ExpressTicket Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I was wondering if anyone knew if my CTDs were being caused by my load order (which has been arranged, checked by me, and then rearranged by LOOT), or by a compatibility issue with one or more of the mods. I have also done a clean install of all of the mods and a verification of the cache via steam in case a game file was deleted. A few more details about the issue - I do not get any CTDs up to or immediately after Vault 111. I do not get any CTDs when following Codsworth around Sanctuary to "find my family". The crashes typically occur at some point after I first access the Sanctuary workshop (which I typically do before going to Concord). The duration that I am able to stay in the workshop before the CTD varies, but is typically between 2-10 minutes. It has never occurred immediately upon opening the workshop, but I also have not noticed it when not in the workshop, but it always CTDs before I can exit and save my progress after all of that glorious early game scrapping I enjoy. Please don't judge my mod or how ridiculously modded my game is, I just need something far from vanilla these days lol. Below is my load order: *Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp*HUDFramework.esm*TrueStormsFO4.esm*ArmorKeywords.esm*ConcealedArmor.esm*CheatTerminal.esp*LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp*ConcealedArmor.esp*Armorsmith Extended.esp*WeightlessJunk.esp*eli_faction housing overhaul - aio.esp*MojaveImports.esp*Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp*TrainBar.esp*Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp*DeadAirplane.esp*cheaters den.esp*Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp*HoloTime.esp*My_Minutemen.esp*Locksmith.esp*keyNuker.esp*laundromat.esp*ImmersiveVendors.esp*ShellRain.esp*PD_VisualReload.esp*Better Cooking Stations.esp*mso_sms.esp*OCDecorator.esp*OCDispenser.esp*OCDecoratorDLC.esp*SolarPower.esp*TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp*TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp*TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp*TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp*TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp*TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp*VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp*Fusion Gun.esp*WRVR.esp*Eli_Chestnut Lodge DLC.esp*PlaneWreck.esp*Eli_Rockin Red Rocket.esp*Eli_Sanctuary Bunker.esp*EveryonesBestFriend.esp*UFOCrashSite.esp*CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp*Eli_Bunker.esp*remington 1858.esp*AzarHolsteredWeapons.esp*ClassicSniper.esp*M1Garand.esp*M2045MagnumRevolverRifle.esp*VarmintRifle.esp*DX_Black_Widow.esp*DPAssaultCarbine.esp*Makeshift-Anti Materiel Rifle.esp*P99.esp*CrudeBlowback.esp*HandmadeRevolver.esp*SVT40.esp*AtomicRadio.esp*SSEX.esp*MODGirlyAnimation.esp*RightHandedHuntingRifle.esp*DarkerNights.esp*CTHHostileNPCsSneakingAndOrWeaponDrawn.esp*FlaconOil HD ReTexture_Performance Pack_Part_1.esp*FlaconOil HD ReTexture_Performance Pack_Part_2.esp*Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - Sanctuary.esp*dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp*dD - Screen Blood Duration Medium.esp*CBBE.esp*TheEyesOfBeauty.esp*KSHairdos.esp*AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp*LovingCait.esp*LovingPiper-DarkPrecursorLCC.esp*PlatinumCurieV2.esp*zWGirlClothSimply.esp*DX Commonwealth Mini Dresses.esp*DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp*DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp*NukaRadBans.esp*Lacy Underwear.esp*Sporty Underwear.esp*rpampas.esp*VaultSuitUnzipped.esp*S_Uniform_F.esp*S_Uniform_M.esp*el_precursorsuit.esp*KerriganGlasses.esp*Kerrigan.esp*KerriganColorChange.esp*ChineseStealthSuit.esp*DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp*K9TacticalHarness.esp*tumbajamba Advanced Engineering.esp*combat_PA.esp*combat_PA - tAE - AWKCR.esp*10mmSMG.esp*SigSauer127.esp*9x39Project.esp*AlienAssaultRifle.esp*AlienAssaultRifle-NoLegendSpawn.esp*CrudeBlowback - AWKCR.esp*CrudeBlowback-2xDMG.esp*HandmadeRevolver - AWKCR.esp*HandmadeRevolver-2xDMG.esp*M1Garand - AWKCR.esp*M1Garand-2xDMG.esp*DOOM1911.esp*Mosin.esp*AssaultRifle02.esp*mauser rifle pack.esp*colt python.esp*870.esp*Campsite.esp*SVT40-AWKCR.esp*SVT40-2xDMG.esp*Bozar.esp*GaussRifleMk2.esp*GaussRifleMk2 - tAE - AWKCR.esp*VarmintRifle - AWKCR.esp*WM Chinese Assault Rifle - Standalone.esp*defense gun.esp*Gorgeous_VaultGirlV1_preset2.esp*Gorgeous VaultGirl.esp *NOTE* The following mods are new to my load order since switching computers (did not have CTDs with previous load order on old computer): LooksMenu Customization CompendiumVisual ReloadShell RainEli Faction Housing Overhaul - SanctuaryEli Armor CompendiumEli Rockin Red RocketEli Sanctuary BunkerAssault Carbine and Service RiflePlatinum Curie V2MosinSchool UniformsSimply ClothingFalconOil HD PackDOOM1911Sig 12.7Concealed ArmorEli Chestnut LodgeDarker NightsKSHairdosLoving Piper Dark PrecursorPampas SetPrecursor suit The following mods were added to the load order *AFTER* first experiencing the CTD (I know, why add more mods if you're having CTD issues, but I figured they would take care of themselves if I simply rebooted my computer to minimize RAM usage, not that I was close to using my 16GB, and lowered the graphic settings to the recommended Ultra, instead of custom max settings - minus motion blur, because f that): LooksMenu Customization CompendiumAssault Carbine and Service RiflePlatinum Curie V2FalconOil HD PackDOOM1911Sig 12.7Concealed ArmorEli Chestnut LodgeDarker NightsKSHairdosLoving Piper Dark PrecursorPampas SetPrecursor Suit With all of that, I feel the most likely culprits are an incorrect order, or an issue with one of the following: Visual ReloadShell RainEli Faction Housing Overhaul - SanctuaryEli Armor CompendiumEli Rockin Red RocketEli Sanctuary BunkerMosinSchool UniformsSimply Clothing I have looked at these mod pages, and not found any references to CTDs apart from Scrap Dead Things. I thought this was the most likely culprit, but when I read the bug report, the person had reported "immediately upon opening workshop". I am going to try disabling this one mod and will report back if I still experience the issue. In the meantime, I am making this post so that if anyone else notices something wrong they can inform me. Thank you very much in advance. After uninstalling Scrap Dead Things, I have edited my mod lists to show the most up to date load order. I am still having this issue, after having thought that I had solved it, and in addition I have discovered that if I sleep for more than 3 hours, the game will ALWAYS CTD during sleep. More info on this specifically is located in the other thread: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/5231795-crashing-during-sleep/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpressTicket Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 After spending approx. 10 minutes in the Workshop mode, I am now 90% certain it was being caused, somehow, by Scrap Dead Things. I guess I will just have to use the commands disable and markfordelete on those pesky sanctuary bugs and skeleton. I will update this post if I experience the issue again, but for now consider it case closed. Thanks again to everyone who was thinking of helping (or to anyone who responds to this post in an effort to clean up my noob load order hahaha). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyZ0G Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) if it's working without Scrap Dead Things but you miss being able to get rid of them, try Corpse Cleaner.not only can you scrap the dead things in your settlements, you can scrap them all over the Commonwealth as it doesn't use the workshop. Edited June 29, 2017 by mighty zog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpressTicket Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 Uninstalling scrap dead things, did not resolve the issue. I also reinstalled Fallout 4 and each mod, along with starting a new save, to start with a clean slate in case SDT had left its mark on the base game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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