SeyrenFreyr Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) Howdy. I play on PC and use Legendary Edition (Oldrim, was it?). I recently installed three mods into my game and though I was getting the odd crash or two randomly before, I am getting a constant crash regarding a particular scenario. First, my mods. I use LOOT incessantly, so I'm fairly certain the load order is up to snuff. A. NSM - FULL PACK_v.5.3.0_2K - For Original Skyrim Game-45807-5-3-0 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:59:38 PM 6/21/2017 7:30:52 AM ? All in One No Perk Requirements-74242-1-1nr Unassigned 7/5/2017 11:50:07 PM 7/5/2017 11:20:16 PM ? AmazingFollowerTweaks_1_66-15524-1-66 Unassigned 7/6/2017 9:11:59 AM 6/21/2017 8:26:21 AM ? aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Armors Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:05:21 PM 6/21/2017 7:03:27 AM 1.9 / ? CaBaLaMidianBorn Book of Silence - Creatures Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:04:42 PM 6/21/2017 6:56:46 AM 1.9 / ? CaBaLaMidianBorn Book of Silence - Dragonborn DLC Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:04:36 PM 6/22/2017 5:45:03 PM 1.9 / ? CaBaLAmulets and Rings-48526-1-1 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:53:12 PM 6/20/2017 9:00:58 PM ? AOF HD Tree LODs 2k-24364-1 Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:00:16 PM 6/21/2017 6:49:01 AM ? Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch-16225- Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:52:34 PM 6/20/2017 7:20:37 PM ? Apocalypse - SPERG Compatibility Patch WHY DOES THIS STUPID SITE NEED A DIFFERENT NAME IF I CAN CHANGE IT ANYWAY-16225- Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:52:27 PM 6/20/2017 7:21:02 PM ? Apocalypse v940-16225-9-40 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:52:29 PM 6/20/2017 7:18:45 PM ? Armed Children-68468-1-0 Unassigned 7/9/2017 10:22:27 AM 7/9/2017 8:43:12 AM ? ASIS Improved INI Files-53047-1-42-5-010 Unassigned 6/22/2017 8:50:01 PM 6/22/2017 8:49:16 PM ? ASIS Patcher 1-42-5 Hacked-18436-1-42-5-H Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:52:36 PM 6/20/2017 6:58:28 PM ? Beautiful Whiterun-12110 Unassigned 6/22/2017 8:23:53 PM 6/21/2017 6:50:41 AM ? Better Vampire Fangs and Glowing Eyes-38829-1-1 Unassigned 6/23/2017 7:44:25 AM 6/23/2017 6:44:27 AM ? Better Vampire Weapons DSR Patch-78737-1-3 Unassigned 6/23/2017 7:41:22 AM 6/23/2017 7:07:30 AM ? Better Vampires 8.0 Unassigned 6/25/2017 7:31:34 PM 6/25/2017 7:10:54 PM 8.0 / ? BrehaninBlocking Animation Pack v1.5-64510-1-5 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:52:12 PM 6/20/2017 8:43:26 AM ? Bloodmoon Rising Unassigned 6/23/2017 7:45:57 AM 6/23/2017 7:03:39 AM 4.0a / ? XeNoNBodySlide and Outfit Studio Unassigned 6/25/2017 3:43:48 PM 6/19/2017 12:20:28 PM 4.3.1 / ? Caliente and OusniusBound Armory Extravaganza - SPERG Patch-79686-1-2 Unassigned 7/5/2017 12:24:30 AM 7/5/2017 12:21:13 AM ? Bound Armory Extravaganza-79686-1-2 Unassigned 7/5/2017 12:23:26 AM 7/5/2017 12:21:30 AM ? Bow and Arrow Sounds-5289-2-2 Unassigned 6/25/2017 3:44:01 PM 6/22/2017 8:15:09 PM ? Breezrhome The Noble Family Expanded Ver. 1.1-65383-1-1 Unassigned 7/9/2017 2:08:30 PM 7/9/2017 10:15:35 AM ? Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE- Unassigned 6/25/2017 3:41:39 PM 6/19/2017 1:38:43 PM 3.4f / ? CalienteCCO - WAF True Weapons Patch-49791-1-6 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:54:46 PM 6/20/2017 9:05:44 PM ? Cell Stabilizer-41592- Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:56:35 PM 6/21/2017 6:28:44 AM ? Cherry's Eyes-60111-2-0 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:55:47 PM 6/22/2017 12:14:37 AM ? Children Fight Back-59945-v2-0 Unassigned 6/27/2017 7:23:12 PM 6/27/2017 6:40:44 PM ? Clothing and Clutter Fixes-43053-1-7 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:54:46 PM 6/20/2017 9:08:35 PM ? Combat behavior improved-67017-1-04a Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:52:11 PM 6/20/2017 8:45:27 AM ? Combat Evolved-56147-2-4b Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:52:10 PM 6/20/2017 8:15:54 AM ? Combined Hairstyle Collection-64251-1-0 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:52:10 PM 6/19/2017 12:32:53 AM ? Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade-49791-1-7 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:54:44 PM 6/20/2017 9:05:55 PM ? Craftable Gifts for Children 1.04-84524-1-04 Unassigned 7/9/2017 10:21:30 AM 7/9/2017 8:43:01 AM ? DDC2 Deadly Dragons Patch-76750-2-0-2 Unassigned 6/22/2017 8:23:46 PM 6/22/2017 7:24:09 PM ? Deadly_Dragons Unassigned 6/22/2017 8:29:49 PM 6/22/2017 8:28:15 PM 6.4.1 / ? 3JIouDemoniac_Texture Unassigned 6/25/2017 4:13:16 PM 6/19/2017 2:54:56 PM 1.12 / ? ReGenBot03Diverse Dragons Collection 2.0-76750-2-0-0 Unassigned 6/22/2017 8:23:37 PM 6/22/2017 7:28:47 PM ? Don't Show Headgears Unassigned 6/24/2017 7:35:23 AM 6/24/2017 7:34:41 AM 1.0 / ? Loshirai14Dual Sheath Redux Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:55:20 PM 6/20/2017 10:24:21 PM 1.7.3 / ? NeovalenDual Wield Parrying Random Attacks Dawnguard 2_50-9247-2-50 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:52:13 PM 6/20/2017 8:49:49 AM ? Encounter Zones Unlocked-84924-1-0 Unassigned 6/30/2017 8:11:03 AM 6/30/2017 8:10:42 AM ? Enhanced Lights and FX Unassigned 7/9/2017 10:03:05 AM 6/21/2017 7:00:34 AM 3.0 / ? anamorfusExtensible Follower Framework v4-0-2-12933-4-0-2 (1) Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:52:37 PM 6/20/2017 9:02:45 PM ? Face (Horn and Fang)-72263-3-0 Unassigned 6/29/2017 8:41:43 AM 6/29/2017 8:41:18 AM ? Face Light-13457-2-0 Unassigned 6/27/2017 7:22:59 PM 6/27/2017 6:19:00 PM ? Fair Skin Complexion for CBBE v9.2.1-51602-9-2 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:56:34 PM 6/22/2017 6:59:47 AM ? Falskaar V1_2_1final-37994-1-2-1final Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:06:02 PM 6/22/2017 6:12:00 PM ? Fantasy Soundtrack Project Unassigned 6/23/2017 6:14:16 AM 6/22/2017 8:19:58 PM 4.1 / ? AceeQFarm Animals - Hearthfire Edition-56961-1-7-1 Unassigned 6/23/2017 6:12:22 AM 6/22/2017 8:23:05 PM ? Feminine Hands - CBBE-49285-1-0 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:55:34 PM 6/21/2017 8:29:00 PM ? 