New update, new problems (CTD)

[andiders]

So I got the new update (1.4.27?) and since then I haven't been able too play for more then 2-3 minutes.

 

Before the update this never happened.

First I had too update SKSE. It was indeed compatible with the update. I had too remove Skyboost.

And now, I play for 2-3 minutes. CTD.

If I enter a new area, it crashes instantly. As the loadingscreen pops up, it crashes.

 

I've never had problems with incompatible mods or stuff like that.

This happened when I updated Skyrim, updated SKSE and removed Skyboost.

Even without SKSE and with all mods (other then retextures) this still happens.

 

Anyone has any solutions?

Any idea?

[avare]

I am having the same problem,for some reason i can't even start a new game anymore,my skyrim goes grey screen and i need to alt tab it,i thought some new mods were causing this,but even without them it continued.

[meatwad2021]

I am having the same problem,for some reason i can't even start a new game anymore,my skyrim goes grey screen and i need to alt tab it,i thought some new mods were causing this,but even without them it continued.

 

This one's gonna be fun...

http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1353517-important-load-order-and-you/

[avare]

heh,took out all of .esm and it started to work,thx solved my problem.

[AlexanderWilliamWard]

I'll post this here because I think my problem is similar enough, and I don't really want to spam up the forum with near identical problems.

 

I used to play Skyrim (fairly) perfectly on my laptop when it was first released, the only real downside being terrible graphics performance (usually averaging about 15fps). So after enduring 60 hours or so of game play in November I decided to put Skyrim aside until I could build a proper gaming PC. Well 3 weeks ago now I did just that, and I'll use this opportunity to lay down my system specs:

 

Asrock P67 Pro3 SE Motherboard

Intel i5 2500K 3.30GHz CPU

Radeon 6950 HD 2GB GPU

2x4GB 1600MHz DDR3 RAM

650W Single Rail PSU

 

So all in all, a computer that should have no problem running Skyrim. Which it mostly doesn't - runs on ultra settings at a smooth 60fps. The only problem is something I think a lot of people have experienced but there doesn't seem to be much answer to - random Crashes To Desktop (CTD).

 

I've done a fair bit of research into the issue, but one of the major obstacles I've been encountering is that most reports on this problem and it's potential solutions tend to be from around November - before updates for the game started to be released. As I'm running version 1.27.0.4, these old threads are seldom helpful. Still I've read as much as I can and tried a few of the fixes I could find:

 

- Re-installing Skyrim

- Verifying integrity of steam cache (interestingly this sometimes fails - not after every crash nor with any notable regularity. But even after steam has re-downloaded the files it deems necessary the problems simply continue).

- Re-installing Steam

- Re-installing/Removing Mods (I'm only using one at the moment anyway).

- Playing on reduced graphics settings (there is no difference in either performance nor crash rate at minimum, maximum or anything else in between).

- Re-installing graphics drivers (I'm running ATI catalyst drivers version 12.1 - the latest version).

- Setting the default system sound quality to some value or other (not really sure how this was supposed to help.)

 

I also read a little bit about the LAA fix/mod but apparently that capability has been patched into the .exe now anyway. At any rate none of these fixes has any impact what so ever. I am also certain that my system is not overheating as I have plenty of cooling and using GPUZ has confirmed that my GPU temperature never rises above 70 degrees Celsius during gameplay, idling at around 40 during normal operation.

 

At this point it is probably worth recording what I have noticed about the crashes just through my observations. On my system the crashes tend to start sooner if my computer has already been on for an hour or more (I never usually run it for more than 6 hours continuously). If I launch into Skyrim having just started my computer up it might take 2 hours for the crashes to begin whereas when I've been performing other tasks with my computer beforehand the crashes can start in as little as 40 minutes of gameplay. Once the crashes have started however, the cycle is always the same. From the initial crash (if I choose to continue to play and not just give up and shut down for the day) the crashes increase in frequency until I get about 30 seconds of gameplay between crashes which is when I find something else to do (like writing this post). The only thing which can postpone the crashes is a system restart, or to totally reset the cycle I have to turn the computer off and leave it for an hour or so. Leaving the computer on and using it to perform other functions does postpone the crashes, but not very much.

