Alaisiagae Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 As the title suggests, I have noticed that blood is no longer appearing on my weapon, nor on actor/creature/character bodies. The little gout of blood that occurs when I strike a creature/npc still appears, and blood is smeared on the ground/wall/scenery, but no blood appears on the body, nor upon my weapon. I am using Gorier Blood, but I don't think that is the cause. In the Video Settings, Blood Decals are set to High. Is my missing blood due to a mod conflict, or did I change a Video Setting that handles blood effects? If the latter, what settings affect blood decals? Here is my current load order (with some comments next to mods that I know affect certain shaders, and other comments to elaborate on a non-self-explanatory esp name) :AWS-Core.esm Oblivion.esm bookplacing.esm TamrielTravellers.esm Better Cities Resources.esm VampireFaceBugFix.esm Inventory Tracker.esm Kvatch Rebuilt.esm No Lights Flicker.esm Tamrielic Ingredients.esm HeroofKvatch.esp \\adds armor set DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Dark Dungeons - SI.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp Madness_Perfect_Magic_Light_Armor.esp No_Zealot_Hood_Script.esp AWS-ShiveringIsles.esp 300_Lore Dialogue.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp AmbientTownSounds.esp MIS Low Wind.esp \\More Immersive Sound Rainbows.esp Short Grass V3.esp Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp Quest Award Leveller.esp Harvest [Flora].esp Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp Regrowing Nirnroot - Dissappear Reappear.esp Toaster's Legendary Mastery.esp sr_birthsigns_nomax.esp Dark BrotherHood Hood Replacer V1.4.esp Chameleon-NoRefraction-2411.esp \\changes Chameleon Shader Cane of Sheogorath.esp Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp Book Jackets DLC.esp VAs Better Gold with no Menu Icon.esp Ethereal - Armor Imperial Legion Edition AR.esp Potable Pastiche.esp Better Wine SI.esp BBM_DarkScales.esp Better ring of grey.esp Shadowhunt Unnerfed.esp EnchantedArchMageRobes.esp kal_legiondragon_fcuirass.esp SIA Assault Alert.esp SIA Fame Alert.esp SIA Infamy Alert.esp SIA Murder Alert.esp Reset Your Status Page.esp Female Armour Change.esp Slayer_Goodsfix.esp \\clutter, gem, and nugget repricing CombatAlarm.esp CrystalCalendarAlternateEdition.esp Less Creepy Guild Porters.esp DarkAltars.esp impguardpalkey.esp Creeper.esp PoisonousIntent.esp JADICMothPriests.esp Jagnot- Imperial City Library V1.3.esp Thievery_Easy_Thrill.esp The Wizard's Tower Recall.esp Imperial Horse Armor.esp FathisFix.esp Imperial City Temple Clean.esp Friendlier Summons.esp Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp RenGuardOverhaul.esp RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp Denock Arrows.esp CT-Better Perks.esp NaturalMagicSkillsInceases_v2.0.esp Levelled Spell Names.esp Slof's Dogs.esp LL_grave_eng.esp NoMerchantBarterChatter.esp No More Annoying Comments.esp Krystina's Adjusted IngredWeight.esp Krystina's EnchantTweakAndPotionConsumption.esp Krystina's MiscTweaks.esp Nonquest_Ring_of_Vipereye-2639.esp Kobu's Lighter Backpack Mod.esp Essential_Trainers-8374.esp SetEssentialActors.esp Is It Safe.esp Egress.esp All normal clothes buyable.esp Leviathan Soulgems.esp gemhammer.esp BEER! for Oblivion.esp HB Crude Glass Knife.esp c_dagcol.esp \\coolman's dagger collection Blood Glass Armor.esp Blood Glass Weapons.esp Dark-Stealth Gear.esp MC_Staff_Pack_NoLL.esp Saviour's Armor.esp Cryos Ordinator Lite.esp Daedric Lord Armor.esp Boots of Blinding Speed.esp LexNewtscale.esp \\armor Tamrielic_Ingredients.esp Salmo The Baker v2.0.esp Reznod_Mannequin.esp JQ-Amulets.esp P1DkeyChain.esp P1DKeyChainSI.esp BlueAndWhitePorcelain - Shop Inventory Only.esp Tegeals Extra Robes.esp vermillionandsilverthorn.esp JQ-DisplayPedestals.esp RTSWelkyndClstrTreasure.esp Arrow Enchanter.esp VaultsofCyrodiil.esp Lighter Potions.esp MerryBellInn.esp JKTreeHouseShip.esp PinePeakLodge.esp SingingStablehandInn.esp SleepyCatInn.esp Tamwyn_Cupboard.esp Brighter_Benirus.esp JGhasta_Training_Room-8969.esp Enchant Ripper.esp Enchanting and Spell Making Altars.esp Disenchant.esp M'aiq the still.esp NoDaedraTurrets.esp Improved_Sigil_Stones-8475.esp VendorAmmoLL.esp NPCHelms.esp NoObsoleteEnemies.esp NoObsoleteLoot.esp tag_NaturalWildlife.esp DecoratorAssistant v1.1.esp P1DrobesOver.esp P1DshieldNoGlow.esp MagicEffectDim.esp Mud Crabs!.esp SPARTAN VIs Diverse City Guards v1 2.esp (TLB)ElderCouncilsChambers v1.0.esp FCC-IC-ElvenGarden.esp FCC-IC-TalosPlaza.esp LGD's Arena Enhanced.esp Dirtier Waterfront.esp JADImperialApartments01Temple.esp JADImperialApartments02Temple.esp JADImperialApartments03Temple.esp BuyUmbacanoManor.esp PettyMerchants.esp TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp TamrielTravellers.esp TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp Harvest[Containers].esp Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp Thieves Highway.esp LetThePeopleDrink.esp BrumaMGRestored.esp BrumaMGRestored-Frostcrag.esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp Better Cities Full.esp Better Cities - Full Additions.esp Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp Imperial City Waterfront Tunnel Entrance v2.1.esp ElaborateEyes.esp ICEXPAND.esp Sno_DarkClub.esp Archmage_Enchanted_Chest_OBSE.esp 300 Arcane University.esp More_Skingrad-2481.esp The Black Cat Jewelry Store - Daedric Statues.esp Real Lava 1.3.esp BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp spelliconreplace.esp RealisticMagicForceLow.esp RealisticForceMedium.esp RDetectLife.esp \\alters detect life shader ScenicLoadscreens_v1.0.esp Loading Quotes of AWESOME.esp Parchments.esp \\adds "take" option to parchment clutter Dark Dungeons.esp Better_Frostcrag_Spire_Lighting-6682.esp NLF FrostCrag.esp NLF MehrunesRazor.esp NLF Orrery.esp NLF VileLair.esp VFBF Quicksave.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaisiagae Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 Okay, so I went dungeon crawling and noticed that the blood will show up on my weapon and the slain creature's body - if and only if that creature happens to be an imp. Doesn't work for rats, ogres, wolves, mountain lions, bears, et cetera. Does anybody have any insights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 If you want to see blood, don't kill anything but imps.There is a setting in the oblivion.ini relating to blood decals. Have you made any changes in the oblivion.ini file? The fact that it does show on Imps, but not other creatures indicates that it is most likely a mod. Don't assume that the mod will have anything to do with either blood or creatures. Oblivion mods affect things in strange ways. Try disabling mods in groups of 10 or so until you get blood, then narrow it down, it may be something to do with load order also. when you find the mod try moving it up or down in the load order and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaisiagae Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 If you want to see blood, don't kill anything but imps.There is a setting in the oblivion.ini relating to blood decals. Have you made any changes in the oblivion.ini file?No, I haven't. But a mod might have changed them. What are the settings I should look for, so I can double check?The fact that it does show on Imps, but not other creatures indicates that it is most likely a mod. Don't assume that the mod will have anything to do with either blood or creatures. Oblivion mods affect things in strange ways. Try disabling mods in groups of 10 or so until you get blood, then narrow it down, it may be something to do with load order also. when you find the mod try moving it up or down in the load order and see what happens.Ugh, not the old "10 on, 10 off" thing... :yucky: Would using the OBMM conflict detector work? If so, what type of Record Group should I look in? I'm going to delay the mod-on, mod-off routine as long as I can... but if I have to do it, I will do it, because I am sick of looking at my pristine, clean blade after I've shoved it through a minotaur's stomach. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaisiagae Posted May 17, 2008 Author Share Posted May 17, 2008 Does anyone have any insights? Again, what should I look for in my ini settings? Update of information: sometimes the blood shows up on my blade when I attack creatures other than imps, but it isn't consistent. current load order:Oblivion.esm bookplacing.esm TamrielTravellers.esm Inventory Tracker.esm Kvatch Rebuilt.esm No Lights Flicker.esm HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Dark Dungeons - SI.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp No_Zealot_Hood_Script.esp 300_Lore Dialogue.