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Freezing and Saving Problems


EliFoxFly

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Hello, I'm having two issues, but I'm putting them in one post in case they turn out to be related.

 

1. Game freezes for several seconds about every few minutes. It's always done that on occasion, but just in my last several hours of playing it's gotten much more frequent and the freezes are lasting longer. I'm afraid it'll become unplayable.

 

2. I can't save most of the time. Regular save, quicksave, autosave, saving via console, etc. every method just saves as a .tmp file. It's very hit or miss and I haven't been able to figure out what makes the difference on the rare occasions it saves as an actual .ess file. Sometimes deleting old saves (both from the save folder and then from the recycle bin) helps, but not always. You can imagine the difficulty of not being able to save 90% of the time.

 

I've been playing this character for many hours and none of this started happening until a day or so ago.

 

EDIT: Looking up what a normal file size should be, I'm realizing this is almost definitely save bloat. I never paid much attention to file sizes before but my current save is sitting at around 43mb. Yikes! What do I do about that??

 

Load order:

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 ApachiiHair.esm
7 7 ApachiiHairFemales.esm
8 8 ApachiiHairMales.esm
9 9 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
10 a Campfire.esm
11 b RSkyrimChildren.esm
12 c TERAArmors.esm
13 d WM Flora Fixes.esp
14 e Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
15 f AsharaMerchantNPC.esm
16 10 PlayerHomeHouse.esp
17 11 PlayerHomeHouseExt.esp
18 12 PlayerHomeShack.esp
19 13 ApachiiHairStyles.esp
20 14 JKs Skyrim.esp
21 15 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
22 16 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
23 17 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
24 18 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
25 19 Realistic Lighting.esp
26 1a Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp
27 1b HearthfireMultiKid.esp
28 1c RealShelter.esp
29 1d RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
30 1e Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
31 1f ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp
32 20 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
33 21 hearthfireextended.esp
34 22 fmstables.esp
BrookviewFarm.esp
35 23 TheChoiceIsYours.esp
36 24 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
37 25 Cloaks.esp
38 26 Tentapalooza.esp
39 27 Frostfall.esp
40 28 Tera Armor Level List.esp
41 29 goldleafponyfarm .esp
42 2a InteractiveWashBasinsCOMPLETE.esp
43 2b AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
44 2c RDO - iAFT Patch.esp
45 2d Immersive Horses.esp
46 2e Craftable Horse Barding.esp
aaStrotiHouseDemo.esp
aaStrotiMillDemo.esp
woodhall.esp
Wickersetdemo.esp
bunker.esp
47 2f LookCloser.esp
48 30 Animations.esp
49 31 AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp
50 32 Eli's Coffee Mod.esp
51 33 SkyUI.esp
52 34 TradeBarter.esp
53 35 DDD-BardsLute.esp
54 36 TheSumoJellyBeanDresses.esp
55 37 BuryTheDead.esp
56 38 CommonClothes.esp
57 39 QuieterDogs.esp
58 3a DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp
59 3b wizDynamicThings.esp
60 3c EmpyreanWarpaints.esp
61 3d FeedTheAnimals.esp
62 3e Travel Attire.esp
63 3f FNIS.esp
64 40 getSnowy.esp
65 41 RegnFlowerCrowns.esp
66 42 RegnPiercings.esp
67 43 zzMaidOutfits.esp
68 44 GDAttire.esp
69 45 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
70 46 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
71 47 vImmersiveBeds.esp
72 48 Immersive Speechcraft.esp
73 49 JaxonzDroppableStatics.esp
74 4a JaxonzRenamer.esp
75 4b ImmersiveLoversComfort.esp
76 4c KS Hairdo's.esp
77 4d lanterns.esp
78 4e LockDoorPerk.esp
79 4f MainMenu.esp
80 50 marriagedynamicoutfits.esp
