Problems with weapons workbench CTDing

[Khaorix]

Hello to you all,

 

I'm not sure whether this is the right place to post this sort of post. If this post is in the wrong place, then tell me, and I'll repost it where appropriate.

 

My problem: Whenever I go to a weapons workbench, the animation starts playing and the menu shows. If I attempt to select any weapon but the first one, I CTD immidiately.

 

I'm unsure as to whether this is a question of time or item selected. I'm also unsure, now that I think of it, if any other workbench is affected. Further testing is afoot, I'll edit.

 

After testing, armor workbench CTD even faster. It also seems that time does not trigger the CTD on the weapons workbench, but rather doing anything else than nothing.

 

I've tried updating the mods in my loading list, but it made no difference.

 

Anyway, if anyone has any idea what happens, I would be very thankful.

 

Here is my load order (Fo4 is Steam version, all DLC, 1.10.2)

 

GameMode=Fallout4

Fallout4.esm=1

DLCRobot.esm=1

DLCworkshop01.esm=1

DLCCoast.esm=1

DLCworkshop02.esm=1

DLCworkshop03.esm=1

DLCNukaWorld.esm=1

Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp=1

HUDFramework.esm=1

SimSettlements.esm=1

Arbitration - Resources.esm=1

Homemaker.esm=1

Loads.esm=1

ArmorKeywords.esm=1

NewCalibers.esp=1

ConcealedArmor.esm=1

TrueStormsFO4.esm=1

dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp=1

dD - Screen Blood Duration Medium.esp=1

CROSS_GoreCrits.esp=1

More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp=1

THBrows.esp=1

DeadBodyCollision.esp=1

PipBoyShadows.esp=1

Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp=1

ImmersiveVendors.esp=1

Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp=1

KSHairdos.esp=1

VisibleWeapons.esp=1

EasyHacking.esp=1

EasyLockpicking.esp=1

IcebreakerCDO-Piper.esp=1

Companion Infinite Ammo.esp=1

CraftableAmmo_plus.esp=1

CraftableAmmo.esp=1

Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp=1

CBBE.esp=1

BetterModDescriptions.esp=1

Extended weapon mods.esp=1

Quieter Settlements - Vanilla.esp=1

Quieter Settlements - Wasteland Workshop.esp=1

Quieter Settlements - Contraptions.esp=1

DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp=1

DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp=1

DV-Durable Vertibirds.esp=1

Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons.esp=1

Smoke-able Cigars.esp=1

LegendaryModification.esp=1

LegendaryModification2LM.esp=1

LegendaryModificationMisc.esp=1

ImprovedNuke.esp=1

Better Workshop Street Oil Lamps.esp=1

CarExplosions.esp=1

Radiant Clouds and Fogs.esp=1

TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp=1

DarkerNights.esp=1

DarkerNightsDetection.esp=1

Depth of Field Removal.esp=1

LoadingScreenFixNukaWorld.esp=1

MoreNoticeableHitEffect_Medium.esp=1

Remove Interior Fog - Wasteland Workshop.esp=1

Remove Interior Fog.esp=1

Remove Interior Fog - Automatron.esp=1

Remove Interior Fog - Contraptions Workshop.esp=1

Remove Interior Fog - Far Harbor.esp=1

Remove Interior Fog - Nuka Wolrd.esp=1

Yona_Weapon_DefenseGun.esp=1

Animated Drinking.esp=1

Lots More Facial Hair.esp=1

Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp=1

CROSS_MismatchedEyes_BlindEyes.esp=1

Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp=1

Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp=1

LooksMenu.esp=1

InstitWeapPosit.esp=1

44. Revolver Damage Increase.esp=1

BetterAutomatronWeapons.esp=1

DesertEagleSilencer.esp=0

M16.esp=1

M4A1.esp=1

MinigunDT.esp=1

TacticalMods.esp=1

M9.esp=1

WO-L96.esp=1

WO-M82.esp=1

WM Heavy Machine Gun - Standalone.esp=1

Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp=1

Armorsmith Extended.esp=1

EndorsCustomCombatArmor.esp=1

Craftable Armor Size.esp=1

BetterModDescriptionsCAS.esp=1

DX Commonwealth Mini Dresses.esp=1

ConcealedArmor.esp=1

ManCoat.esp=1

WastelandFashion.esp=1

Faded Glory - Soundtrack Expansion.esp=1

Remove Interior Fog - Vault-Tec Workshop.esp=1

RichMerchantsLessCaps.esp=1

CROSS_Swimsuit.esp=1

Lacy Underwear.esp=1

AA Better Companions - No Conflicts.esp=1

Deeper Thoughts with Less Babble (Curie).esp=1

