BADTFL and Trinity Plaza crashes

[Erenar]

So I have a modded build of FO4 and all was great for 100 hours. Now, and I've been to these areas before, whenever I get close to BADTFL or Trinity, the game quits to desktop.

 

My spec is below, my mods are listed. AMDMiscMerge is my own handmade conflict resolution file.

 

Anyone aware of any conflicts, mesh issues etc that may cause me to crash?

 

0 0 Fallout4.esm

1 1 DLCRobot.esm

2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm

3 3 DLCCoast.esm

4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm

5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm

6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm

7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp

8 8 DLCUltraHighResolution.esm

9 9 ArmorKeywords.esm

10 a Homemaker.esm

11 b HUDFramework.esm

12 c Loads.esm

13 d NewCalibers.esp

14 e SettlementKeywords.esm

15 f SimSettlements.esm

16 10 TrueStormsFO4.esm

17 11 DEF_WIDGETS_CORE.esm

18 12 ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion.esp

19 13 def_inv_scrap_en.esp

20 14 SettlementMenuManager.esp

21 15 LooksMenu.esp

22 16 Movable Power Armor.esp

23 17 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

24 18 jdmSofaSurfer.esp

25 19 Scrap Everything - Core.esp

26 1a Snappy_Scrap.esp

27 1b Weaponsmith Extended 2.esp

28 1c Armorsmith Extended.esp

29 1d Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp

30 1e Scrap Everything - Far Harbor.esp

31 1f Driveable Motorcycle Mod.esp

32 20 MojaveImports.esp

33 21 brotherhood of steel overhaul.esp

34 22 CutWeaponModsRestored.esp

35 23 3dscopes.esp

36 24 3dscopes-AddToSpawnList - CWMR Compatible.esp

37 25 3dscopes-FarHarbor.esp

38 26 3dscopes-framework.esp

39 27 BetterSettlers.esp

40 28 BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp

41 29 Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp

42 2a Eli_Chestnut Lodge DLC.esp

43 2b Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - The Castle.esp

44 2c Eli_MarlboroughHouse.esp

45 2d RaiderOverhaul.esp

46 2e Snappy_HouseK.esp

47 2f ScrapUpdate - Core.esp

48 30 SuperMutantOverhaul.esp

49 31 Weaponsmith - Super Mutant Redux Patch.esp

50 32 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp

51 33 WET.esp

52 34 Vivid Waters.esp

53 35 CutWeaponModsRestored-NukaWorld.esp

54 36 3dscopes-NukaWorld.esp

55 37 Wastelander's Cookbook.esp

56 38 Chemist's Cookbook.esp

57 39 chem redux.esp

58 3a [PPE] Chemist's Cookbook + Chem Redux [Patch].esp

59 3b [PPE] Chemist's Cookbook + Mojave Imports [Patch].esp

60 3c Crafting Workbench.esp

61 3d [PPE] Crafting Workbenches + Chemist's Cookbook [Patch].esp

62 3e [PPE] Wastelander's Cookbook + Mojave Imports [Patch].esp

63 3f CCOFO4 - Traits and More Perks.esp

64 40 PowerArmorT49.esp

65 41 Rangergearnew.esp

66 42 B-90.esp

67 43 America Rising - A Tale of the Enclave.esp

68 44 SSEX.esp

69 45 Better Vendor Stalls.esp

70 46 SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp

71 47 BetterJunkFences.esp

72 48 BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp

73 49 BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp

74 4a Raider Overhaul - AE Patch.esp

75 4b Cannabis Commonwealth.esp

76 4c CBBE.esp

77 4d contraptionslights.esp

78 4e SimHomestead.esp

79 4f CourserCrusher.esp

80 50 PlatinumCurieV2.1.esp

81 51 Deeper Thoughts (Curie).esp

82 52 kevbal.esp

83 53 ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp

84 54 TrailerParkDreams.esp

85 55 WVSimSAddon.esp

86 56 PCDugSIMAddon.esp

87 57 Mama Murphys Chair Redone.esp

88 58 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Utilities_JtBryant.esp

