lexablackbird Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) Okay, maybe not all. Most I can't tell, but some I definitely can - teddy bears, telephones, typewriters, alarm clocks. I forget which axis that is, but they are not upside down, they are just facing the wrong way. The rotation axis is relative to the object, not the world - if a clock is supposed to be lying on its back, for instance, it's lying on its face instead. Computer monitors are fine though, as well as safes and armoires and things. So it's definitely not all of them, then. I didn't notice when this first happened, so I don't know if it's a particular mod or not. Anyone have any ideas? Or seen anything like this? Here's my load order, copied from LOOT: 0 0 Fallout4.esm1 1 DLCRobot.esm2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm3 3 DLCCoast.esm4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp8 8 SettlementKeywords.esm9 9 ArmorKeywords.esm10 a TrueStormsFO4.esm11 b Homemaker.esm12 c AutoUnequipPipboy.esp13 d HUDFramework.esm14 e SimSettlements.esm15 f Adjustable UI Volume Sliders.esp16 10 FactionPinups.esp17 11 Business Settlements.esp18 12 BusinessSettlements-SKPatch.esp19 13 Colored Workshop Lights.esp20 14 mso_sms.esp21 15 GlovesOfTheCommonwealth.esp22 16 EferasShoulderBag.esp23 17 AnV Camo Backpacks.esp24 18 3in1.esp25 19 UniquePlayer.esp26 1a WAYN_CompanionTracking.esp27 1b Locksmith.esp28 1c Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp29 1d Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp30 1e Lots More Facial Hair.esp31 1f Preset Replacers.esp32 20 SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp33 21 RecycleBottles.esp34 22 Dogmeat's Backpack.esp35 23 WAYN_CompanionTracking_Automatron.esp36 24 DX Adventurer Outfit.esp37 25 DX Commonwealth Mini Dresses.esp38 26 DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp39 27 DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp40 28 Strong Back - DLCCoast.esp41 29 Northland Diggers New.esp42 2a DX Chem I Care Outfit.esp43 2b DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp44 2c 1nivDX Courser X-92 Power Suit Male.esp45 2d OutfitSwitcher.esp46 2e HoK.esp47 2f Glorious Paintings.esp48 30 Lacy Underwear.esp49 31 Sporty Underwear.esp50 32 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp51 33 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - AWKCR.esp52 34 UnarmedHotkey.esp53 35 HN66Fo4_EarringsV1.esp54 36 Armorsmith Extended.esp55 37 RaiderOverhaul.esp56 38 IST-PacifyPerks.esp57 39 Crossbow.esp58 3a FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp59 3b FunctionalDisplays.esp60 3c FunctionalDisplays-MISC-VIS.esp61 3d EndorsCustomCombatArmor.esp62 3e EndorsCustomCombatArmor_AE.espARMSMTH - CCCA -Combat Helmet Illumination 1.2.esp63 3f Craftable Armor Size.esp64 40 Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp65 41 EndorsCustomCombatArmor_AzarHair.esp66 42 EndorsCustomCombatArmor_ChromeSynths.esp67 43 EndorsCustomCombatArmor_Valdacil.esp68 44 Build_all_Beds.esp69 45 SettlersRename.esp70 46 MSCCMRD.esp71 47 MGSAiming.esp72 48 Insignificant Object Remover.esp73 49 BetterJunkFences.esp74 4a Crafting Workbench.esp75 4b HubrisShoulderBags.esp76 4c Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp77 4d Xan-Ammo-All-DLC-w-c.esp78 4e More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp79 4f Skip DIMA memories.esp80 50 S_Uniform_M.esp81 51 S_Uniform_F.esp82 52 SignsOfTheTimesCategorized.esp83 53 Better Vendor Stalls.esp84 54 Standalone.esp85 55 OCDecorator.esp86 56 OCDispenser.esp87 57 OCDecoratorDLC.esp88 58 SKE_OCD_Patch.esp89 59 Enough About the Settlements Preston.esp90 5a BetterSettlers.esp91 5b xA_Vault88Extras.esp92 5c MoreVaultRooms.esp93 5d VaultPlus.esp94 5e VaultPlus_Railings.esp95 5f VaultPlus_MVR.esp96 60 Subtle Face Tweaks - Curie.esp97 61 SkipHSH1_6.esp98 62 DA Merged 11 Pack.esp99 63 Eli_ArmourCollection.esp100 64 Armorsmith Deserter X.esp101 65 ShirtlessNR.esp102 66 Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp103 67 NX Pro - Farm Core.esp104 68 NX Pro - Farm Core - Homemaker.esp105 69 NX Pro - Farm Core - Valdacil's Item Sorting.esp106 6a ValdacilsItemSorting - Raider Overhaul TAGS - AE.esp107 6b Raider Overhaul - AE Patch.esp108 6c AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp109 6d TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp110 6e TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp111 6f DarkerNights.esp112 70 DarkerNightsDetection.esp113 71 EndorsCustomCombatArmor_CAS_CCA_Cost.esp114 72 dinoshelf.esp115 73 dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp116 74 DGDiamondJukebox.esp117 75 ExoticHarvestables.esp118 76 xA_VaultCombatSecurity.esp119 77 SchoolDeskObject.esp120 78 dcc-weap-pocketsand.esp121 79 CBBE.esp122 7a JetpackUpgraded.esp123 7b T51NukaJetPack.esp124 7c LooksMenu.esp125 7d LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp126 7e OverlaySample.esp127 7f LMBTOverlays.espSACS.esp128 80 FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL-VIS.esp129 81 TagBagPlus.esp130 82 FunctionalDisplays-AID-VIS.esp131 83 GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp132 84 Crimsomrider's 1950s Feminine Outfits.esp133 85 AdvBubbleTurretSet-Real.esp134 86 AdvBubbleTurretSet.esp135 87 AdvBubbleTurretSet-Real-SKPatch.esp136 88 AA Better Companions - No Conflicts.esp137 89 KSHairdos.esp138 8a CompanionsGoHome.esp139 8b VltElevatorDLC.esp140 8c CROSS_GoreCrits.esp141 8d CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp142 8e DavesPoses.esp143 8f Oniskin.esp144 90 3dscopes.esp145 91 3dscopes-AddToSpawnList.esp146 92 3dscopes-framework.esp147 93 3dscopes-FarHarbor.esp148 94 3dscopes-NukaWorld.esp149 95 SettlementMenuManager.esp150 96 ProvisionerBackPack.esp151 97 Survivalist Go-Bags_AE_AWKCR.esp152 98 Reload Sounds.esp153 99 CREAtiveClutter.esp154 9a ImmersiveVendors.esp155 9b AllSetsExtended.esp156 9c VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp157 9d GunnersOverhaul.esp158 9e BTInteriors_Project.esp159 9f Snappy_HouseK.esp160 a0 DiamondNewVendors.esp161 a1 subwayrunnnerdynamiclighting.esp162 a2 nvvault1080.esp163 a3 MosesSubmarine.esp164 a4 ModdableRobotSettlers.esp165 a5 SameSexFemale.esp166 a6 CombatZoneRestored.esp167 a7 The Collector's Guides AIO.esp168 a8 NoRailRoadBallisticWeaveCPL.esp169 a9 settlementheight9000-aio.esp170 aa female_player_soldier_fix_robot.esp171 ab Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp172 ac FarHarborAmmo_Commonwealth.esp173 ad BTInteriors_Project_Sorting.esp174 ae Danse GTFO Power Armor.esp175 af EveryonesBestFriend.esp176 b0 SurvivalOptions.esp177 b1 Eli Armor Compendium AE VIS Patch.esp178 b2 Radrose - Valdacil Merged Patch.esp179 b3 xA_VaultSuits.esp180 b4 EndorsCustomCombatArmor_VaultSuitDLC_AE.esp181 b5 SuperMutantOverhaul.esp182 b6 ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp183 b7 Shirtless.esp184 b8 NickValentineRomance.esp185 b9 MoreVariedBodyShapesAndSkins.esp186 ba MoreVariedBetterSettlers.esp187 bb BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp188 bc BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp189 bd BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp190 be DiverseChildren.esp191 bf Snappy_DLC03.esp192 c0 DrunkenGnomes_Gnomepocolypse.esp193 c1 Nuka World Bottle Fix.esp194 c2 IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp195 c3 APC_Mobile_Base_v1.3.esp196 c4 Lootable_Redcoat_Mannequins.esp197 c5 FriendlyEasyCityDowns.esp198 c6 Orphans.esp199 c7 Orphans-DCMS.esp200 c8 Lootable_Redcoat_Mannequins_Minutemen_Replacer_USA.esp201 c9 Eli_NukaStuff.esp202 ca Altairp's Animal Farm.esp203 cb Home Plate Exterior Revamped.esp204 cc SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Defences_Brae.esp205 cd ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp206 ce BioshockInspiredPowerArmor.esp207 cf RenRadioMod.esp208 d0 Rangergearnew.esp209 d1 TrailerParkDreams.esp210 d2 JetsBathingSuits.esp211 d3 Armorsmith Pack It Up.esp212 d4 FieldScribeBackpack.esp213 d5 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Power Armor Carry Capacity.esp214 d6 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - AWKCR Power Armor.esp215 d7 WVSimSAddon.esp216 d8 PCDugSIMAddon.esp217 d9 