Need help with troubleshooting, cant find whats causing problems

[Kathalie]

I have now spent the last week trying to get Skyrim to work with my mods, but it seems that no matter what I do there is always something thats causing problems.

 

I had problems with anything from mods not working properly, to the game crashing to not even launching.

 

I have uninstalled and reinstalled both the game and my mods 3 times this week and every time I do I fix one problem only to have another one rear its ugly head prevent things from working properly and me from enjoying the game.

 

Now I could really use some help with troubleshooting and solving these issues.

 

The latest issue surrounds the adaption of children.

I have a custom house outside of Riverwood(White River Cottage).

I head to Whiterun and adopt a child there.

But when I get to my home I dont get the sequence where the child meets me inside the door and thanks me for adopting her.

Instead she just stands in the middle of the house and if I try to talk to her, she says she need to gather her things and say goodbye to everyone.

 

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=930214065

 

I waited a full 24 hours + 5 hours ingame and its still causing problems.

I never had any problems with this home before.

 

 

I'm also having a problem with a missing carriage driver.

I only just started the game, so have only been to Whiterun and Riverwood, but the carriage outside of Whiterun is missing the driver so I cant fast travel to the other cities like I usually do.

 

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197971240119/screenshots/

 

I really want to play, but until these problems are solved permanently I cant play the game

So now I'm hoping someone here can help me because I have run out of both ideas and patience after all this.

 

My Load Order, copied from LOOT.