81 51 MercenaryTabard.esp
82 52 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
83 53 Northgirl.esp
84 54 NPC Knockout Overhaul.esp
85 55 NosPiercedEarsEbony.esp
86 56 NosPiercedEarsGold.esp
87 57 NosPiercedEars.esp
88 58 Headtracking.esp
89 59 RaceMenu.esp
90 5a RaceMenuPlugin.esp
91 5b RSPatch.esp
92 5c dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
93 5d Rough Leather Armor.esp
94 5e RSChildren - Complete.esp
95 5f RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
96 60 SmartCast_1_0.esp
97 61 Spousetocustomhome.esp
98 62 TCIY-BCS Patch.esp
99 63 FS_UltimateAssortment.esp
100 64 UsefulDogs.esp
101 65 RGMsVanityMirror.esp
102 66 WetandCold.esp
103 67 WetandCold - Ashes.esp
104 68 XPMSE.esp
105 69 zzArmormashups.esp
106 6a CiriOutfit.esp
107 6b TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp
108 6c TDNEquipableHorns.esp
109 6d Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
ArchitectureTest.esp
SvindallEstateInt.esp
110 6e AK- Buyable Paintings and Pictures.esp
111 6f FishingInSkyrim.esp
112 70 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
113 71 Painting In Skyrim.esp
CACO_AOS_Patch.esp
CACO_CoinReplacer_Patch.esp
CACO_ETaC_Patch.esp
CACO_SkyrimImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp
CACO_SkyrimImmersiveCreatures+DLC2_Patch.esp
CACO_Wyrmstooth_Patch.esp
CACO_GrayCowl_Patch.esp
CACO_InvisibilityEyesFix_Patch.esp
CACO_MightyMagick_Patch.esp
CACO_RND_DestBottles_Patch.esp
114 72 CACO_RND_Patch.esp
115 73 CACO_UniqueBooze_Patch.esp
CACO_USKP_Patch.esp
116 74 CACO_USLEEP_Patch.esp
117 75 One With Nature - DG+DB SkyTEST.esp
118 76 _tck_SpellCrafting.esp
119 77 itsatrap!.esp
120 78 garm_white.esp
121 79 hubertfollower.esp
122 7a BFFAnimalCompanions.esp
123 7b My Home Is Your Home.esp
124 7c Imaginator BETA.esp
125 7d GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp
126 7e RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
127 7f MeekoHuskyEssential.esp
128 80 bm_SimpleAction.esp
129 81 JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
130 82 WestWindMisfit.esp
131 83 Immersive Horses - Hearthfire Patch.esp
132 84 RDO - Immersive Horses Patch.esp
133 85 Better Vampires.esp
134 86 BloodthirstVampireFeeding.esp
135 87 Cute Adoptable.esp
136 88 Dead Body Collision.esp
137 89 Dual Sheath Redux.esp
138 8a LycHairstyler.esp
139 8b ChateauVinSang.esp
140 8c MoreVampireEyes.esp
141 8d AsharaRomanticOutfit.esp
142 8e Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
143 8f Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
(I'm sorry I don't know how to put that inside a spoiler thing. I'll edit it if someone tells me how.)
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Alright so I looked up what to do about save bloat, some people said waiting 31 days in an interior. I was right by Redwater Den, so I went in there, sped up time super fast and just stood there as 31 days flew by in a couple minutes.

 

IMMEDIATE improvement--no more freezing and I can save reliably again! My first save after waiting jumped up to over 50mb, but then my next save was back down to what it was before, around 43mb. I still would like to know how to get it lower because I don't want bloat causing issues in the future.

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I installed Crash Fixes and SKSE Plugin Preloader and set "UseOSAllocators=1" in CrashFixPlugin.ini. It seems to have helped a little bit; the freezing isn't *as bad* and it took longer to get a ctd. I'm going to look up how to create a bashed patch since I have so many mods and see if that helps. Again, any help would be very appreciated.

 

EDIT: havent made the bashed patch yet but I disabled papyrus logging in the ini (i had it on to see if i could pinpoint what's causing ctds but it wasn't helping anyway) and now I've been playing for a couple hours with no ctds and hardly any freezing! We'll see how long this lasts.

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