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dufus554

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I have been messing with the load order of my mods in wrye bash for a while now and any suggestions would be appreciated. Every time I try to start a new game or load an old one the game crashes to the desktop.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Here is my current load order:

00 Oblivion.esm

01 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.28]

02 TamrielTravellers.esm

03 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33]

04 Inventory Tracker.esm

== BETHESDA=================

05 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

06 DLCFrostcrag.esp

07 DLCHorseArmor.esp

08 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

09 DLCOrrery.esp

0A DLCShiveringIsles.esp

0B DLCSpellTomes.esp

0C DLCThievesDen.esp

0D DLCVileLair.esp

0E Knights.esp

== PATCH====================

0F DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]

10 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]

11 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.2]

12 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.2]

13 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.2]

14 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]

15 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]

16 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.2]

17 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.2]

18 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]

19 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 2.2.0]

1A Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.2.0]

== COBL=====================

1B Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.25+]

1C Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.23]

1D Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.25]

1E OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.28]

== COSMETIC=================

1F Arthur_Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

20 Beautiful People.esp

21 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp

22 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

23 Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

24 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

25 TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp

26 TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp

== WEAPON===================

27 PureSteelBlade.esp

== CLOTHING=================

28 Diverse Imperial Armor v1.1.esp

29 JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp

2A PC Sleep Disrober.esp [Version -03]

== NPC======================

2B RenGuardOverhaul.esp

2C RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp

2D Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.0]

2E TamrielTravellers4000.esp

----> DELINQUENT MASTER: Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

2F TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp

== PLACE====================

30 FrostcragAlchemySorter.esp

31 KvatchAftermath.esp

32 Landmarks, w Wells.esp [Version 1.10]

33 TheElderCouncil.esp

34 TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp

35 WoodlandVillage, Cobl.esp [Version 1.3]

== QUEST====================

36 JQ-AssassinQuest.esp

37 Origin of the Mages Guild.esp [Version 5.1]

== MAGIC====================

38 Power Exhaustion.esp [Version -01]

39 TML_MagicUnlocked.esp

3A Wrye Shivering Death.esp [Version 05]

== OVERHAUL=================

3B Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33]

3C Rational Names, 2.esp [Version 2-04]

== OVERHAUL+1===============

3D Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

3E Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]

3F Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]

40 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]

41 OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp [Version 1.33]

42 OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp [Version 1.33]

43 OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp [Version 1.33]

44 OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp [Version 1.33]

45 OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]

== TWEAK====================

46 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]

47 Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 2.1.0]

48 Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0]

49 Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0]

4A TML_TrainingUncap.esp

== MISC.====================

4B All normal clothes buyable.esp

4C DD_JailShackles.esp

4D Knight Class Redone.esp

4E P1DkeyChain.esp

4F Staffcraft.esp

== LAST+1===================

50 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

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My suggestions:

 

DLC zone after the UOP (you don't have one just after the esm zone)

Overhaul zone after the COBL zone

Knights loaded last in the quest zone

Put the tweak zone before the DLC one and put here the environment related plugins, moving the QAL plugins near the end in a 'Overrides' zone.

Move the Misc zone before the Quests one.

Download and use FCOM helper using the included .txt as guideline for your load order.

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Ok firstly try dyfed_99's suggestions. I don't run OOO, COBL, Knights, Frostcrag or Horse Armor and only the main UOP myself so not familiar with their load quirks really.

 

If you still get no joy and you mean its crashing back to desktop on launch, just after the Bethesda banner this can often happen when you have either too many mods running or the larger, more gameplay overhauling mods seem to be incompatible. But you should be fine numbers-wise at under 100. 255 is your limit. Anything more and the game feints.

 

However, as you're well below that mark try disabling all non official plug-ins or as far back as you need to stop the CTDs and then try adding your mods back in with the large ones first (COBL then OOO and so on) and then the rest in order of how much you feel you need them and see what happens. They may all go back again without any more crashes. But from experience when this kind of thing starts I've twice had to re-install Oblivion. Which is not as much of a headache as you are led to think sometimes. Just make sure you have your mod data and saved games backed up and brew some coffee. As far as load order is concerned it could be tweaked but nothing jumps out as game-breakingly out of place to me.

But then you never know.

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