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

7 7 ApachiiHair.esm

8 8 arnima.esm

9 9 Falskaar.esm

10 a Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm

11 b SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

12 c FNIS.esp

13 d 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp

14 e Proper Gender.esp

15 f beltfastenedquivers.esp

16 10 XPMSSE.esp

17 11 Cassandra Frost Witch.esp

18 12 TERAArmorsSSE.esp

19 13 VampireLeatherArmorSet.esp

20 14 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

21 15 Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp

22 16 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp

23 17 SummerCustomeEyes.esp

24 18 KS Hairdo's.esp

25 19 Circlets with Helms.esp

26 1a iDeathDropWeaponChance0.esp

27 1b SexyMannequinElsbeth_SSE.esp

28 1c SexyMannequinJordyn_SSE.esp

29 1d Folkstead.esp

30 1e Nyhus.esp

31 1f Jehanna.esp

32 20 Eli_Breezehome.esp

33 21 ancient watchtowers.esp

34 22 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

35 23 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

36 24 Point The Way.esp

37 25 JK's Riverwood.esp

38 26 T'Skyrim Riverwood.esp

39 27 Invisible_Helmet.esp

40 28 JS Armored Circlets SE.esp

41 29 AsharaImperialOutfit.esp

42 2a NS_NobleDress.esp

43 2b NS_Eilhart_Dress.esp

44 2c Mortal Enemies - No RunWalk Changes.esp

45 2d Enchanting Freedom.esp

46 2e Tanning And Smelting Experience.esp

47 2f DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp

48 30 Dragonborn Needed to Fight Dragons.esp

49 31 Better Dynamic Snow.esp

50 32 TrueStormsSE.esp

51 33 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

52 34 AuroraFollower.esp

53 35 Emma_Watson.esp

54 36 Followers Don't Draw Weapons.esp

55 37 Jenna.esp

56 38 Run For Your Lives.esp

57 39 HearthfireMultiKid.esp

58 3a HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp

59 3b WeightlessOV - Ingredient.esp

60 3c adventurer's basement - bhm - all dlc.esp

61 3d HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp

62 3e Skyshards.esp

63 3f White River Cottage.esp

64 40 Dragonstead.esp

65 41 DoubleBedsAreForTwoPeople.esp

66 42 SassyGirls.esp

67 43 CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp

68 44 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

69 45 Folkvangr.esp

70 46 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp

71 47 Improved Adoptions.esp

72 48 AP Skyrim SE.esp

73 49 CrystalDragon.esp

74 4a FNISspells.esp

75 4b StormLord.esp

76 4c ExtraHairColors.esp

77 4d the treacherous hollows.esp

78 4e Raven 2.0.esp

79 4f WinterholdBridgeFixed.esp

80 50 Evil MasterMind Armor.esp

81 51 TheHermit.esp

82 52 Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp

83 53 BloodWitchArmor.esp

84 54 DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp

85 55 AsharaRomanticOutfit.esp

86 56 NewmillerHighHeelsBlck.esp

87 57 TT PC Nord Face Preset.esp

88 58 Chiasa.esp

89 59 Merth.esp

90 5a Ruby.esp

91 5b AsharaDimonizedDress.esp

92 5c SRX_NelkyrieFollower.esp

93 5d Shut UP.esp

94 5e Raven.esp

95 5f ImmersiveLoversComfort.esp

96 60 Ember.esp

97 61 Margery Follower.esp

98 62 Abba.esp

99 63 Ash Pile Expiration.esp

100 64 Believable Crime Report Radius.esp

101 65 Character Creation Overhaul.esp

102 66 CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp

103 67 CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp

104 68 DisableAutoAim.esp

105 69 DragonRemains_SSE.esp

106 6a sandboxcylinderheight.esp

107 6b SeeEnchs.esp

108 6c timescale6.esp

109 6d WeightlessOV - Book.esp

110 6e WeightlessOV - Scroll.esp

111 6f When Vampires Attack.esp

112 70 ImperialSoldiersEscortFix.esp

113 71 HearthfiresDollsAreUgly.esp

114 72 DiamondSmithingComplete.esp

115 73 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp

116 74 Backshields.esp

117 75 ValkyrieSwordShield.esp

118 76 Contractor Armor.esp

119 77 Shiri.esp

120 78 Nightingale Prime remaster.esp

121 79 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x5.esp

122 7a Mavari Armor.esp

123 7b Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp

124 7c IcePenguinWorldMap.esp

125 7d 50 More Perk Points.esp

126 7e Elvenia.esp

127 7f DynastyArmor.esp

128 80 EzEWorldMapSE.esp

129 81 My Home Is Your Home.esp

130 82 Open Cities Skyrim.esp

131 83 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

132 84 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

133 85 RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp

134 86 Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp

135 87 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

136 88 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

137 89 Hunters Not Bandits.esp

138 8a Eli_Breezehome-Open_Cities-Patch.esp

139 8b JK's Whiterun-Open cities SSE.esp

140 8c RWT Lod Fix.esp

Edited May 21, 2017 by Kathalie

[redneck1st]

A few questions for which I've got that others might ask as well Are you using Nexus Mod Organizer? Are you using LOOT and SSEEDIT to sort and clean your mods? Are all of your mods for SE or do you have some for which are for Oldrim? Because if they've not been ported over to SE then they could cause issues within SE 64 bit . Also have you cleaned all your master files with SSEDIT? Also do any of your current mods for which you are using require Skyse or SKYUI? if so they will not currently work as neither of these programs have been ported over to SE as of yet.

 

These are just a few of the things for which you can start with. hope you keep us posted on what going on.

Edited May 21, 2017 by redneck1st

[Kathalie]

I use NMM and LOOT(specified in my previous post that load order was copied from LOOT).

 

I have not used SSEEDIT as I am not comfortable with editing things when I dont know what I'm doing.

Its not from lack of trying, I just have a hard time comprehending how SSEEDIT works and how to use it and I do unfortunately also get easily confused, so I'm afraid I'll only make things worse if I try.

 

All mods are for SE, there are no oldrim mods installed, had one earlier this week that ended up preventing the game from even starting so didnt do that again.

None of the mods does to my knowledge use Skyse or SKYUI.

Edited May 21, 2017 by Kathalie

[redneck1st]

Ok I run LOOT as well as for SSEEDIT every time for which there is an Update for SE. I run loot and if there is nothing for which needs cleaned I still run SSEEDIT as it helps with the Load order in addition to the fact if there is any serious conflicts it should if I remember correctly bring them to your attention.

 

Now Below is a link to a video Tutorial for which is done by Gopher a great guy who breaks it down into very simple and easy to understand way to clean all of your files. So far the only ones for which I've had to clean is the Master files As the mod authors have been pretty good about cleaning their mods.

 

 

Watch the video a couple of times if need be and if need be follow along on the video as you do exactly what Gopher does in the Video. It's how I learned.

[Kathalie]

OK, I'll give it a try and see if I can understand it.

But It will have to wait until tomorrow, as its late here and I got work tomorrow.

 

Will let you know how it goes.

[Kathalie]

Having followed the instructions in the video and cleaned the master files, the problems still remains.

That means there is a mod conflict somewhere, I have tried to disable any mods I thought could cause issues, but so far it has had no effect.

Edited May 22, 2017 by Kathalie

[Kathalie]

Its always the mod you dont want to be the culprit that is the culprit.

Seems that Immersive Citizens AI overhaul is causing the Heartfire children(the vanilla ones) to just stand around and do nothing.

 

I'll see if the mod author has anything to say on this.

Edited May 22, 2017 by Kathalie

[Kathalie]

After removing the Immersive Citizens AI overhaul and the Improved adoptions I'm still having some trouble with the children.

 

When I adopt the first child, everything works just fine.

But when I adopt the second child, the child never appears at my home.

If I go back to the town/city where I found the child, he/she is not there either.

Its like the child just ceased to exist once I adopted him/her.

 

There has to be a mod somewhere thats causing problems, but I cant for the life of me figure out which one.

I never had these kinds of issues before, and I'm not using any more or less mods now than I have now.

 

Is there anyone around here who can provide some help?

Edited May 23, 2017 by Kathalie

[redneck1st]

Its always the mod you dont want to be the culprit that is the culprit.

Seems that Immersive Citizens AI overhaul is causing the Heartfire children(the vanilla ones) to just stand around and do nothing.

 

I'll see if the mod author has anything to say on this.

 

 

Allot of times when you remove mods mid game it breaks the game. That is why I started a play through and I'm adding mods a little at a time and testing them out. That way if I run into a problem I can usually find the culprit more easily

[Kathalie]

My problem is not removing or adding mods mid game, this is happening when starting a new game.

As I said in my OP I have done a fresh install of both the game and the mods 3 times and each time I start a new game.

 

The problem I have appears within the first 30-60 minutes of gameplay, and I specifically test to see if the problem is solved before I start a proper play through.