Lyeus Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 (edited) Hi guys ! I finally was able to make a stabilized moded game. it has taken me long, almost a week now, from choosing mods, realising adding mods is no easy task, re-evaluating mods i need, learning how to mod correctly... I've come a long way guys ! I've done the trials, now I'm worthy of trying to be worthy of my dragon born title ! LIES ! My game keep on crashing to desktop. Either right after character creation, either right when I load a game that was created with this mod set. (doesn't crash when loading old games)I've used loot, cleaned with tes5edit, merged without leveled lists, wryebatched the leveled lists, used the pama perkus maximus patchus thingus. I've check my memory block log, it has nothing to do with hitting memory cap.I'm using skse, the version on steam. Using Nexus mod manager. Playing on the latest version of Oldrim legendary edition.Game's located at E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\SkyrimHere's my setup :Asus P8p67 Pro Rev 3.1 Intel COre i5 2500K AMD Radeon HD 6950 2go 2 x 4GB DDR3 Corsair CML8GX3M2A 1600 C9still I wasn't over with it. Creating a new game crashed the game everytime. Sometime before even being able to create my character, but mostly right after I finished creating my character. I activated the papyrus, last entry was about extendedui, and desactivating it worked. But I need it for the perkus maximus descriptus redonus (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/80079/?). so if you guys have an idea of why extendui is making my leveled list of books bugging... (I suppose it's about leveled list generation because everything was working good on loaded game, and because disabling extended ui resolved the problem) EDIT : Ok, I was wrong. I don't know why everything went allright with the try I did with Extended UI off, but it's clearly a coincidence. I can't launch a game still. When I created my character with alternate start, everytime I crashed when I finished, all I saw was a bug where I could see outside whyle I was in a cave. But trying to go without alternate start didn't go well either ! I couldn't even watch the litle intro... Papyrus isn't helping this time, every logs stops somewhere different... This bug is caused by hardcore elfx and alternate start but is only visual and shouldn't be too much of a problem.I disabled all plugins and enabled them 10 by 10 to see and locate wich plugin was making me crash. I've gone thro it all, and whyle pama seems to be not helping at all, I have good and bad results without link to what mods are disabled or enabled... And I can't load a game I created with those mods without it to crash ! It seems the more I disable, to more stable it gets, but that's all I've been able to deduct from this technique from now... I'm getting tired now, I wanna play omg. Still on it, but I guess I could really use a hand. I mean it's challenging and all, and it's needed... but damn can't I play some and not just only trying set my game... Here's my load order 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 7 7 Falskaar.esm 8 8 Wyrmstooth.esp 9 9 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm 10 a BSAssets.esm 11 b BSHeartland.esm 12 c SkyMoMod.esm 13 d ETaC - RESOURCES.esm 14 e hdtHighHeel.esm 15 f ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 16 10 CompanionArissa.esm 17 11 Skytest Monster Mod.esp 18 12 Realistic AI Detection 2 - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.esp 19 13 Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp 20 14 SkyUI.esp 21 15 SkyTweak.esp 22 16 CombatFatigue.esp 23 17 Extended UI.esp 24 18 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 25 19 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 26 1a AOS.esp 27 1b 3DNPC.esp 28 1c ETaC - Complete.esp 29 1d Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 30 1e Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 31 1f Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 32 20 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 33 21 Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp 34 22 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 35 23 Rebirth Monster.esp 36 24 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 37 25 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 38 26 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 39 27 Blues Skyrim.esp 40 28 MoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esp 41 29 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 42 2a Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp 43 2b Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp 44 2c Better Vampires.esp 45 2d TKDodge.esp 46 2e Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp 47 2f Helgen Reborn.esp 48 30 hold guard.esp 49 31 OBIS.esp 50 32 OBISDB.esp 51 33 Civil War Overhaul.esp 52 34 Castle Riverwood.esp 53 35 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 54 36 ELFX - Weathers.esp 55 37 Immersive Whiterun.esp 56 38 Immersive Solstheim.esp 57 39 zMirai.esp 58 3a PerkusMaximus_Master.esp 59 3b DeadlyDragons.esp 60 3c DiverseDragonsCollection3.esp 61 3d DDC3-DD Loremonger patch.esp 62 3e PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp 63 3f PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp 64 40 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp 65 41 PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp 66 42 DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp 67 43 Grimy Utilities Interface.esp 68 44 When Vampires Attack.esp 69 45 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 70 46 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 71 47 Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp 72 48 Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp 73 49 RaceMenu.esp 74 4a RaceMenuPlugin.esp 75 4b CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp 76 4c KS Hairdos - HDT.esp 77 4d SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp 78 4e SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp 79 4f FNIS.esp 80 50 CWIELnFXPatch.esp 81 51 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 82 52 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 83 53 MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp 84 54 mintylightningmod.esp 85 55 AwpSylvanas.esp 86 56 AmazingFollowerTweaks-3DNPC.esp 87 57 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 88 58 Immersive Weapons.esp 89 59 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp 90 5a PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp 91 5b Inconsequential NPCs.esp 92 5c Cloaks.esp 93 5d Skyrim Trading Posts.esp 94 5e Immersive Patrols II.esp 95 5f ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp 96 60 SofiaFollower.esp 97 61 IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp 98 62 ForgottenCity.esp 99 63 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul Lite.esp100 64 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp101 65 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp102 66 Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp103 67 Wildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.esp104 68 Vigor - Combat and Injuries.esp105 69 PerMa Perk Descriptions Redone.esp106 6a Vigor - Movement Tweaks.esp107 6b Vigor MT - Apocalypse Longstride Patch.esp108 6c WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp109 6d Immersive Speechcraft.esp110 6e DeadlierPosion.esp111 6f Unique Uniques.esp112 70 SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp113 71 MIDFollowMeCloser.esp114 72 Minerva.esp115 73 Souls_Quick_Menu.esp116 74 AOS2_DD Patch.esp117 75 AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp118 76 AOS2_WAF Patch.esp119 77 AOS2_Unique Uniques Patch.esp120 78 fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp121 79 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp122 7a Dead Body Collision.esp123 7b Traps Are Dangerous.esp124 7c WM Trap Fixes.esp125 7d Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp126 7e Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp127 7f XPMSE.esp128 80 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp129 81 ELFX - Hardcore.esp130 82 TES5Merged.esp131 83 Bashed Patch, 0.esp132 84 ASIS-Dependency.esp133 85 PatchusMaximus.esp see ya on the lands of skyrim =) Edited July 29, 2017 by Lyeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyeus Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 (edited) Edit : Added my comment to the first post. Since I'm actively trying to fix my game the title of the topic is not correct anymore, it's obviously not extended UI that's making my game crash. Can't find the "edit title" option, I guess it doesn't exist. Not sure if I should repost or ask gently someone that can to rename it to : "CTD on new/loaded new game" Edited July 28, 2017 by Lyeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyeus Posted July 29, 2017 Author Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) Allright it seems I was able to solve my problem by allocating more memory into the second memory heap using SKSE.ini. (Not sure if said right) For those who might have similar issues, it's located into Skyrim/data/SKSE/SKSE.ini. If you don't have it, then you must create it. (You need skse plugin obviously)I changedDefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=1024ScrapHeapSizeMB=256intoDefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=1024ScrapHeapSizeMB=512I also changed my load order a bit, wich solved my previous problem wich caused the alternate start cave to be open on the sky. I'm not sure about the last part of it, as I followed guides here and there but I couldn't say wich was gameplay overhaul (Is IA gameplay overhaul ?)Here's the example I followed #01: Your ESM Files;#02: Bug-Fix type Mods;#03: Game Structure and/or UI Mods:#04: Character Appearance Mods (For NPCs and Self);#05: Mods that Add and/or Change Locations; *#06: Mods that Add and/or Change Items;#07: Mods that Add NPCs;#08: Texture Mods;#09: Environmental Mods (things like Climates of Tamriel, Sounds of Skyrim, etc.);#10: Mods with Gameplay Changes; Then,#11: Reproccers, AV, and Bashed Patches.Here's my new load order Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawnguard.esmHearthFires.esmDragonborn.esmUnofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.espSkyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esmhdtHighHeel.esmETaC - RESOURCES.esmFalskaar.esmWyrmstooth.espBSAssets.esmBSHeartland.esmCompanionArissa.esmSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esmSkyMoMod.esmClimatesOfTamriel.esmClothing & Clutter Fixes.espWeapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espWeapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.espSkyTweak.espComplete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espXPMSE.espSkyUI.espExtended UI.espSouls_Quick_Menu.espGrimy Utilities Interface.espIcePenguinWorldMapPaper.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espKS Hairdos - HDT.espFNIS.espHelgen Reborn.espETaC - Complete.espETaC - Dragon Bridge South.espImmersive Whiterun.espImmersive Solstheim.espImmersive Orc Strongholds.espBlues Skyrim.espCollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.espMoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esphold guard.espCastle Riverwood.espSkyrim Trading Posts.espMinerva.espForgottenCity.espCalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.espHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espImmersive Weapons.espWeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.espWeapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.espCloaks.espCloaks - Dawnguard.espTribunal Robes by Zairaam.espTribunal Maskes by Zairaam.espChesko_WearableLantern.espUnique Uniques.espPrvtIRoyalArmory.espDeadlierPosion.esp3DNPC.espInconsequential NPCs.espAwpSylvanas.espSofiaFollower.espzMirai.espImmersive Patrols II.espOBIS.espOBISDB.espDIVERSE SKYRIM.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espSkytest Immersive Creatures.espSkytest Monster Mod.espRebirth Monster.espRebirth Monster - SIC Patch.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espELFX - Exteriors.espELFX - Weathers.espELFX - Hardcore.espCWIELnFXPatch.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.espmintylightningmod.espMintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.espAOS.espAOS2_CoT3_1_patch.espAOS2_WAF Patch.espAOS2_Unique Uniques Patch.esp----> starting here I'm not sur about load order, it's following loot and creators indications but I no handpicking <----- Realistic AI Detection 2 - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.espBetter Stealth AI for Followers.espDragon Combat Overhaul.espCombatFatigue.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.espBetter Vampires.espTKDodge.espCivil War Overhaul.espPerkusMaximus_Master.espDeadlyDragons.espDiverseDragonsCollection3.espPerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.espDDC3-DD Loremonger patch.espPerkusMaximus_Thief.espPerkusMaximus_Mage.espPerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.espWhen Vampires Attack.espSMIM-DragonbornTernFix.espSMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.espAmazingFollowerTweaks-3DNPC.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.espWildcat - Combat of Skyrim.espPerkusMaximus_Warrior.espImmersive Citizens - AI Overhaul Lite.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espApocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.espWildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.espVigor - Combat and Injuries.espPerMa Perk Descriptions Redone.espVigor - Movement Tweaks.espVigor MT - Apocalypse Longstride Patch.espImmersive Speechcraft.espSMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.espMIDFollowMeCloser.espAOS2_DD Patch.espfFastTravelSpeedMult_4.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espDead Body Collision.espTraps Are Dangerous.espWM Trap Fixes.espIllustrious HDT Cloaks.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espTES5Merged.espBashed Patch, 0.espASIS-Dependency.espPatchusMaximus.esp Edited July 29, 2017 by Lyeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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