savagepepper Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 So using semi-auto weapons in fallout 3 is completely useless for me right now. I've seen this issue posted before but I could never resolve i, myself. From what I hear it has something to do with vsync. Vsync is currently disabled in my fallout 3 options and I changed iPresentInterval=0. I bound my attack button to my keyboard and it works ok there, still a little buggy but there are very little gaps. I'm using a dell studio laptop with a ati mobility radeon hd 3400, there's no option to disable vsync. I tried using catalyst control center but the only version compatible with my laptop had no option to disable it. I'm using a ge wireless mini mouse, although I doubt it's my mouse causing the problem, I tried a wired mouse and it didn't work. What should I do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrindedStone Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Lower your distance sliders use 2 for actors 4 for the others, 6 for grass, halfway or 8 for tree an object LOD. Lower you CPU pre-rendered frames in your grapics card control panel. Lower your resolution below the screen native, and set the desktop to match. Though you may have to input this manually in the FalloutPref.ini as the game's launcher doesn't support settings for every supported resolution. A set up for example to run more than you would have or the default 4X AA 8X AF from the lowered overhead of a less than native resolution. Also for what HDR adds it takes just as much away both in performance an anything near the color white turns to bloom, so disable HDR and Bloom. I know you don't believe me, but I've seen other people doing the same thing. I have a 1600x1200 monitor, but run the desktop an the game in 1280x1024. It looks just as good as it did in 1600x1200, but more importantly the physics & animations are ultrasmooth. Another big problem is that you have changed the sync rate which doesn't work well on this game. Animations an physics are going to skip frames speed up an slow down depending on load. I know a lot of games work better with vsync disabled, but this isn't one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagepepper Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 Lower your distance sliders use 2 for actors 4 for the others, 6 for grass, halfway or 8 for tree an object LOD. Lower you CPU pre-rendered frames in your grapics card control panel. Lower your resolution below the screen native, and set the desktop to match. Though you may have to input this manually in the FalloutPref.ini as the game's launcher doesn't support settings for every supported resolution. A set up for example to run more than you would have or the default 4X AA 8X AF from the lowered overhead of a less than native resolution. Also for what HDR adds it takes just as much away both in performance an anything near the color white turns to bloom, so disable HDR and Bloom. I know you don't believe me, but I've seen other people doing the same thing. I have a 1600x1200 monitor, but run the desktop an the game in 1280x1024. It looks just as good as it did in 1600x1200, but more importantly the physics & animations are ultrasmooth. Another big problem is that you have changed the sync rate which doesn't work well on this game. Animations an physics are going to skip frames speed up an slow down depending on load. I know a lot of games work better with vsync disabled, but this isn't one of them. I followed all of your advice but I still couldn't get it to work, the shooting is a little more consistent but i think that's just the placebo effect at work. I did however get some fps boost so thanks for that, I think it could be my mouse but I still don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrindedStone Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) Bind attack to the keyboard an press that button an see. The weapon condition will also factor into fire rate which is somewhat effected by weapon skill as well. You can get a fresh 10mm for diagnostic reasons player.additem 0000434f Though I also suggest starting a new game as many problems can become locked into save games. Look into the Fallout 3 configurator rather than the tweekguide. You might have better luck with it. I have seen some mods that change semi auto to full auto, but this is only from them being lazy about the clicking each time part. Something like this might help while in combat which it seems that full auto always get priority over semi by the engine. I've had some builds where I couldn't fire semi auto because there were so many guns being fired at me. However this issue stopped after upgrading the grapics card from a 512 Mb 8800 GT to 1Gb 9800 GT. You can also go into settings an set the master volume slider all the way down. This would tell you if the issue is related to sound. From there you could set both the music an radio sliders to zero, but then when you are in-game an wanted to hear music/radio only turn on the one you wanted to hear. Then turn it off when you are done or later on in the main menu before you load in the next day. Edited February 28, 2012 by GrindedStone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrindedStone Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Test it in windowed mode then look into the fake windowed mode mod. This will run the game in full screen in windowed mode, but without the actual window part. I'd heard about it but I didn't know it was an actual .exe or mod people were using. In testing many systems have avoided issues and also gained some performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagepepper Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 Test it in windowed mode then look into the fake