underborn Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Hello everyone! First time posting since I've usually been able to figure out mod troubles on my own for a long time, however not this time.My problem entails my Athletics skill, which continually gets reduced to 0, but not at each level in the skills. Say I have 35 Athletics. This suddenly gets reduced to 0 and becomes colored red in the skill menu. I gain a level after running for a while and now its level is 1 because it got reduced by 35. I can continue to gain levels in the skill until maybe I have 40 in Athletics which is reduced to 5 because it was originally -35 whenever it first got reduced. After a while more of doing random things it might suddenly be a big fat red 0 again and be -40 until I increase it to 41 and it will be 1. 'getav Athletics' on my character reveals that I am indeed being reduced in that skill so I could rule out a menu glitch. I've been looking over my mod list and using strong GoogleFu to see if any of the most likely mods would cause this issue, but I haven't found anything close to it.I'm playing the Steam version on the latest official patch. Screenshot of the skill menu is attached. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Load Order: 00 Oblivion.esm01 Windfall.esm02 Jog_X_Mod.esm03 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.36]04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.37]06 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]07 Fundament.esm [Version ision]08 CustomSpellIcons.esm09 Oblivifall Master File.esm [Version 1.2]0A Knights - Revelation.esm0B Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.5]0C Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0D DLCShiveringIsles.esp0E Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.9]0F All Natural.esp [Version 1.36]10 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.36]11 Skyrimized Water HD BLUE eng.esp [Version 1.8.]++ Skyrimized Waters HD BLUE - SI Addon.esp12 GOSH.esp13 Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1]14 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.36]15 WindowLightingSystem.esp16 bgShaderStandAloneEV.esp [Version 1.0EV]17 ChaseCameraMod.esp18 FOV Modifier.esp19 DialogTweaks.esp [Version 1.2.1]1A Glowing Wonders.esp1B MigStatsCheck.esp [Version 1.1]1C Camping.esp1D Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.3]1E moDem's City Life.esp1F Crowded Roads.esp [Version 2.0]20 PTRoamingNPCs.esp21 C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp22 kuerteeCleanUp.esp23 MigMiscellanea.esp [Version 1.82]24 OblivionReloaded.esp25 Quest Log Manager.esp [Version 1.3.2]26 Streamline 3.1.esp27 Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1]28 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9.3]29 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.9.3]2A Enhanced Hotkeys.esp [Version 2.3.1]2B DLCHorseArmor.esp2C DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]2D DLCOrrery.esp2E DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]2F DLCVileLair.esp30 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11]31 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp32 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]33 Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp [Version 1.0]34 DLCSpellTomes.esp++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]35 CapesandCloaks.esp36 PTArtifacts.esp37 The Adventurer's Guide.esp [Version 1.1]38 DLCThievesDen.esp39 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.15]3A DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.14]3B Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]3C Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]3D Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.37]++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]3E Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp3F OOOExtended.esp++ OOO-NoLockBash.esp40 Lock Bash Omega.esp [Version 1.5]41 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]++ ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp [Version 1.35]42 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]43 Full Harvest.esp [Version 1.0]44 C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp45 MercerIngredientsCore.esp++ MercerIngredientsOOO.esp46 ProtocolledDialogs.esp47 Oblivifall - Something's Not Right.esp [Version 1.0]48 Ivellon.esp [Version 1.8]49 Akaviri Heirlooms.esp4A Rivalry's Shield Unequipper.esp4B ArcaneUniversityExperience.esp4C Artifacts.esp++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]4D Colovian Barrow Mounds.esp4E Fighters Guild Quests.esp4F ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp50 ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts Visible From Cyrodiil.esp51 RoadLights.esp52 TheForgottenShields.esp53 thievery.esp54 Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp55 VHBloodlines 1.2.esp [Version 1.5.6]56 Vampire Hunting Bloodlines Patch.esp57 Windfall.esp58 Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp [Version 3.1]59 24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp5A DLCBattlehornCastle.esp5B DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12]5C DLCFrostcrag.esp5D DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]5E Knights.esp5F Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.8]60 Knights - Revelation.esp61 Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp [Version 1.0]62 Better Unique Items.esp63 BetterUniqueItemsDLC.esp64 The Lost Spires.esp65 AFK_Weye.esp [Version 2.32.COBL]66 Roads of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.0]67 MTCThievesGrottoV4.1.esp68 Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp [Version 1.43]69 Oblivifall - Losing My Religion KOTN.esp [Version 1.0]++ Trees Overhaul.esp6A Faregyl.esp [Version 2.0.11]6B Feldscar.esp [Version 1.0.13]6C Gottshaw Village.esp [Version 1.0.1]6D Molapi.esp [Version 1.0.1]6E Reedstand.esp [Version 1.0.4]6F Urasek.esp [Version 1.0.4]70 Vergayun.esp [Version 2.0.2]71 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 2]72 LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp73 