89 59 hi_bettergardens.esp

90 5a CraftableAmmo.esp

91 5b CraftableAmmo_plus.esp

92 5c Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp

93 5d Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp

94 5e Crafting Workbenches - Faction and Quest Requirements.esp

95 5f Crafting Workbenches - Junk Items.esp

96 60 Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp

97 61 Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp

98 62 CROSS_GoreCrits.esp

99 63 CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp

100 64 CutWeaponModsRestored-Automatron.esp

101 65 CutWeaponModsRestored-FarHarbor.esp

102 66 CWMR-NW-Patch-ValdacilsItemSorting-DLCNukaWorld.esp

103 67 CWMR-A-Patch-ValdacilsItemSorting-DLCAutomatron.esp

104 68 CWMR-FH-Patch-ValdacilsItemSorting-DLCFarHarbor.esp

105 69 CWMR-Patch-AWKCR.esp

106 6a CWMR-Patch-ValdacilsItemSorting-Weapons.esp

107 6b dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp

108 6c DPAssaultCarbine.esp

109 6d DPAssaultCarbineNukaWorld.esp

110 6e DPAssaultCarbine AWKCR.esp

111 6f DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp

112 70 DX_Black_Widow.esp

113 71 Eli Armor Compendium AE VIS Patch.esp

114 72 EnclaveX02.esp

115 73 EveryonesBestFriend.esp

116 74 SurvivalOptions.esp

117 75 FemsheppingsPorts_LeahLilithAndKalilies_AWKCR_AE_V1.esp

118 76 IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp

119 77 Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp

120 78 LongerPowerLines3x.esp

121 79 LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp

122 7a LoreFriendlySurvivalChems.esp

123 7b MI - WC - LFSC - RO - LLP.esp

124 7c T-51C Power Armor.esp

125 7d Vault-Tec Power Armor by NewerMind43 & Captain-Ultima.esp

126 7e UnionBlaster.esp

127 7f MidWest PA.esp

128 80 Minutemenoverhaul.esp

129 81 MinutemenPropaganda.esp

130 82 More Where That Came From - Classic.esp

131 83 More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp

132 84 MP40.esp

133 85 NewCalibers_MP40.esp

134 86 OCDecorator.esp

135 87 OCDecoratorDLC.esp

136 88 OCDispenser.esp

137 89 OctaviusSentibar_Labels.esp

138 8a PCDugWedges.esp

139 8b Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp

140 8c PortableRecycler.esp

141 8d Scrap Everything - Nuka World.esp

142 8e ScrapUpdate - FH.esp

143 8f SimSettlements_VIS.esp

144 90 Snappy_DecoKit.esp

145 91 Synth Overhaul.esp

146 92 Synth Overhaul - Black Patch.esp

147 93 THBrows.esp

148 94 TrueGrass.esp

149 95 TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp

150 96 TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp

151 97 TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp

152 98 TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp

153 99 WeaponSmith Extended 2 - Survival Ammo Weight Patch.esp

154 9a VIS - Loads.esp

155 9b Wasteland Sniper by Hothtrooper44.esp

156 9c WCB - ViS Sorting Patch.esp

157 9d def_w_buffs1.esp

158 9e PowerArmorHUD.esp

159 9f def_w_PA1.esp

160 a0 def_w_PA1_remove_PAConditionIndicator.esp

161 a1 def_w_PA1_remove_PAConditionIndicatorFrame.esp

162 a2 def_w_amm1.esp

163 a3 HoloTime.esp

164 a4 CompanionStatus.esp

165 a5 DEF_WIDGETS_SURVIVAL1.esp

166 a6 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

167 a7 DCGuardOutfitOverride.esp

168 a8 AMDMiscMerge.esp

169 a9 The_Prydwen_Overhaul.esp

[SMB92]

I had a crash here before that I solved with something, let me ponder on that for a while, i can't remember what it was

 

Edit: Did you use LOOT on that load order? If you did, its dine you no favors, that is not a happy load order

[MightyZ0G]

scrap everything must be at the bottom of your load order

 

I think that your merged patch should after them then your bashed patch.

if I am wrong then your merged and bashed patches should go immediately before scrap everything.

 

the best way to sort your load order is by categorising your mods so that clothing mods are all together, workshop mods are all together, crafting mods are all together, etc.

[SMB92]

If his bashed and merged patches do not touch any cells they can go after. Otherwise sound advice :).

[Erenar]

Bash only touches levelled lists and NPCs as standard. My merge has a couple of elfx edits and that's it for cell edits. As for the load order, LOOT did that, apart from putting Pydwen at the end. Prydwen went last after I got there and found duplicate overlaps, possibly due to an ELFX edit, and this was the only position that resolved it.

 

As for the rest, LOOT was responsible...

 

I've removed all overhauls and just left armoursmith, weaponsmith, chem overhauls and settlement mods. Even ELFX has gone to see if that would resolve the cell's glitch. I'll TGM and head over from a fresh start to see if the issue reoccurs on a new save game but, as I mentioned in my original post, I've been to both areas before (2 or 3 times) and it's only now that it's a problem. Weird one....

 

I think I'll go with extra armour and weapons, recipes, settlement build mods and forget all content overhauls.

 

Thanks for the responses :)

Edited July 5, 2017 by Erenar

[Erenar]

Oh I should add, a couple of levelled lists were edited as BASH made a mess of them and included everything rather than breaking down levels and implementing different items at different levels. I've found this to be the case whichever BASH I use. It does require some manual intervention here and there.

[MightyZ0G]

I'll TGM and head over from a fresh start to see if the issue reoccurs on a new save game but, as I mentioned in my original post, I've been to both areas before (2 or 3 times) and it's only now that it's a problem. Weird one....

that isn't weird, it is your answer.*

 

from a fresh start tgm to go to the problem locations and you'll probably be ok.

leave the area and use console to level up and try again.

rinse and repeat and when you get to a high enough level, the culprit will jump out and crash your game.

 

*disclaimer: this is total guesswork on my part, but crashes linked to player level could be due to an error in a leveled list

[Erenar]

Indeed, that's what I was thinking... maybe a mesh also that is only used on higher level NPCs. This is why I've got rid of the overhauls to see if it is an incorrectly formed LL, merge or mesh.

 

I hope....

[MightyZ0G]

if it isn't one of the obvious overhauls, it could be linked to the BoS who don't have much of a presence in the early game or one of the Mechanists bots, who are also absent from the early game.

[Erenar]

It is possibly (needs further testing) having old man stockton's quest to kill someone active at the same time as the automatron initial quest active... They're both in the same area and just tried without stockton's quest active and it worked fine.