader doesn't want images, as it 'spoils' the surprise of seeing the mod's content for the first time while playing the game. It's his file on his page - that wish should be respected. Anyone posting images of the content is going to have their posts removed - end of matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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