LooksMirror.esp=1

Northland Diggers New.esp=1

SettlementPrivacy.esp=1

Workshop_Planters.esp=1

ScrapDeadThings.esp=1

Arbitration - Survival Damage by Player 2.5x.esp=1

Arbitration - Survival Damage to Player 5x.esp=1

Arbitration - Better Combat AI.esp=1

My_Minutemen.esp=1

EndorsCustomCombatArmor_AE.esp=1

EndorsCustomCombatArmor_WATM.esp=1

Arbitration - Reduced Grenade Spam.esp=1

Arbitration - Farther Grenade Detection.esp=1

Arbitration - Stealth Overhaul.esp=1

Arbitration - Fall Damage Overhaul.esp=1

Arbitration - Compass Radar Reduction.esp=1

Arbitration - Molotov.esp=1

Arbitration - No Condition Regeneration.esp=1

Arbitration - Automatron AI.esp=1

CarryWeight250.esp=1

CarryWeight25Strength.esp=1

Live Dismemberment - Mental.esp=0

Live Dismemberment - Mind-Blowing.esp=0

Live Dismemberment - POSTAL.esp=1

Live Dismemberment - Brutal.esp=0

Live Dismemberment - Insane-o.esp=0

Live Dismemberment - Liebermode.esp=0

Live Dismemberment - Regular.esp=0

Realistic Death Physics - ALL DLC.esp=1

AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1

ShellRain.esp=1

No More Fake Puddles - Nuka World 1-0.esp=1

IcebreakerCDO-Settlements.esp=1

AllSetsExtended.esp=1

SuperMutantOverhaul.esp=1

BetterCompanions.esp=1

RepairSanctuary.esp=1

EnclaveX02.esp=1

CombatZoneRestored.esp=1

Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - The Castle.esp=1

WET.esp=1

SPTFIRE-NUKA.esp=1

SPTFIRE.esp=1

50 cal Lovin.esp=1

ABundleofTape.esp=1

powerarmort49.esp=1

Remington.esp=1

Crossbow.esp=1

BetterModDescriptionsCOTC.esp=1

MP40.esp=1

fn five-seven v3.0.esp=1

CrankToCharge.esp=1

FO4 NPCs Travel.esp=1

AkaWaterWorld.esp=1

BOUNTIESFORYOU.esp=1

DPAssaultCarbine.esp=1

DOOMDesertEagle.esp=1

Scrap Everything - Core.esp=1

Scrap Everything - Far Harbor.esp=1

Scrap Everything - Nuka World.esp=1

Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp=1

SSEX.esp=1

Hellfirenew.esp=1

ASVektor.esp=1

HlgCavalryRevolver.esp=1

DelivererModsCompilation.esp=1

HlgShotguns.esp=1

Ducal Guard Service Revolver.esp=1

GammaRepeater.esp=1

GrenadeExpansionPack.esp=1

GXP - AWKCR Compatibility.esp=1

GXPDeployableTurretsPack.esp=1

GXPIntegration.esp=1

P220.esp=1

M9Sights.esp=1

Pipe Guns +.esp=1

PlasmaPulseRifleMod.esp=1

RemoteExplosives.esp=1

Schofield.esp=1

Boards to Spears.esp=1

pipeshotty.esp=1

M14.esp=1

WO-ScarH.esp=1

WO-G3.esp=1

WO-USAS.esp=1

WO-AK47.esp=1

WO-G20.esp=1

Wasteland Ordnance Merged.esp=1

Throwing Knife.esp=1

GaussRifleMk2.esp=1

tumbajamba Advanced Engineering.esp=1

GaussRifleMk2 - tAE - AWKCR.esp=1

TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp=1

TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp=1

TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp=1

TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp=1

AnotherLife.esp=1

Crafting Workbench.esp=1

Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp=1

Crafting Workbenches - Junk Items.esp=1

Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp=1

Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp=1

Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp=1

Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp=1

Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp=1

Jacket.esp=1

10mmRevolver.esp=1

9x39Project.esp=1

AtomicAnnieLagrieGun.esp=1

Dual Weapons Melee.esp=1

BattleRifle.esp=1

DD_bleu_Ump_Extreme_Lore_friendly_edition.esp=1

MikeMooresMCAM.esp=1

mjp_PTRS41ATR.esp=1

SCAR-L.esp=1

3dscopes-replacer.esp=1

3dscopes-replacer-addtospawn.esp=1

3dscopes-framework.esp=1

3dscopes-replacer-g67addon.esp=1

3dscopes-replacer-m14addon.esp=1

3dscopes-replacer-xm73addon.esp=1

3dscopes-replacer-UMPaddon.esp=1

3dscopes-M4A1addon.esp=1

3dscopes-G20addon.esp=1

3dscopes-uspaddon.esp=0

3dscopes-replacer-vektoraddon.esp=1

3dscopes-m9addon.esp=1

3dscopes-replacer-spetnazaddon.esp=0

3dscopes-defenseaddon.esp=1

3dscopes-replacer-FarHarbor.esp=1

3dscopes-replacer-NukaWorld.esp=1

M2216.esp=1

3dscopes-replacer-m2216addon.esp=1

Weaponsmith Extended 2.esp=1

Note: Some of these mods (Desert Eagle Silencer, and 2 of the 3dScopes ones) are unable to work, but I've disabled them.