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KS Hairdos Renewal-68311-1-4 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:51:18 PM 6/19/2017 9:33:22 AM ? Lind's Necromancer Robes - Black Phoenix-36049-3-2b Unassigned 7/5/2017 11:49:58 PM 7/5/2017 11:38:58 PM ? Lore Weapon Expansion-44179-1-4a Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:53:07 PM 6/20/2017 9:06:01 PM ? No Sunken Vamp Faces 1.0 Final (presumably)-77265-1-0 Unassigned 6/30/2017 12:18:30 AM 6/30/2017 12:16:04 AM ? Nock to Tip-65317-v-430b Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:52:15 PM 6/20/2017 7:01:00 PM ? NSM - SMIM Patch-45807-4-5-0 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:59:45 PM 6/21/2017 6:40:52 AM ? OBIS 2.01-31264-2-01 Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:01:54 PM 6/20/2017 7:37:29 PM ? Ordinator v915-68425-9-15 Unassigned 7/4/2017 9:36:00 PM 6/20/2017 7:16:08 PM ? Overknee_Rai(UNPBTBBP)Ver1.1-70362-1-1 Unassigned 6/22/2017 11:49:56 PM 6/22/2017 11:43:25 PM ? Overknee_Regia_Ver3.0-72263-3-0 Unassigned 6/29/2017 8:39:59 AM 6/29/2017 8:21:32 AM ? Patricia (Follower) (VanillaChildVoice)-76959-1-11 Unassigned 7/5/2017 11:00:27 PM 6/27/2017 5:49:48 PM ? Patricia (Follower)-76959-1-0 (1) Unassigned 7/5/2017 10:57:56 PM 7/5/2017 10:51:33 PM ? PC Head Tracking - MCM v4.2-72039-4-2 Unassigned 6/25/2017 12:44:53 PM 6/25/2017 12:42:36 PM ? PC Head Tracking Voice Pack - Female Young Eager JPN v3.8-72039- Unassigned 6/25/2017 1:14:50 PM 6/25/2017 1:02:59 PM ? Pretty Combat Animations Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:52:22 PM 6/20/2017 10:21:00 PM 1.376a / ? DualsunPretty Face-7887-1-9 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:49:43 PM 6/19/2017 10:22:51 AM ? Pretty Sit Idle v1.41d Unassigned 6/25/2017 3:39:45 PM 6/20/2017 10:17:49 PM 1.41d / ? dualsunRaceMenu v3-4-5-29624-3-4-5 Unassigned 6/25/2017 3:44:37 PM 6/19/2017 8:53:25 AM ? Raeza - Main-84143-1-2 Unassigned 7/5/2017 11:01:01 PM 6/27/2017 6:19:14 PM ? Rai Playable Character-80859-1-0 Unassigned 6/22/2017 11:49:33 PM 6/22/2017 11:42:18 PM ? Realistic Ragdolls and Force Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:55:22 PM 6/21/2017 12:32:18 AM 1.9 / ? dDefinderRealistic Water Two Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:04:26 PM 6/21/2017 6:47:27 AM 1.11 / ? isokuRelationship Dialogue Overhaul - RDO v2.0i-74568-2-0 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:52:43 PM 6/20/2017 7:01:17 PM ? Relighting Skyrim Series Unassigned 6/22/2017 11:04:49 PM 6/22/2017 11:03:32 PM 4 / ? NovakDalton and --JawZ--Re-Scaled XPMSE 3.64 Skeleton for RS Children (Default Head Size)-62830-3-64 Unassigned 6/23/2017 7:09:03 AM 6/22/2017 11:30:24 PM ? Roadsigns Redone-33603-1-1 Unassigned 6/23/2017 6:11:27 AM 6/22/2017 8:23:22 PM ? Rocking Stones Parallax for ENB - 2k CLASSIC GREY-38004-5-2 Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:00:57 PM 6/21/2017 7:01:06 AM ? Run For Your Lives-23906-2-1-0 Unassigned 6/23/2017 6:11:32 AM 6/22/2017 8:19:41 PM ? SafetyLoad 1_2-46465-1-2 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:56:35 PM 6/21/2017 6:30:25 AM ? Seranaholic v1_2h-38326-1-2h (1) Unassigned 7/7/2017 12:14:09 AM 7/7/2017 12:12:27 AM ? SFO Billboards for v2.5b (updated)-141- Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:00:15 PM 6/21/2017 6:48:57 AM ? SG Female Eyebrows-35327-1-0 Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:06:03 PM 6/19/2017 9:10:31 AM ? SG Hair Pack 268 by HelloSanta Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:07:12 PM 6/19/2017 12:38:24 AM ? ShowRaceMenu PreCacheKiller 1_3-33526-1-3 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:49:29 