Binoculars.esp218 da IMG_Castle_Wall_Patches.esp219 db PCDugWedges.esp220 dc MJC_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp221 dd SafeTrunkContentsReworked.esp222 de SLR.esp223 df salvagebeacons.esp224 e0 PrologueOutfitFormal.esp225 e1 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_SimTowers_JtBryant.esp226 e2 SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Foundations_JtBryant.esp227 e3 Realistic Movement Speed.esp228 e4 SimHomestead.esp229 e5 Mama Murphy Concept Art.esp230 e6 Mama Murphys Chair Redone.esp231 e7 Live Action Handy Pre-War.esp232 e8 XCE.esp233 e9 Radrose Usability Enhancements.espchem redux.esp234 ea RadRoseMergePatch.esp235 eb Radrose Usability - Workbench Perk Requirements + Armorsmith.espRadrose - Valdacil Patch - Survivalist Go-Bags_AE_AWKCR.espRadrose - Valdacil Patch - NX Pro - Farm Core.espRadrose - Valdacil Patch - SettlersRename.espRadrose - Valdacil Patch - Armorsmith Extended.espRadrose - Valdacil Patch - BTInteriors_Project.espRadrose - Valdacil Patch - Craftable Armor Size.espRadrose - Valdacil Patch - Crossbow.espRadrose - Valdacil Patch - DavesPoses.espRadrose - Valdacil Patch - DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.espRadrose - Valdacil Patch - Eli_Armour_Compendium.espRadrose - Valdacil Patch - mso_sms.espRadrose - Valdacil Patch - nvault1080.espRadrose - Valdacil Patch - SalvageBeacons.espRadrose - Valdacil Patch - SettlementKeywords.espRadrose - Valdacil Patch - SimSettlements.espRadrose - Valdacil Patch - Snappy_HouseK.espRadrose - Valdacil Patch - TrueStormsFO4.espRadrose - Valdacil Patch - visiblecompanionaffinity.esp236 ec Goggles on Forehead.esp237 ed Smoke-able Cigars.esp238 ee ValdacilsItemSorting - Smoke-able Cigars TAGS.esp239 ef SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp240 f0 CTHColoredFriendliesSneakingAndOrWeaponDrawn.esp241 f1 DOOMMerged.espRadrose - Valdacil Patch - DOOMMerged.esp242 f2 ShootingTarget.esp243 f3 BobbleGirl.esp244 f4 TheRealDiamondCity.esp245 f5 The Real Diamond City - Diamond City Expanded Patch V2.1.esp246 f6 Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp247 f7 My Homeplate Mod - With Basement.esp248 f8 CWSS Redux.esp249 f9 Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp Edited August 10, 2017 by levitator36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickmacks Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 The same problem has happened to me, with the exact same lootable objects, though similarly i have no idea when it actually started and which mod has caused it.Briefly browsing your mod load order narrowed down the list of possible causes, as i have similar mods installed, but the problem hasnt pained me enough to figure out which one is the culprit.Have you found a fix to the object rotations?(heres my current load order) GameMode=Fallout4Fallout4.esm=1DLCRobot.esm=1DLCworkshop01.esm=1DLCCoast.esm=1DLCworkshop02.esm=1DLCworkshop03.esm=1DLCNukaWorld.esm=1ConcealedArmor.esm=1ArmorKeywords.esm=1TrueStormsFO4.esm=1CROP.esm=1HUDFramework.esm=1Arbitration - Resources.esm=1Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp=1Jetpacks Unlimited Master.esp=1JU Original (Vanilla).esp=1AutoDoors.esp=1Marmo1233 - Immersive Settlers.esp=1ImmersiveVendors.esp=1OCDecorator.esp=1OCDispenser.esp=1OCDecoratorDLC.esp=1CROSS_GoreCrits.esp=1CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp=1ConcealedArmor.esp=1SpotlightFix-150.esp=1g2m_FishFarmBridges.esp=1ManufacturingExtended.esp=1DLC items to manufacturing.esp=1Thematic and Practical.esp=1Farm.esp=1WorkingTableLamps.esp=1ModdableRobotSettlers.esp=1TurretStands.esp=1FilledBrahminFeedTroughs.esp=1Settler Sandbox Overhaul.esp=1SnapBeds.esp=1IcebreakerCDO-Settlements.esp=1More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp=1AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1Repaired Roofs.esp=1SSEX.esp=1Orphans.esp=1TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp=1TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp=1TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp=1TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp=1TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp=1Companion