Ragnarok101 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Okay, so for some reason whenever I try to play the game, I get a black screen with a black window in the upper left corner. Often, it will not respond to attempts to remove it, necessitating a restart of my computer. Deactivated all mods and it ran fine, going back through my mods list and it still persists...Closest thing I've seen discussed is if I had an ENB (apparently that's a Win10 problem) but I have not downloaded any. This is my load order, which I've mostly done by using the auto-plugin sort on NMM. FalloutNV.esm=1DeadMoney.esm=1HonestHearts.esm=1OldWorldBlues.esm=1LonesomeRoad.esm=1GunRunnersArsenal.esm=1ClassicPack.esm=1MercenaryPack.esm=1TribalPack.esm=1CaravanPack.esm=1YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm=1CompanionInfAmmo.esm=1SomeguySeries.esm=1WARZONES - Misanthropy Pure.esm=1JIP Selective-Fire.esm=1FCOMaster.esm=1Factions Reloaded - Merge.esm=1NPC Project.esm=1More Traits.esm=1More Perks.esm=1SpeedyResources.esm=1More Perks for Companions.esm=1Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esm=1YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp=1Light Step ED-E.esp=1NPC Project - Freeside.esp=1SPECIAL points.esp=1Merchants Sell Displayed Items.esp=1FCO - NPC Changes.esp=1Primm Reborn.esp=1BrotherhoodHeliosOne.esp=1Novac Reborn.esp=1TfaT2.esp=1Goodsprings Reborn.esp=1Bitter Springs Revisited.esp=1xatmosSkillPerks.esp=1Hidden Weapons Pack.esp=1casinofix.esp=1CompanionInfAmmoCheat.esp=1Real Recoil.esp=1CASM with MCM.esp=1WEarmor.esp=1CasinoBankMoney.esp=1The Mod Configuration Menu.esp=1The Law Won.esp=1MannequinNV.esp=1Azrael's Lore Starter.esp=1TrooperOverhaul-Dragbody.esp=1GRA - The Right to Bear Arms.esp=1More Perks Update.esp=1NorthRoad.esp=1Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Store.esp=1Russell.esp=1NPC Project - 188 Trading Post.esp=1FNV Realistic Wasteland Lighting - All DLC.esp=1NPC Project - Aerotech Office Park.esp=1Badmothaf*#@a.esp=1UnlimitedTraits.esp=1tubLevelSwitch.esp=1More Perks for Companions Update.esp=1noautoaim.esp=1Awesome Crippling Effects v1.7.esp=1AwesomeCripplingEffectsJIPLN1.1.esp=1Better Burned Man.esp=1Vault_34_better_reactor.esp=1Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Leveled.Lists.esp=1Better Pickup Prompt.esp=1NCR Rearmed.esp=1ADAM Complete.esp=1ADAM - MERGE.esp=1Nipton Fires Extinguished.esp=1Yao Guai Friend.esp=1More enemy at final battle extreme.esp=1NewVegasBounties.esp=1NewVegasBountiesII.esp=1Simple Reputation and Disguises.esp=1NCRTrooperOverhaul.esp=1Free the Slaves.esp=1ExtendedDialogueVulpes.esp=1CompanionInfAmmoOptional.esp=1Crashed Vertibird Interior.esp=1CasinoHeistPack.esp=1More Traits Update.esp=1NVBabyDeathclawCommander.esp=1UnlimitedCompanions.esp=1CAGE 1.9.3.2.esp=1Crossbow.esp=1MUd-CR48 Merchant.esp=1Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Cheat.Cabinet.esp=1merge.esp=1FCO - OHSB NPC Edits.esp=0FCO - Russell.esp=1enclaveradio.esp=1Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Honest.Hearts.Grunt.Patch.esp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubiousintent Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 "Black screen with a black window in the upper left corner"? How can you tell? Anyway, when does this first occur? On the initial loading screen before you get to the Main Menu, after you pick a save game to load, or after the game loads and you get the HUD? Did you happen to install the game to the default location (i.e. "C:\Progran Files" tree)? If so, please read the "Installing Games on Windows Vista+" article in my signature, and move it. Many strange problems arise from that location. -Dubious- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok101 Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 Because the smaller screen has a grey border. On startup- click play, immediately comes up. I did. *grumbles about Windows and default Steam annoyances*Will go through the article, rework my install paths to fit it, and let you know how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok101 Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) Well, it solved nothing. Joy. Also, attempting to follow the instructions on the wiki page 'Steam and mods' doesn't work. There is no option to not have updates for FNV.I've heard it might be the result of NVIDIA drivers, but mine are new Specs:Windows 10Inspiron 15 7000 GaminGeforce GTX 1050 Ti Load order: GameMode=FalloutNVFalloutNV.esm=1DeadMoney.esm=1HonestHearts.esm=1OldWorldBlues.esm=1LonesomeRoad.esm=1GunRunnersArsenal.esm=1ClassicPack.esm=1MercenaryPack.esm=1TribalPack.esm=1CaravanPack.esm=1YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm=1CompanionInfAmmo.esm=1SomeguySeries.esm=1WARZONES - Misanthropy Pure.esm=1JIP Selective-Fire.esm=1FCOMaster.esm=1Factions Reloaded - Merge.esm=1NPC Project.esm=1KhanInitiation.esp=1More Traits.esm=1More Perks.esm=1SpeedyResources.esm=1More Perks for Companions.esm=1Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esm=1YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp=1Light Step ED-E.esp=1NPC Project - Freeside.esp=1SPECIAL points.esp=1Merchants Sell Displayed Items.esp=1FCO - NPC Changes.esp=1Primm Reborn.esp=1BrotherhoodHeliosOne.esp=1Novac Reborn.esp=1EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp=1WeaponModsExpanded.esp=1TfaT2.esp=1Goodsprings Reborn.esp=1Bitter Springs Revisited.esp=1xatmosSkillPerks.esp=1Hidden Weapons Pack.esp=1casinofix.esp=1CompanionInfAmmoCheat.esp=1Real Recoil.esp=1CASM with MCM.esp=1WEarmor.esp=1CasinoBankMoney.esp=1The Mod Configuration Menu.esp=1The Law Won.esp=1MannequinNV.esp=1Azrael's Lore Starter.esp=1TrooperOverhaul-Dragbody.esp=1WMX-DLCMerged.esp=1GRA - The Right to Bear Arms.esp=1More Perks Update.esp=1NorthRoad.esp=1Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Store.esp=1Russell.esp=1NPC Project - 188 Trading Post.esp=1FNV Realistic Wasteland Lighting - All DLC.esp=1NPC Project - Aerotech Office Park.esp=1Badmothaf*#@a.esp=1UnlimitedTraits.esp=1tubLevelSwitch.esp=1More Perks for Companions Update.esp=1noautoaim.esp=1Awesome Crippling Effects v1.7.esp=1AwesomeCripplingEffectsJIPLN1.1.esp=1Better Burned Man.esp=1Vault_34_better_reactor.esp=1Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Leveled.Lists.esp=1Better Pickup Prompt.esp=1NCR Rearmed.esp=1ADAM Complete.esp=1ADAM - MERGE.esp=1Nipton Fires Extinguished.esp=1Yao Guai Friend.esp=1More enemy at final battle extreme.esp=1NewVegasBounties.esp=1NewVegasBountiesII.esp=1Simple Reputation and Disguises.esp=1NCRTrooperOverhaul.esp=1Free the Slaves.esp=1ExtendedDialogueVulpes.esp=1WMX-EVE-AllDLCMerged.esp=1CompanionInfAmmoOptional.esp=1Crashed Vertibird Interior.esp=1CasinoHeistPack.esp=1More Traits Update.esp=1NVBabyDeathclawCommander.esp=1UnlimitedCompanions.esp=1CAGE 1.9.3.2.esp=1Crossbow.esp=1MUd-CR48 Merchant.esp=1Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Cheat.Cabinet.esp=1enclaveradio.esp=1Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Honest.Hearts.Grunt.Patch.esp=1FCO - OHSB NPC Edits.esp=1FCO - Russell.esp=1WMX-POPMerged.esp=1ShilohDS-Color Maps and Icons.esp=1merge.esp=1DLC Weapon Integration - WMX.esp=1 EDIT: Currently, it is taking forever to load, then pops up in the same state as previously explained. Going to try some of the simpler fixes (deleting fallout_default, running in windowed mode, etc.) and see if that fixes it. Pretty sure it's a graphics problem. EDIT EDIT: Nope.According to the wiki, it's likely it's a master problem, even though both FNVEdit and NMM load the plugins just fine. Will look over again, see if manual searching turns something up. MOAR EDIT: Okay, not a master problem. Everything checks out. Now the launcher is crashing upon hitting play... Edited August 30, 2017 by Ragnarok101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubiousintent Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I have recently (the last two days) started to encounter a number of different reports from people who have had to verify files or otherwise reinstall their game (various Steam games, not just FNV) and encountered problems trying to get it to simply launch after a Steam Client update. I have a suspicion that Steam broke something on their end. You might want to check with Steam Support before assuming your system is at fault. -Dubious- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok101 Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) I have recently (the last two days) started to encounter a number of different reports from people who have had to verify files or otherwise reinstall their game (various Steam games, not just FNV) and encountered problems trying to get it to simply launch after a Steam Client update. I have a suspicion that Steam broke something on their end. You might want to check with Steam Support before assuming your system is at fault. -Dubious-It's Steam. I think what happened is that one of their updates had a server problem. Short version, I reinstalled and ran troubleshooting on my wifi, and the game launches fine now. What annoys me the most about this is I lost my long-running M2TW campaign. Edited August 31, 2017 by Ragnarok101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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