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Hi everyone. :smile:

I have tweaked my stutter remover ini in many ways by reading in the mod comment section and all over the internet in order to fix some issues I had, expecially the disappearing hand bug and the way my ini file is, everything is fixed. Expect for one thing: when arriving to a new area, there is a small, but noticable, stutter for a moment. In this moment I lose 10 fps for two seconds and then I recover them and everything is normal.

I usually have 55/58 fps all around, but for example, if travelling from Goodspring to Primm, the moment I arrive to Primm I will have this fps drop for two seconds. The same thing happens when fast travelling, the moment I move the camera around my fps will drop and then recover.

Is there a way to fix it? Clearly my pc can handle the game, since it never goes down the 50 fps except when during this moment. I will copy my ini settings here:

 

 

 

Master = {
_comment = You can turn on or off each distinct feature from here.
bManageFPS = 1
bHookCriticalSections = 1
bHookLightCriticalSections = 0
bHookHashtables = 1
bReplaceHeap = 1
bReplaceGetTickCount = 1
bLogToConsole = 0
bFastExit = 1
bFlushLog = 1
iSchedulingResolution = 1
bReplaceRandom = 1
bExperimentalStuff = 0
iMainHookPoint = 1
}
Experimental = {
_comment =bReduceSleep and iThreadsFixedToCPUs can probably reasonably be used at 1. > 1 is a bad idea atm.
_comment =other settings here you're probably better off not touching
bReduceSleep = 0
iThreadsFixedToCPUs = 1
bSuppressRandomSeeding = 0
bBenchmarkHeap = 0
bAlternateHeapHooks = 0
iHeapMainBlockAddress = 0
}
FPS_Management = {
_comment =Absent a good reason otherwise, bInject_iFPSClamp=1, fMaximumFPS= 30 to 85 (or 0), fMinimumFPS= 10 to 20, iFPS_Report_Period = 2000 to 60000, fExtraSleepPercent = 0.0 to 0.2
bInject_iFPSClamp = 0
fMaximumFPS = 58
fMinimumFPS = 15
iFPS_Report_Period = 15000
fExtraSleepPercent =0.05
}
GetTickCount = {
_comment =This section is disabled by default - see Master/bReplaceGetTickCount
bForceResolution = 0
bPreserveDC_Bias = 1
bPreserveHighFreqComponents = 0
bForceSync = 0
iSyncLimitMilliseconds = 50
}
CriticalSections = {
_comment = CS stuff helps Oblivion, Fallout, and New Vegas significantly
_comment = much of the benefit comes from the Renderer+0x180 suppression (see overrides below)
_comment = modes: 1=vanilla, 2=fair, 3=staggering(hybrid of 1 & 2), 5=suppressed
bUseOverrides = 1
iDefaultMode = 3
iDefaultSpin = 1000
iStaggerLevel = 5
bEnableMessages = 1
bEnableProfiling = 0
}
LightCriticalSections = {
_comment =LCS stuff is like CS stuff, but with a Bethesda implementation. And inlined sometimes, so difficult for me to work with
bEnableProfiling = 0
bEnableMessages = 1
iDefaultMode = 3
iDefaultSpin = 1000
iStaggerLevel = 5
bFullHooks = 0
bUseOverrides = 0
}
Heap = {
_comment =This section is disabled by default - see Master/bReplaceHeap
_comment =I recommend enabling it however.
_comment = Heap replacement can produce MAJOR improvements in performance on Oblivion at a significant cost in stability
_comment = It crashes instantly on Fallout3 last I remember checking
_comment = It seems to work on Fallout: New Vegas ?
_comment = Algorithms: 1=FastMM4, 2=Microsoft (slow on XP), 3=SimpleHeap1, 4=TBBMalloc, 5=ThreadHeap2, 6=ThreadHeap3, 8=tcmalloc
_comment = Algorithms numbers 1, 4, and 8 require external DLL files in the Data/OBSE/Plugins/ComponentDLLs folder
_comment = Size is in units of megabytes, and only effects algorithms 3, 5, and 6 (other algorithms dynamically determine their own size)
iHeapAlgorithm = 6
bEnableProfiling = 0
iHeapSize = 768
bEnableMessages = 0
bZeroAllocations = 0
}
Hashtables = {
bUseOverrides = 1
bEnableMessages = 0
bEnableExtraMessages = 0
bEnableProfiling = 0
}
OverrideList = {
CriticalSection = {
CallerAddress = 0xA62B29
comment = Renderer+0x180, recommendation=suppress (mode 5)
Mode = 5
Version =FalloutNV 1.4.0.525
}
CriticalSection = {
CallerAddress = 0xA62B17
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Mode = 2
Version =FalloutNV 1.4.0.525
}
CriticalSection = {
CallerAddress = 0xA044FE
comment = ?, recommendation=stagger (mode 3), maybe high spin?
Mode = 3
Spin = 6000
Version =FalloutNV 1.4.0.525
}
CriticalSection = {
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comment = ?, recommendation=stagger (mode 3)
Mode = 3
Version =FalloutNV 1.4.0.525
}
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Mode = 2
Version =FalloutNV 1.4.0.525
}
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OldSize = 37
NewSize = 8701
Version =FalloutNV 1.4.0.525
}
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NewSize = 371
Version =FalloutNV 1.4.0.525
}
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OldSize = 37
NewSize = 117
WordBits = 8
Version =FalloutNV 1.4.0.525
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Version =FalloutNV 1.4.0.525
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WordBits = 8
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}

 

 

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What you describe is the effect of transitioning cells. The more Video RAM you have, the more adjacent cells the video card can pre-render before actual display, allowing smooth transitions at the cost of uselessly rendering more cells in the directions you didn't travel. But increasing the number of adjacent cells you pre-render can also have an inverse effect (loss) upon your FPS. If you don't have the Video RAM to fully handle the pre-rendering of all the called for adjacent cells, then the graphics have to be loaded and rendered from disk in real-time which is much slower and shows up as stuttering. It's a trade-off balancing act. Please see "uGridsToLoad" and related settings in the "Tweak Guides".

 

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My video card has 4gb of ram, it should be enough I suppose... I will read the guide, but I know for sure increasing the uGridsToLoad is always a bad idea from my days in modding Skyrim.

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I read the guide, basically the only way is to increase uGridsToLoad to 7? WiLL I not have the same problems as in Skyrim? For example quests and scripts firing before I'm even there?

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4GB of video RAM is all I have as well, but I'm only using uGridsToLoad=5. But my "uExterior Cell Buffer=102", up from the original of 36. The two are related, as pointed out in the article. (Why do people only pay attention to the first part of a technical entry?)

 

Skyrim and Fallout use different game engines; so "apples" and "oranges". Quests and scripts firing off simply because a new cell has been rendered is just bad scripting. Haven't heard of that happening in FNV but I haven't been around this game that long (only a year and a half and still on my first play through). Try a test run.

 

Frankly, a two second stutter upon changing cells is not something I would get upset about. Annoying, yes. But a momentary drop of a few FPS is not something that bothers me either; unless it gets to the point where the game is unplayable (<20 FPS). You want to try to fix it, then you have to make the necessary trade-offs and experiments. No two systems are identical.

 

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