Anyhow, thanks a lot to anyone that helps. Load order has been sorted through LOOT, but nothing else has been done.

[Arneercool]

Has it worked up until now?If so, maybe pipboy/flashlight mods, since some changes was made to that last update. Not sure really, but please let me know what you find out, as it is still on my list of messes to clean up.

Edited September 2, 2017 by Arneercool

[Khaorix]

It worked before the last update, but this happens to coincide with a big batch of mods I installed too. Hang on, I'll try and provide a list. I don't think I have any Pipboy mods, either.

 

EDIT: Among the most recent mods I installed are Armorsmith Extended and Weaponsmith extended, which are high on the list of suspects considering what is happening. Any idea if they're missing a requirement perhaps? I'll try reloading the game without these enabled to see if it changes anything.

Edited September 2, 2017 by Khaorix

[Arneercool]

PipBoyShadows.esp=1

Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp=1

Not sure it is in any way related, but that is where i would start, besides the mods you just downloaded.

Edited September 2, 2017 by Arneercool

[Khaorix]

Alright, I'll try and disable them too. Thanks for the lead.

EDIT: Disabling the two Extended mods did nothing. I'll try with the Pip-Boy mods then.

 

EDTI 2: Nope, the Pip-Boy mods being disabled changed nothing either. I'm out of leads. Thanks anyway, Arneercool! Much obliged. (no sarcasm intended)

Edited September 2, 2017 by Khaorix

[beebscalicor]

@khaorix - Hey there. Right off the bat, I can see one big issue that is likely to be causing your crash (hopefully the only one). If it is the only reason, then the fix is fast and easy. One of your mods Armorsmith Extended requires the keyword framework AWKCR, (used by Armorsmith Extended and your AWKCR patches for displaying armor and weapon mods, etc.) You have one called "Armor Keywords" but that doesn't look like the right mod. The file name for AWKCR will be called "Armor and Weapon Keywords Community Resource v3.2-6091-3-2". If so you do not have AWKCR installed your load order. It usually shows up at the top like the other master files. You do have AWKCR patches, so maybe it was there at one point but got uninstalled by accident? Who knows.

Without AWKCR, every time you open a weapon or piece of armor in the workbench, Armorsmith Extended will try to find the keywords it knows to display the details of that item, and it won't find them. So the game will freeze or crash.

Do two things:

1. Go download AWKCR and activate it.
   
2. Go Google search each of your standalone weapons and other weapon and armor mods that might be more than just re-textures of vanilla guns, and see if they have a patch for AWKCR as well. In my personal experience, the best way to find those is to use Google and search type like; "Nexus mods Fallout 4 (mod name) AWKCR patch". Do this for each one, install, activate.

Give that a try, and let us know how it goes.

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[Khaorix]

I was pretty sure I had AWKCR. I'll try redownloading this and see if it changes anything. Thanks for your time! If it doesn't work, I'll also try your second suggestion, but it's gonna take a while, so I hope itr's not it.

 

EDIT: I dunno why that happened, but deinstalling/reinstalling AWKCR made the workbench stop crashing the game. I still don't have the Smith mods activated though. I'll give it a shot now.

Edited September 3, 2017 by Khaorix

[beebscalicor]

@khaorix - If you re-downloaded AWKCR and/or reinstalled it, maybe it was a newer version with some fixes? Although, I know you probably already had the most current version, from when you recently installed Armorsmith and Weaponsmith Extended.

If you did mess with this last night, and it still crashed after turning Armorsmith and Weaponsmith back on, I thought of two things (Just in case):

1. I saw a bug-fix on nexus not too long ago fixing a CTD issue between Armorsmith Extended and AWKCR (sound familiar?). Your situation lines up. Maybe you are having the same issue as others who downloaded the bug-fix? FYI - I don't know anything about why the crash was happening that led to that bug-fix. It's also possible that the authors already fixed the issue in their own files, but maybe not.
   
   Here is the link to the bug-fix mod
   AWKCR - Armorsmith Extended - CTD FIX -
   
2. It also occurred to me that Armorsmith Extended has patches too (not just AWKCR). Heck, even Weaponsmith Extended might require patches for some of the guns you have. The only way to know for sure is to Google search each. Yeah I know.. I feel you on this one. Searching all those mods would be a huge pain. Hopefully you were able to resolve it last night.

[GUNNERSTEAM]

Ty it works

[NateoXMewfii]

Concealed Armor, get rid of it!...unless you know how to use mod groups in xedit then you could create it and have both Concealed Armor and the mod its asking you to use instead in the mod group named after the mod that your supposed to use instead.

Armorsmith Extended, sometimes get outdated if another mod installs Armor Keywords. Instead look at Armor Keywords in your plugins list and see if its installed by the mod its supposed to be installed from or from another mod. If another mod then uninstall that mod and maybe install it again after manually deleting everything that the other mod installed of Armor Keywords, then try installing the one mod again and don't choose to install Armor Keywords, then after that install the newest Armor Keywords.

Crafting Workbench, It tries to install Armor Keywords, don't let it.