 

 

It may or may not be worth noting that I have been having some other games have issues with my graphics drivers, although I consider this problem to be fundamentally separate to the problem I am having with Skyrim, due to the starkly different nature of the crashes. The games which experience this other crash (Minecraft and Metro:2033) will hang for a few seconds, which is followed by my screen resetting through black, and returning to a white screen with the game sounds continuing to play. At this point I have to open the task manager to return to the desktop (or else sit staring at a blank white screen for all eternity) at which point the game becomes unresponsive and has to be terminated. It is during the transition to the desktop that a taskbar bubble notifies me the "The AMD Catalyst driver has stopped responding and recovered". Now I believe this shows that this issue is completely separate to the issue I am having with Skyrim, although I thought it was better to mention it on the off chance that it is not.

 

 

I know it's a hefty wall of text, but I don't think this is a problem to be solved easily (although I would far rather be proved an idiot if it means I can play Skryim uninterrupted again).

[andiders]

I hope Skyboost will be updating soon.

I hope that fixes the problem.

 

Before patch 1.4.27

I ran SKSE, Skyboost and all my mods excellently. Without Skyboost I got som FPS-drops here and there.

Then the update comes. And SKSE has too be updated, and Skyboost removed. Now comes the problems.

Everything works, except at all doors/new areas, the risk is extreme that I get CTD.

 

Also, my fans in the PC runs faster then before.

Maybe, in my case, the new bottleneck parts in Skyrim, lowers the performance and makes it crash? I don't know.

 

But I sure hope this stops soon.

 

I've started without SKSE and ENB.

Only textures. Same problem.

I reinstalled the game. Same problem.

Could it be such a simple problem that my C don't wanna run it without Skyboost? It is heavily graphical enhanced. Even though my PC should have no problem whatsoever...

[AlexanderWilliamWard]

For what it's worth, I have actually read of lots of cases where people using the HD texture pack have had problems with the game crashing to desktop. I assume that's what you mean when you talk about re-textures? Either way it's probably worth disabling the textures completely and trying a vanilla run of Skyrim.

 

Also if some of your PC fans are running faster you should probably try to find out which ones - might be an indication of a driver issue, might be overheating. Try downloading GPU-Z and RealTemp from techpowerup.com. They're free programs that can monitor your CPU and GPU loads and temperatures and record it to file, and GPU-Z can even record the speed of your GPU fan. Just run both of these and have them record their output to files whilst you play through Skyrim until it crashes. Then have a look at the log files and see either of the processors is either overheating or becoming overloaded.

[andiders]

For what it's worth, I have actually read of lots of cases where people using the HD texture pack have had problems with the game crashing to desktop. I assume that's what you mean when you talk about re-textures? Either way it's probably worth disabling the textures completely and trying a vanilla run of Skyrim.

 

Also if some of your PC fans are running faster you should probably try to find out which ones - might be an indication of a driver issue, might be overheating. Try downloading GPU-Z and RealTemp from techpowerup.com. They're free programs that can monitor your CPU and GPU loads and temperatures and record it to file, and GPU-Z can even record the speed of your GPU fan. Just run both of these and have them record their output to files whilst you play through Skyrim until it crashes. Then have a look at the log files and see either of the processors is either overheating or becoming overloaded.

I do have the DLC but most are third party retextures.

[Drizzitt]

I got problems too after 1.4.27... It feels like the 4gb support has been taken away. I get pink trees, and I can't load my latest save that was in middle of a forest (lots of hd quality rendering), it crashes instantly after loading screen.

 

If I load some other save, it's okey until I go to some forest for example... Crash.

 

 

Skyrim worked a day or two ago, no new mods installed after that, only the new update. So once again... I love you bethesda, and your updates.

 

Oh, and I don't have that bethesda's texture dlc, only lots of third parties', that used to work...

Edited March 2, 2012 by Drizzitt

[gohanf22]

Getting CTD's now as well after update. So was having good fun with the procedure going, now this load order crap is back and now I'm back to where I was with Oblivion. TOTALLY lost. I have no idea how now to fix my CTD problems cause I never understood the Load Order thing. Even when I was playing Oblivion. I wish they didnt do this load order thing cause all was working fine til they put it in.