SilentAegis Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) Fix: Revert to the save where you first encountered the issue or before it. Remember to save often, before and/or after every fight, before you zone, ( meaning before a loading screen appears ), etc. Hello! I haven't been on here for a long while due to never having problems with the game for quite a long time, but I'm back with a new issue. As the title suggests, I'm having difficulty keeping my game stable. Freezes, crashes, very deep drops in framerate, all that. I have no idea what's causing the issue, so perhaps someone on here can help me. I'll list everything I use: LOOT ModOrganizer Tes5Edit WyreBash FNIS BodySlide SKSE Antique Dragon ENB Performance Version Enbseries Version 0.315 Everything I have tried: Reading the Stability Performance Optimization ENB Configuration. Watching Gopher's Skyrim Memory Patch video as well as installing it. Installing SSME. Reinstalling Crash Fixes. Installing the Skyrim Project Optimization mod. Cleaning the save using the Save Cleaner by Hadoram. Reinstalling SKSE. Cleaning the masterfiles using Tes5Edit. The save file is currently 21,862KB large. The string count ( if anybody is familiar with that ) is about 56,000. It used to be over 57,000. How The Issue Appeared: I use the Take Notes mod, a fun way to allow myself to be creative by writing a story within Skyrim. To write the story, all I have to do is play. I went into a modded house I have, sat my character down, and wrote in everything that happened. After finally finishing in about a week or so, I began to play the game again which is where I noticed these issues. I tried to fix it multiple times and twice, I thought I did. About 2 days ago, I put my character outside and left the game running for about three hours. I came back and the game was still running! So I thought it was fixed and continued playing. I quit without saving and reloaded the game. But it kept coming back. I've written in Take Notes before and continued playing before without any issues. So I must've done something to my game during the last time I wrote, but unfortunately, I can't remember what. I'm willing to try anything EXCEPT starting the playthrough all over again and going back that far in my saves. I've restarted a playthrough twice already, I won't do it a third time. And in my first playthrough, I was a very irresponsible modder and I still kept it running for 3 years. Plus, the last time I did that, the second playthrough had the same issues. I restarted for nothing. Sorry for the big post, but I thought I should be as specific as I can as well as list everything I've tried and use, that way people can just jump right in as opposed to having to ask specifics. Any advice is appreciated, anything from a new program I should try out to maybe something in SSME, Crash Fixes, or SKSE themselves? I don't know. But I'm running out of ideas here. If I have to read a huge post someone links, I WILL read it. Thanks for reading. Who knows, perhaps this post will help others if we can get this fixed. Edited September 3, 2017 by SilentAegis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapteyn Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) If you're any good with using TES5Edit then have a go at manually removing any unnecessary conflicts and also moving the load order around to reduce them. Some things may not be needed, so the less red stuff you have in the editor the better. I have a lot of bandits spawning all over the place and I think it was causing me grief due to, I dunno really but I suspected some of it was waypointing and at other times them being spawned on impassable land, but after removing conflicts in the editor it seemed to get better. Another thing which I think helped me immensely was compressing the texture files (link) because it reduces memory usage. I also have better luck on Windows 7 than on my XP install, I guess some of it is to do with graphics drivers and/or DirectX. If however you started to get random crashes after a long time without adding or removing mods then I'd be one to suspect a hardware problem. Actually, now that I think about it as I was unsure what really nailed it for me... it might have been related to shadows so try this mod. Edited August 31, 2017 by Kapteyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fkemman11 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Doesn't Crashfixes write a log each time you crash? You can decipher those log entries to see what it is telling you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentAegis Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) Agh. The first time, I played for about 40 minutes, but there wasn't a crash, I had to get off. The second time, it froze about 30 minutes in. I was trying to enter a cave. If you're any good with using TES5Edit then have a go at manually removing any unnecessary conflicts and also moving the load order around to reduce them. Some things may not be needed, so the less red stuff you have in the editor the better. I have a lot of bandits spawning all over the place and I think it was causing me grief due to, I dunno really but I suspected some of it was waypointing and at other times them being spawned on impassable land, but after removing conflicts in the editor it seemed to get better. Another thing which I think helped me immensely was compressing the texture files (link) because it reduces memory usage. I also have better luck on Windows 7 than on my XP install, I guess some of it is to do with graphics drivers and/or DirectX. If however you started to get random crashes after a long time without adding or removing mods then I'd be one to suspect a hardware problem.Actually, now that I think about it as I was unsure what really nailed it for me... it might have been related to shadows so try this mod. Nope, afraid I'm not that great at all using Tes5Edit and I actually have already tried compressing the textures, but that didn't work. Getting rid of Shadows don't help either. Doesn't Crashfixes write a log each time you crash? You can decipher those log entries to see what it is telling you. I didn't know that, actually. I turned it on, but I read that only the author can decipher those logs. Also, it doesn't seem to write logs for freezes, just crashes. I'm going to try disabling UseOSAllocators. I never needed that on and it seems I can't use SSME with it on. Edited August 31, 2017 by SilentAegis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazuya482 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 System specs? Particularly Vram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentAegis Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) Dammit. I crashed again about 34 minutes into playing. I'm at a loss. I don't know what else could be freezing me. I have the SKSE Memory Patch activated, I have Crash Fixes installed, I've optimized my textures, I've cleaned the masterfiles, I've "cleaned" the save, I've ensured my save game is stable, I have Bug Fixes installed, I have the Unofficial Patches, I have a Bashed Patch. What else could I be possibly missing? Edited August 31, 2017 by SilentAegis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentAegis Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 System specs? Particularly Vram. I'll look now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentAegis Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 System Specs: Processor: Intel® Core i7-6700k CPU @ 4.00GHz Windows 10 64bit RAM: 16.0GB Total Virtual Memory: 18.3GB Card: Nividia GTX 1080 Let me know if I missed anything. Sort of new at this. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentAegis Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) I used the Papyrus System GUI which detected about 20 Unattached Instances and 6 Active Threads. It doesn't sound like a lot to me, but perhaps it is or perhaps those things are that detrimental. I'm going to follow some GamerPoets videos and start reinstalling everything. SKSE, the Memory Patch, Crash Fixes, all of it. Also, would Skyrim.esm be refreshed if I reinstalled the game? I think I accidentally cleaned that ESM. I remember cleaning the masterfiles and I cannot recall if I cleaned that file or if I didn't. I also recently installed a plugin to allow me to load the game without having to go to new game first. Maybe that's making me freeze for some reason. Edited August 31, 2017 by SilentAegis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fkemman11 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 In my experience you tear it down until it works again and then you build it back up. Try to remember when it was working ok. and what you did or installed after that to start giving you troubles. With Sky it could be one of about 10000 things that go wrong. Remember that your load order and merged and bashed patches help to solve many problems when implemented correctly. Trust loot to an extent and then check in x-edit to see where you have more conflicts and adjust your load order. ;Remember to change something and then test on a new char. then change some more things and test again. and test some more. This is the reason it is a bad idea to change anything during a play-through. Don't worry cause I am guilty of doing the same thing. Constantly pushing to see if I can still squeeze in one or two more mods. It is an addiction. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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