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Hi guys ! I finally was able to make a stabilized moded game. it has taken me long, almost a week now, from choosing mods, realising adding mods is no easy task, re-evaluating mods i need, learning how to mod correctly... I've come a long way guys ! I've done the trials, now I'm worthy of trying to be worthy of my dragon born title !

LIES ! My game keep on crashing to desktop. Either right after character creation, either right when I load a game that was created with this mod set. (doesn't crash when loading old games)

I've used loot, cleaned with tes5edit, merged without leveled lists, wryebatched the leveled lists, used the pama perkus maximus patchus thingus. I've check my memory block log, it has nothing to do with hitting memory cap.
I'm using skse, the version on steam. Using Nexus mod manager. Playing on the latest version of Oldrim legendary edition.
Game's located at E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Skyrim

Here's my setup :
Asus P8p67 Pro Rev 3.1 Intel COre i5 2500K AMD Radeon HD 6950 2go 2 x 4GB DDR3 Corsair CML8GX3M2A 1600 C9

still I wasn't over with it. Creating a new game crashed the game everytime. Sometime before even being able to create my character, but mostly right after I finished creating my character.

 

I activated the papyrus, last entry was about extendedui, and desactivating it worked. But I need it for the perkus maximus descriptus redonus (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/80079/?). so if you guys have an idea of why extendui is making my leveled list of books bugging... (I suppose it's about leveled list generation because everything was working good on loaded game, and because disabling extended ui resolved the problem)

 

EDIT : Ok, I was wrong. I don't know why everything went allright with the try I did with Extended UI off, but it's clearly a coincidence. I can't launch a game still. When I created my character with alternate start, everytime I crashed when I finished, all I saw was a bug where I could see outside whyle I was in a cave. But trying to go without alternate start didn't go well either ! I couldn't even watch the litle intro... Papyrus isn't helping this time, every logs stops somewhere different... This bug is caused by hardcore elfx and alternate start but is only visual and shouldn't be too much of a problem.

I disabled all plugins and enabled them 10 by 10 to see and locate wich plugin was making me crash. I've gone thro it all, and whyle pama seems to be not helping at all, I have good and bad results without link to what mods are disabled or enabled... And I can't load a game I created with those mods without it to crash ! It seems the more I disable, to more stable it gets, but that's all I've been able to deduct from this technique from now... I'm getting tired now, I wanna play omg. Still on it, but I guess I could really use a hand. I mean it's challenging and all, and it's needed... but damn can't I play some and not just only trying set my game...

Here's my load order
0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
7 7 Falskaar.esm
8 8 Wyrmstooth.esp
9 9 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
10 a BSAssets.esm
11 b BSHeartland.esm
12 c SkyMoMod.esm
13 d ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
14 e hdtHighHeel.esm
15 f ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
16 10 CompanionArissa.esm
17 11 Skytest Monster Mod.esp
18 12 Realistic AI Detection 2 - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.esp
19 13 Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp
20 14 SkyUI.esp
21 15 SkyTweak.esp
22 16 CombatFatigue.esp
23 17 Extended UI.esp
24 18 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
25 19 ELFX - Exteriors.esp
26 1a AOS.esp
27 1b 3DNPC.esp
28 1c ETaC - Complete.esp
29 1d Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
30 1e Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
31 1f Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
32 20 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
33 21 Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp
34 22 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
35 23 Rebirth Monster.esp
36 24 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
37 25 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
38 26 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
39 27 Blues Skyrim.esp
40 28 MoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esp
41 29 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
42 2a Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp
43 2b Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp
44 2c Better Vampires.esp
45 2d TKDodge.esp
46 2e Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
47 2f Helgen Reborn.esp
48 30 hold guard.esp
49 31 OBIS.esp
50 32 OBISDB.esp
51 33 Civil War Overhaul.esp
52 34 Castle Riverwood.esp
53 35 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
54 36 ELFX - Weathers.esp
55 37 Immersive Whiterun.esp
56 38 Immersive Solstheim.esp
57 39 zMirai.esp
58 3a PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
59 3b DeadlyDragons.esp
60 3c DiverseDragonsCollection3.esp
61 3d DDC3-DD Loremonger patch.esp
62 3e PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
63 3f PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
64 40 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
65 41 PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp
66 42 DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp
67 43 Grimy Utilities Interface.esp
68 44 When Vampires Attack.esp
69 45 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
70 46 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
71 47 Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp
72 48 Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp
73 49 RaceMenu.esp
74 4a RaceMenuPlugin.esp
75 4b CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
76 4c KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
77 4d SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
78 4e SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
79 4f FNIS.esp
80 50 CWIELnFXPatch.esp
81 51 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
82 52 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
83 53 MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
84 54 mintylightningmod.esp
85 55 AwpSylvanas.esp
86 56 AmazingFollowerTweaks-3DNPC.esp
87 57 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
88 58 Immersive Weapons.esp
89 59 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
90 5a PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
91 5b Inconsequential NPCs.esp
92 5c Cloaks.esp
93 5d Skyrim Trading Posts.esp
94 5e Immersive Patrols II.esp
95 5f ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
96 60 SofiaFollower.esp
97 61 IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp
98 62 ForgottenCity.esp
99 63 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul Lite.esp
100 64 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
101 65 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
102 66 Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp
103 67 Wildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.esp
104 68 Vigor - Combat and Injuries.esp
105 69 PerMa Perk Descriptions Redone.esp
106 6a Vigor - Movement Tweaks.esp
107 6b Vigor MT - Apocalypse Longstride Patch.esp
108 6c WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
109 6d Immersive Speechcraft.esp
110 6e DeadlierPosion.esp
111 6f Unique Uniques.esp
112 70 SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
113 71 MIDFollowMeCloser.esp
114 72 Minerva.esp
115 73 Souls_Quick_Menu.esp
116 74 AOS2_DD Patch.esp
117 75 AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp
118 76 AOS2_WAF Patch.esp
119 77 AOS2_Unique Uniques Patch.esp
120 78 fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp
121 79 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
122 7a Dead Body Collision.esp
123 7b Traps Are Dangerous.esp
124 7c WM Trap Fixes.esp
125 7d Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
126 7e Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp
127 7f XPMSE.esp
128 80 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
129 81 ELFX - Hardcore.esp
130 82 TES5Merged.esp
131 83 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
132 84 ASIS-Dependency.esp
133 85 PatchusMaximus.esp