Infinite Ammo.esp=1VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp=1EveryonesBestFriend.esp=1AtomCatsRadio.esp=1ConsoleComandsHolotape.esp=1Dogmeat's Backpack.esp=1CompanionAccuracy.esp=1dinoshelf.esp=1dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp=1BetterShackBridges.esp=1GoodneighborRadio.esp=1CrimeTown.esp=1TrainBar.esp=1NeighborWatch.esp=1Randomized DC Guard Outfits.esp=1Guards.esp=1breakheartworkshop.esp=1DiamondCityAutoClose.esp=1QuazRadioModelReplacer.esp=1DiamondCityPlus.esp=1FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp=1FunctionalDisplays.esp=1FunctionalDisplays-AID-Vanilla.esp=1FunctionalDisplays-MISC-Vanilla.esp=1FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL.esp=1GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp=1ProtoLining.esp=1CleanSettlement Greenhouse.esp=1BioshockInspiredPowerArmor.esp=1SubmersiblePowerArmorRedux.esp=1Enough About the Settlements Preston.esp=1My_Minutemen.esp=1Minuteman_CB.esp=1Crimsomrider's DLC Ammo.esp=1ShellRain.esp=1PD_VisualReload.esp=1Northland Diggers New.esp=1cartman1975_warehouse.esp=1CounterBarAnywhere.esp=1[bug fix] enable placing objects on floor - All in one (English).esp=1SilverSubmachineGun.esp=1Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp=1Locksmith.esp=1Recruitable NPC Dialogue Fixes.esp=1You Talk Too Much.esp=1CompanionsGoHome_A.esp=1CompanionStatus.esp=1Armorsmith Extended.esp=1My_Minutemen - AE - Valdacils Item Sorting Patch .esp=1Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp=1CroupSettlerRescue.esp=1QuickEnterFromStand.esp=1QuickExitToStand.esp=1Follower Revive System.esp=1CompanionTracker.esp=1More Smarter Companions Mod.esp=1Pet - Call -Feed Dogmeat.esp=1SignsOfTheTimesRoad.esp=1SurvivetheWasteland.esp=1th1nkEyebot.esp=1th1nkEyeBot-FarHarbor.esp=1th1nkEyeBot-NukaWorld.esp=1th1nkEyeBot-DLC03DLC04Addon.esp=1HoloTime.esp=1keyNuker.esp=1OVT.esp=1AutomatronDialogueFix.esp=1Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp=1BetterSettlers.esp=1BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp=1BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp=1CWSS Redux.esp=1Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons.esp=1Killable Children.esp=1Raider Children.esp=1SchoolDeskObject.esp=1DLCRobot - AdditionalVoices.esp=1PowerArmorVoice1.esp=13in1.esp=1Farming Resources.esp=1UrbanFoodExpanded.esp=1MREs.esp=1BetterJetpack.esp=1NoLimitsJetpack.esp=0PlungerGun.esp=1Ai Tweak.esp=1HomePlateWorkshopSettlement.esp=1Emergent_Design_Curie_v2.esp=1IcebreakerCDO-Piper.esp=1IS_BEST_FIGHTER_Strong_v2.esp=1Rough_in_the_Diamond_Piper_v2_1.02.esp=1Soldier_of_Misfortune_Preston_v2_1.01.esp=1The_Everyghoul_Hancock_v2.esp=1Uncaged_Cait_v2_1.04.esp=1DESTROY_ALL_Cricket_v2_1.00.esp=1VisibleWeapons.esp=1Friffy_Holstered Weapons.esp=1M9.esp=1CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevkiev Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I recall reading about this awhile ago and I think it from the Functional Displays mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickmacks Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Ahh true true! Looked up the bugs section of the Fuctional Displays mod page and several people have had the same problem because of this mod.Unfortunately the mod hasnt been updated since v0.2.9.2 from 22 October '17, so il just have to live with it till there's a fix, or uninstall it completely.The weapon racks are too good to delete for a few backward teddies.Cheers for the info :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicinePuma Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Thank you for the posts. I had the same issue and it was nice to be able to quickly find the answer. Happy gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexablackbird Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 I had been away from FO4 for a while and hadn't seen the reply with the fix - thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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