PM 6/19/2017 12:31:42 AM ? SkyFalls + SkyMills Unassigned 6/22/2017 8:06:55 PM 6/21/2017 6:58:23 AM 3.3.1 / ? SjoertJansenSkyrim -Community- Uncapper v1_15_2_0-1175-1-15-2-0 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:52:25 PM 6/20/2017 7:15:29 PM ? Skyrim Flora Overhaul v2.5b-141-2-5b Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:00:41 PM 6/21/2017 6:53:57 AM ? Skyrim HD - Terrain Parallax Tribute - Mesh Fix-64856-1-3 Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:00:12 PM 6/21/2017 6:41:21 AM ? Skyrim HD - Terrain Parallax Tribute - Roads 2k-64856-1-3 Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:00:10 PM 6/21/2017 6:43:40 AM ? Skyrim HD - Terrain Parallax Tribute - Update for 2k-64856-1-4 Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:00:08 PM 6/21/2017 6:44:16 AM ? Skyrim HD - Terrain Parallax Tribute 2k-64856-1-3 Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:00:06 PM 6/21/2017 6:48:32 AM ? SKYRIM Save Cleaner-31724-1-9-1 Unassigned 6/29/2017 12:25:41 AM 6/28/2017 6:53:40 PM ? SkyUI Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:49:30 PM 6/20/2017 7:50:38 AM 5.1 / ? SkyUI TeamSmithing Perks Overhaul Unassigned 6/23/2017 8:26:37 PM 6/20/2017 9:07:56 PM 3.4 / ? kryptopyrSPERG - Skyrim Perk Enhancements and Rebalanced Gameplay Unassigned 7/4/2017 9:35:33 PM 6/20/2017 7:15:21 PM 4.0 / ? seorinSPERG Weapon Styles-41609-1-10 Unassigned 7/4/2017 9:51:02 PM 6/20/2017 7:16:16 PM ? SPERG-Ordinator Combined-70159-5-0 Unassigned 7/4/2017 9:50:03 PM 6/20/2017 7:16:40 PM ? Static Mesh Improvement Mod Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:04:01 PM 6/21/2017 7:05:38 AM 2.04 / ? BrumbekTexture update for all versions-38326-Skin Unassigned 7/7/2017 12:14:59 AM 7/7/2017 12:13:39 AM ? The compatibility patch with the Vampire Lord and Werewolf-38326-1-6-1 Unassigned 6/25/2017 8:57:27 AM 6/23/2017 7:37:09 AM ? The Eyes Of Beauty 9-13722-9-0 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:49:34 PM 6/19/2017 5:16:03 AM ? The Kids Are Alright Clothing And Clutter Fixes Patch-83009-1-91 Unassigned 6/27/2017 7:22:57 PM 6/27/2017 6:41:17 PM ? The Kids Are Alright Falskaar Patch-83009-1-9 Unassigned 6/27/2017 7:21:18 PM 6/27/2017 6:41:25 PM ? The Ordinary Women v1.9 CBBE-70547-1-9 Unassigned 6/23/2017 7:46:57 AM 6/23/2017 6:18:40 AM ? TheCleaner-84917-1-2 Unassigned 6/30/2017 7:57:42 AM 6/30/2017 7:55:17 AM ? TK Dodge 3.0-20923-3-0 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:49:35 PM 6/20/2017 8:33:18 AM ? Unique Uniques Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:53:22 PM 6/20/2017 7:07:39 PM 1.8 / ? InsanitySorrowUnique Uniques WAFR 5.2 Compatible Replacement ESP-63111-2-1 Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:53:12 PM 6/20/2017 7:04:50 PM ? Unofficial Dawnguard Patch-23491-2-1-3b Unassigned 6/22/2017 8:52:19 PM 6/22/2017 8:45:27 PM ? Unofficial Dragonborn Patch-31083-2-1-3b Unassigned 6/22/2017 8:52:14 PM 6/22/2017 8:48:24 PM ? Unofficial Hearthfire Patch-25127-2-1-3b Unassigned 6/22/2017 8:51:56 PM 6/22/2017 8:47:30 PM ? Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch-71214-3-0-9 Unassigned 6/22/2017 8:31:28 PM 6/20/2017 9:16:56 PM ? Unofficial Skyrim Patch-19-2-1-3b Unassigned 6/22/2017 8:51:47 PM 6/22/2017 8:49:05 PM ? Updated Skeleton-84143-1-3 Unassigned 6/27/2017 7:23:29 PM 6/27/2017 6:18:37 PM ? Valerica High-res skin texture option-38326-1-7 Unassigned 7/7/2017 6:51:40 AM 7/7/2017 6:47:18 AM ? Valerica-38326-1-7 Unassigned 7/7/2017 6:51:22 AM 7/7/2017 6:47:19 AM ? VampireLeatherArmorSet-28887-1-4 Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:01:57 PM 6/21/2017 6:36:23 PM ? Verdant 2.2 - Full Version-60220-2-2 Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:00:54 PM 6/21/2017 7:01:33 AM ? VVE - Vannila Voice Expansion-36913-0-7 Unassigned 6/27/2017 7:23:58 PM 6/27/2017 5:51:03 PM ? Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade Unassigned 6/22/2017 6:52:48 PM 6/20/2017 7:01:25 PM 5.2 / ? kryptopyrWeather Control Center (1) Unassigned 6/23/2017 9:06:02 AM 6/21/2017 6:50:22 AM ? When Vampires Attack-28235-2-1-0 Unassigned 6/23/2017 6:11:43 AM 6/22/2017 8:19:00 PM ? WICO - Windsong Immersive Chracter Overhaul Unassigned 6/22/2017 8:24:28 PM 6/22/2017 6:22:45 PM ? Wyrmstooth 1_16_2-25704-1-16 Unassigned 6/22/2017 7:05:26 PM 6/22/2017 6:07:53 PM ? XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended Unassigned 6/25/2017 3:54:12 PM 6/19/2017 12:43:20 PM 3.94 / ? Groovtama Now, the mods that seem to be conflicting really badly are children related. I currently use The Kids are All Right, Falskaar patch for it and the clothing and clutter fixes patch for it. I have Children Fight Back, Breezehome The Noble Family Expanded ver 1.1, improved adoptions multiple adoptions ver 2.0 and Armed Children and Craftable Gifts for Children. I also have AFT and EFF. The problem seems to have appeared with the inclusion of my newest additions; Armed Children, Craftable Gifts for Children and Breezehome The Noble Family Expanded. Breezehome seems to work perfectly. I followed the instructions perfectly, as far as I could tell, entered the house and it was lovely. Worked as intended. The one NPC was in there but I just killed and disabled him with the command. I never actually got to make any use of Craftable Gifts for Children or Armed Children as I started to encounter the CTD with telling my children to move to Breezehome from Proudspire. After fast travelling to Whiterun and attempting to enter Breezehome, I get a CTD upon the loading completing. I cannot tell what the conflict is. There doesn't seem to be anything causing the crash save for moving the children to Breezehome and then entering Breezehome thereafter. Could the conflict be related to TKAA? Edit: I think I have found the problem. I turned off all of my TKAA mods and now my adopted children do not exist. That must be the conflict? They don't have the programming to move to a new home in other towns. They can only live in Solitude. If anyone understands what this means, is there a way to make this work? TKAA made some of the children non-potato, which is totally rad. All of this began because I adopted a third kid after the quest involving the snow elves. She basically looked just like them. Then I figured I needed more beds for the kids so I chose to mod Breezehome for the four bed house. Maybe I can reset them from being my children and re-adopt them, and send them to Breezehome from the get-go? Edited July 9, 2017 by SeyrenFreyr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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