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp AmbientTownSounds.esp MIS Low Wind.esp Short Grass V3.esp nVidia Black Screen Fix.esp Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp Quest Award Leveller.esp Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp Harvest [Flora].esp Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp Regrowing Nirnroot - Dissappear Reappear.esp Landmarks.esp Pitcher Plant Nectar RE.esp Toaster's Legendary Mastery.esp sr_birthsigns_nomax.esp Chameleon-NoRefraction-2411.esp VAs Better Gold with no Menu Icon.esp Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp Book Jackets DLC.esp Cane of Sheogorath.esp Capucine'sEyeSelection.esp Real Lava 1.3.esp Ethereal - Armor Imperial Legion Edition AR.esp Potable Pastiche.esp Better Wine SI.esp BBM_DarkScales.esp Leviathan Soulgems.esp Better ring of grey.esp Shadowhunt Unnerfed.esp Tamwyn_Cupboard.esp EnchantedArchMageRobes.esp kal_legiondragon_fcuirass.esp SA Social Alertness.esp Reset Your Status Page.esp CombatAlarm.esp CrystalCalendarAlternateEdition.esp Less Creepy Guild Porters.esp DifferentServantGreetings.esp No More Annoying Comments.esp NoMerchantBarterChatter.esp RespectMahAuthoritah.esp IC_BattleMage_Remark_Removed-6373.esp impguardpalkey.esp Thievery_Easy_Thrill.esp Imperial Horse Armor.esp Imperial City Temple Clean.esp Friendlier Summons.esp Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp RenGuardOverhaul.esp RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp GuildBetrayal.esp Denock Arrows.esp P1DrobesOver.esp P1DshieldNoGlow.esp NaturalMagicSkillsInceases_v2.0.esp Harvest[Containers].esp Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp LL_grave_eng.esp Improved_Sigil_Stones-8475.esp Krystina's Adjusted IngredWeight.esp Lighter_Things_Lite.esp Lighter Potions.esp TUR_GemDust.esp Kobu's Lighter Backpack Mod.esp Addendum - Property Tax.esp Archmage_Enchanted_Chest_OBSE.esp SetEssentialActors.esp Is It Safe.esp Egress.esp Disenchant.esp DecoratorAssistant v1.1.esp All normal clothes buyable.esp Mud Crabs!.esp Slof's Dogs.esp SubSpecies Variety Pack #1 - Canines (full version).esp NPCHelms.esp ABC.esp DirenniAlchemyApparatus.esp BEER! for Oblivion.esp HB Crude Glass Knife.esp c_dagcol.esp Dark-Stealth Gear.esp HeroofKvatch.esp Saviour's Armor.esp Cryos Ordinator Lite.esp heavy leather armor.esp Daedric Lord Armor.esp LexNewtscale.esp Reznod_Mannequin.esp JQ-Amulets.esp P1DkeyChain.esp P1DKeyChainSI.esp Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp Tegeals Extra Robes.esp JQ-DisplayPedestals.esp RTSWelkyndClstrTreasure.esp DarkAltars.esp VaultsofCyrodiil.esp Enchant Ripper.esp Enchanting and Spell Making Altars.esp SPARTAN VIs Diverse City Guards v1 2.esp Del_Skingrad_Balcony.esp PettyMerchants.esp JQ-AssassinQuest.esp FallenTower.esp JKTreeHouseShip.esp BravurasBarrel.esp Lions Claw harbuor House.esp Lions Claw harbuor area.esp MoreSuburbLife.esp GreatForestMarket.esp NoObsoleteEnemies.esp NoObsoleteLoot.esp Levelled Spell Names.esp BrumaMGRestored.esp BrumaMGRestored-Frostcrag.esp Better Elven Gardens.esp LGD's Arena Enhanced.esp FCC-IC-TalosPlaza.esp green market district.esp Dirtier Waterfront.esp Posters.esp DJ_Sewer_Hideout_01.esp cyrodiil transportation network 1.3 wz.esp TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp TamrielTravellers.esp TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp LetThePeopleDrink.esp The Black Cat Jewelry Store - Daedric Statues.esp Imperial City Waterfront Tunnel Entrance v2.1.esp More_Skingrad-2481.esp BC Skingrad Reduced.esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp Dark Dungeons.esp ICEXPAND.esp BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp spelliconreplace.esp RealisticForceMedium.esp RealisticMagicForceLow.esp RDetectLife.esp ScenicLoadscreens_v1.0.esp Loading Quotes of AWESOME.esp Parchments.esp Better_Frostcrag_Spire_Lighting-6682.esp NLF FrostCrag.esp NLF Knights.esp NLF MehrunesRazor.esp NLF Orrery.esp NLF VileLair.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threevil Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 A little trial-and-error will probably fix the problem, as bben46 suggested.From what I know, Oblivion.ini should only be modified if you've changed it manually or with a tool such as Wrye Bash (the file is located in Documents and Settings/*username*/My Documents/My Games/Oblivion). Even if a mod did involve an ini tweak, you would have had to have replaced the stock ini file yourself. Honestly, it's far easier to simply check and uncheck various mods until the blood works properly.Personally, I barely notice blood decals at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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