see ya on the lands of skyrim =)

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Edit : Added my comment to the first post. Since I'm actively trying to fix my game the title of the topic is not correct anymore, it's obviously not extended UI that's making my game crash. Can't find the "edit title" option, I guess it doesn't exist. Not sure if I should repost or ask gently someone that can to rename it to : "CTD on new/loaded new game"

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Allright it seems I was able to solve my problem by allocating more memory into the second memory heap using SKSE.ini. (Not sure if said right) For those who might have similar issues, it's located into Skyrim/data/SKSE/SKSE.ini. If you don't have it, then you must create it. (You need skse plugin obviously)

I changed

DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=1024
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256
into
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=1024
ScrapHeapSizeMB=512

I also changed my load order a bit, wich solved my previous problem wich caused the alternate start cave to be open on the sky. I'm not sure about the last part of it, as I followed guides here and there but I couldn't say wich was gameplay overhaul (Is IA gameplay overhaul ?)
Here's the example I followed
#01: Your ESM Files;
#02: Bug-Fix type Mods;
#03: Game Structure and/or UI Mods:
#04: Character Appearance Mods (For NPCs and Self);
#05: Mods that Add and/or Change Locations; *
#06: Mods that Add and/or Change Items;
#07: Mods that Add NPCs;
#08: Texture Mods;
#09: Environmental Mods (things like Climates of Tamriel, Sounds of Skyrim, etc.);
#10: Mods with Gameplay Changes; Then,
#11: Reproccers, AV, and Bashed Patches.

Here's my new load order

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
BSAssets.esm
BSHeartland.esm
CompanionArissa.esm
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
SkyMoMod.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp
SkyTweak.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
XPMSE.esp
SkyUI.esp
Extended UI.esp
Souls_Quick_Menu.esp
Grimy Utilities Interface.esp
IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
FNIS.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
ETaC - Complete.esp
ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
Immersive Whiterun.esp
Immersive Solstheim.esp
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
Blues Skyrim.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
MoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esp
hold guard.esp
Castle Riverwood.esp
Skyrim Trading Posts.esp
Minerva.esp
ForgottenCity.esp
CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp
Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
DeadlierPosion.esp
3DNPC.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
AwpSylvanas.esp
SofiaFollower.esp
zMirai.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
OBIS.esp
OBISDB.esp
DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp
Skytest Monster Mod.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
ELFX - Weathers.esp
ELFX - Hardcore.esp
CWIELnFXPatch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
AOS.esp
AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp
AOS2_WAF Patch.esp
AOS2_Unique Uniques Patch.esp

----> starting here I'm not sur about load order, it's following loot and creators indications but I no handpicking <-----
Realistic AI Detection 2 - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.esp
Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp
CombatFatigue.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Better Vampires.esp
TKDodge.esp
Civil War Overhaul.esp
PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
DiverseDragonsCollection3.esp
PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
DDC3-DD Loremonger patch.esp
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks-3DNPC.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul Lite.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp
Wildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.esp
Vigor - Combat and Injuries.esp
PerMa Perk Descriptions Redone.esp
Vigor - Movement Tweaks.esp
Vigor MT - Apocalypse Longstride Patch.esp
Immersive Speechcraft.esp
SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
MIDFollowMeCloser.esp
AOS2_DD Patch.esp
fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
Traps Are Dangerous.esp
WM Trap Fixes.esp
Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
TES5Merged.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
ASIS-Dependency.esp
PatchusMaximus.esp

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