dufus554 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 I have been messing with the load order of my mods in wrye bash for a while now and any suggestions would be appreciated. Every time I try to start a new game or load an old one the game crashes to the desktop. Thanks in advance Here is my current load order:00 Oblivion.esm01 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.28]02 TamrielTravellers.esm03 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33]04 Inventory Tracker.esm== BETHESDA=================05 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp06 DLCFrostcrag.esp07 DLCHorseArmor.esp08 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp09 DLCOrrery.esp0A DLCShiveringIsles.esp0B DLCSpellTomes.esp0C DLCThievesDen.esp0D DLCVileLair.esp0E Knights.esp== PATCH====================0F DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]10 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]11 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.2]12 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.2]13 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.2]14 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]15 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]16 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.2]17 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.2]18 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]19 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 2.2.0]1A Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.2.0]== COBL=====================1B Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.25+]1C Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.23]1D Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.25]1E OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.28]== COSMETIC=================1F Arthur_Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp20 Beautiful People.esp21 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp22 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp23 Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp24 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp25 TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp26 TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp== WEAPON===================27 PureSteelBlade.esp== CLOTHING=================28 Diverse Imperial Armor v1.1.esp29 JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp2A PC Sleep Disrober.esp [Version -03]== NPC======================2B RenGuardOverhaul.esp2C RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp2D Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.0]2E TamrielTravellers4000.esp----> DELINQUENT MASTER: Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp2F TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp== PLACE====================30 FrostcragAlchemySorter.esp31 KvatchAftermath.esp32 Landmarks, w Wells.esp [Version 1.10]33 TheElderCouncil.esp34 TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp35 WoodlandVillage, Cobl.esp [Version 1.3]== QUEST====================36 JQ-AssassinQuest.esp37 Origin of the Mages Guild.esp [Version 5.1]== MAGIC====================38 Power Exhaustion.esp [Version -01]39 TML_MagicUnlocked.esp3A Wrye Shivering Death.esp [Version 05]== OVERHAUL=================3B Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33]3C Rational Names, 2.esp [Version 2-04]== OVERHAUL+1===============3D Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]3E Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]3F Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]40 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]41 OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp [Version 1.33]42 OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp [Version 1.33]43 OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp [Version 1.33]44 OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp [Version 1.33]45 OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]== TWEAK====================46 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]47 Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 2.1.0]48 Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0]49 Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0]4A TML_TrainingUncap.esp== MISC.====================4B All normal clothes buyable.esp4C DD_JailShackles.esp4D Knight Class Redone.esp4E P1DkeyChain.esp4F Staffcraft.esp== LAST+1===================50 Bashed Patch, 0.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyfed99 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 My suggestions: DLC zone after the UOP (you don't have one just after the esm zone)Overhaul zone after the COBL zoneKnights loaded last in the quest zonePut the tweak zone before the DLC one and put here the environment related plugins, moving the QAL plugins near the end in a 'Overrides' zone.Move the Misc zone before the Quests one.Download and use FCOM helper using the included .txt as guideline for your load order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glue Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Ok firstly try dyfed_99's suggestions. I don't run OOO, COBL, Knights, Frostcrag or Horse Armor and only the main UOP myself so not familiar with their load quirks really. If you still get no joy and you mean its crashing back to desktop on launch, just after the Bethesda banner this can often happen when you have either too many mods running or the larger, more gameplay overhauling mods seem to be incompatible. But you should be fine numbers-wise at under 100. 255 is your limit. Anything more and the game feints. However, as you're well below that mark try disabling all non official plug-ins or as far back as you need to stop the CTDs and then try adding your mods back in with the large ones first (COBL then OOO and so on) and then the rest in order of how much you feel you need them and see what happens. They may all go back again without any more crashes. But from experience when this kind of thing starts I've twice had to re-install Oblivion. Which is not as much of a headache as you are led to think sometimes. Just make sure you have your mod data and saved games backed up and brew some coffee. As far as load order is concerned it could be tweaked but nothing jumps out as game-breakingly out of place to me. But then you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilmaboy Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Hi.I'm No expert but read this link.It might Help. http://devnull.devakm.googlepages.com/loadorder :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufus554 Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 Thanks for all of the suggestions I followed dyfed_99's advise and it solved the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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