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 2]74 xulTheHeath.esp [Version 2]75 xulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 2]76 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 2]77 LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp78 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 2]79 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 2]7A xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 2]7B xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 2]7C xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 2]7D xulAncientYews.esp [Version 2]7E xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 2]7F ROC+Ancient Redwoods.esp [Version 1.0]80 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 2]81 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 2.0.0]82 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 2]83 AFK_Weye Arrius_Creek Patch.esp84 xulPantherRiver.esp [Version 2]85 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 2]86 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 2]87 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 2]88 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 2]89 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 2]8A DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp8B xulAspenWood.esp [Version 2]8C xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 2]8D ROC+UL Skingrad Outskirts Patch.esp8E xulSnowdale.esp [Version 2]8F Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp [Version 1.0.2]90 OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp [Version 1.1]91 Snowdale - Fighters Guild Quests Patch.esp92 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 2]93 OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp [Version 1.2]94 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 2]95 Lost Spires + Silverfish River Patch.esp [Version 1.0]96 xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 2]97 OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp [Version 1.0]98 xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 2]99 Unique Landscapes.esp [Version Dummy]9A ROC+UL-II Patch.esp [Version 1.0]9B ImpeREAL Empire Unique Cities - Sutch.esp9C Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]9D Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]++ Visually Realistic Deadly Lava.esp9E Better Dungeons.esp++ Better Elixir of Exploration (for OOO or FCOM).esp9F HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2]A0 Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.espA1 Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp** Grass Overhaul.espA2 Mystic Archives Expanded v1.1.espA3 Haldar's Mods Pack.esp [Version 36.1.1]A4 ImprovedSoulgems.esp [Version 1.11]++ Larger Ogres and Trolls etc.esp++ moremerchantmoneyv1.1.espA5 PersuasionOverhaul.esp [Version 1.43]++ PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp [Version 1.2]A6 Skill Perk Descriptions.esp [Version 1.1]A7 SkillSpecialization.espA8 Soulgem Magic.esp [Version 2.0]A9 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.2.0]AA ATakesAll.esp++ UnleveledQuestRewards.esp++ UnleveledQuestRewardsDLCFilter.espAB VanillaCombatEnhanced.espAC Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp [Version 5.4.3]AD Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.espAE Cliff_Roleplayingcharacter.esp [Version 2.1]AF Basic Physical Activities.esp [Version 1.3]B0 RealisticForceHigh.espB1 EnchantmentMastery.espB2 Kyoma's Spell Renamer.esp [Version 3.0.1]B3 spelliconreplace.espB4 AgarMoreVariedSpellEffects.espB5 AgarVariedSpellSounds_SupremeMagicka.espB6 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90b]B7 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.90]++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.90]++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.90]++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.90]B8 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.90]++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.90]++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.90]B9 Pestilent Afflictions.espBA RshAlchemy.espBB RshAlchemyRecipes.espBC Lightweight Potions.esp [Version 1.1]BD MindControlCrime.espBE PTSneakPenalties.espBF Thievery_Normal.espC0 MigLockpicking.esp [Version 1.8]C1 SM Bounty.esp [Version 1.22c]++ CoblDeathFix.esp [Version 1.20]C2 Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5]C3 Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp [Version 7.3.5]++ Duke Patricks - Combat Archery Patch.espC4 InstantKillAdv.espC5 Double-tap dodge.espC6 StaggerRecoil&HitStop.espC7 Phitt's Phighting Phixes.espC8 Bundlement.esp [Version ision]C9 JCN_AV Uncap.esp [Version 1.01]CA S.P.A.M. 100+.esp [Version 2.2]CB Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0]CC OOOShiveringIsles.espCD bgAddEnVarStandAloneEV.esp [Version 1.53EV]CE Blademan's Better Birthsigns.espCF OOO-Respawn_Two_Week.esp [Version 1.33]D0 IMPChameleonSEV.espD1 Falling Leaves.esp [Version 1.0]D2 Falling Leaves - UL LushWoodlands Patch.esp [Version 1.0]** ROC Standard Road Record.esp++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.36]D3 Bashed Patch, 0.esp --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Any help is appreciated.Please say if any of these mods could be the culprit or maybe an incompatibility between something. I've tried many things, even trying to replicate the reduction but no luck. Sucks to have a Major Skill that effectively only functions as a way to level with no benefits. PS: Streamline is only for the Streamsave feature. Screenshot: http://imgur.com/a/ilRlr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underborn Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 SCRATCH THAT I found a fix and will post it here for any future modders experiencing something similar. I completely forgot the unofficial patch had a debug tool. I used that to restore broken skills.For anyone wondering it's the item you have in your inventory that looks like a key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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