windowed mode mod. This will run the game in full screen in windowed mode, but without the actual window part. I'd heard about it but I didn't know it was an actual .exe or mod people were using. In testing many systems have avoided issues and also gained some performance. I tried windowed mode at 800x500 and it worked perfectly with a 10fps boost, I tried 1024x640 and it was better but still was a little buggy and had a 5fps boost, 1280x800 made no difference.I tried the fake windowed mode but it didn't work. I guess I have to play in 1024x640 letterbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrindedStone Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 They say a fake full screen is more stable an faster. There are some performance based mods you could try. It didn't play very well for me on a 512Mb card. It also fried two of those cards in only a year an a half. Part of this was because of my settings were too high, an another part was the mods I was using. In fact I had to start editing weapons in order to get double tap semi auto. You can try this with the 10mm pistol. Increase it's attack animaton multi from 1.0 to 2.0 an it's now rated at 12 shots per second, but sometimes I had to use 3.0 an 18. These weapons can never be put in a NPC's hands though. (which they fire them at full auto rates an it also speeds up VATS fire rates) This issue you have isn't with the weapons it's with your computer not being powerful enough. But perhaps if you indeed want to fry your computer anyway it might serve as a hotfix. The performance based mods that come to mind are the 4Gb enabler if you run a Windows 7 machine an have a lot of RAM. Also there is a mod that improves combat by running a script that disables NPC advanced functions while in combat. There are mods that will remove the tracers from bullets. The game tends to like having a defragmented hard drive so don't forget. Then just search the world performance on the nexus. Certian mods will also slow down your game due to modders having insanely powerful systems. I still edit some mods I use in order to optimize them for the old low power rig I use. Then you can turn the music sliders in-game all the way down, an then only turn them on one at a time when you actually want to hear music. Find out what the native screen resolution is. Set it in the desktop to one aspect ratio size lower then also the game. If it's a 4:3 screen use those resolutions if it's widescreen use the 16:9 or whatever. You can also run custom resolutions by setting it in the FalloutPref.ini The game has to be set to use windowed mode. Then run the fake full screen .exe. It will launch then after a while it will hide the windowed border. I reckon it gets installed to the directory where the game's .exe is. List of 4:3 Monitor ResolutionsResolution - Aspect ratio640x480-----4:3800x600-----4:31024x768-----4:31152x864-----4:31280x960-----4:3 1400x1050-----4:31600x1200-----4:32048x1536-----4:33200x2400-----4:34000x3000-----4:36400x4800-----4:3 List of 16:9 Widescreen ResolutionsResolution - Aspect ratio852x480-----16:91280x720-----16:91365x768-----16:91600x900-----16:91920x1080-----16:9 List of 16:10 Widescreen ResolutionsResolution - Aspect ratio1440x900-----16:101680x1050-----16:101920x1200-----16:102560x1600-----16:103840x2400-----16:107680x4800-----16:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mawymanutanut Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Hello guy I found and resolve the problem with the fire rateOne of the guy say the mods Sharing and Caring companions is the problem, Yes but also your fault. When on the game window sharing and cariing companion apears he demand to choose a hotkey after press OK. You need to choose a Hotkey bug me my mistake is I have press the left mouse,,,,Attack.... and because of that the fire rate are one shot by clic on the mouse; to resolve the problem you only need to remove the mods, with fallout mod manager you only need to clic on the mode scrare start the game with your actual progression the problem it suposed to be solved.. make new save close the game clic on the scrare of the mods and load your new save. en went dont make the same mistake when the window apeare. clic one time on ok and choose a hotkey for the mods me a chose the hotkey B because is not use for other thing. You dont need to do aniting else. That work for me And i dont need to change aniting else. Thank to informe me if the solution work. have a good game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntous Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Hello guy I found and resolve the problem with the fire rateOne of the guy say the mods Sharing and Caring companions is the problem, Yes but also your fault. When on the game window sharing and cariing companion apears he demand to choose a hotkey after press OK. You need to choose a Hotkey bug me my mistake is I have press the left mouse,,,,Attack.... and because of that the fire rate are one shot by clic on the mouse; to resolve the problem you only need to remove the mods, with fallout mod manager you only need to clic on the mode scrare start the game with your actual progression the problem it suposed to be solved.. make new save close the game clic on the scrare of the mods and load your new save. en went dont make the same mistake when the window apeare. clic one time on ok and choose a hotkey for the mods me a chose the hotkey B because is not use for other thing. You dont need to do aniting else. That work for me And i dont need to change aniting else. Thank to informe me if the solution work. have a good gameWow. That was my exact problem. Thanks man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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