ShadowDW Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Starting over with SSE, I have installed every mod trying to make sure there are no conflicts, and making sure to install in the right order, so as to get the right overwrites. It all seemed to work okay, until I found my way to Whiterun (the city that is the bane of my Skyrim existence). Now, I am experiencing random CTD's and I have no idea why. I have gone over everything and cannot find the problem. Everything has been installed properly with NMM, LOOT shows no issues at all (not even a message), and SSEEdit shows no errors at all (1 warning in the Skyrim.esm (identical record), but nothing I can do about that). I've even taken steps to ensure that the NMM Load Order precisely matches LOOT (or vice versa ... whichever). If I go outside of Whiterun, all is good ... inside Whiterun, everything seems fine, no lag, no fps drop, nothing, just random CTD. Can anyone offer up any ideas as to what may be happening? Load Order: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 6 6 ApachiiHair.esm 7 7 Campfire.esm 8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 9 9 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 10 a ApachiiHairMales.esm 11 b SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp 12 c RLO - Interiors.esp 13 d ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Darker.esp 14 e iNeed.esp 15 f iNeed - Extended.esp 16 10 SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp 17 11 ClimatesOfTamriel-WinterEditionSE.esp 18 12 RLO - Exteriors.esp 19 13 Skyrim Better Roads - The Rift.esp 20 14 Man Those Borders!.esp 21 15 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 22 16 Skyrim Better Roads - EastMarch.esp 23 17 BetterQuestObjectives.esp 24 18 Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp 25 19 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 26 1a SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp 27 1b EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp 28 1c TKAA.esp 29 1d Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp 30 1e Run For Your Lives.esp 31 1f Cloaks.esp 32 20 Inigo.esp 33 21 Skyrim Better Roads - Winterhold.esp 34 22 Hunterborn.esp 35 23 Shor's Stone.esp 36 24 Frostfall.esp 37 25 Ivarstead.esp 38 26 Kynesgrove.esp 39 27 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 40 28 Karthwasten.esp 41 29 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 42 2a HoldBorderBanners.esp 43 2b Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp 44 2c ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp 45 2d KS Hairdo's.esp 46 2e Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 47 2f SGEyebrows.esp 48 30 RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp 49 31 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp 50 32 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L2.esp 51 33 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x2.esp 52 34 Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp 53 35 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 54 36 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp 55 37 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 56 38 Footprints.esp 57 39 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 58 3a sandboxcylinderheight.esp 59 3b When Vampires Attack.esp 60 3c Realistic-Voice.esp 61 3d Runandwalkpaces.esp 62 3e Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods.esp 63 3f BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp 64 40 Lovely Lydia.esp 65 41 TrueStormsSE.esp 66 42 WetandCold.esp 67 43 LeftHandRings.esp 68 44 LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp 69 45 Dr_Bandolier.esp 70 46 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 71 47 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp 72 48 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp 73 49 EMHearthfireMoveKidsfix.esp 74 4a UNP Vanilla Outfits.esp 75 4b Book of UUNP - Textures.esp 76 4c FNIS.esp 77 4d XPMSSE.esp 78 4e dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp 79 4f Better Harvesting (animal loot version).esp 80 50 Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp 81 51 Hunterborn - iNeed Patch.esp 82 52 Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp 83 53 RLO - Effects.esp 84 54 RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp 85 55 SoS_CoT_Patch.esp 86 56 SOS_RLOInteriors_Patch.esp 87 57 WeaponsOf3E_SSE.esp 88 58 SoS_TrueStorms_Patch.esp 89 59 Open Cities Skyrim.esp 90 5a Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 91 5b RealisticWaterTwo.esp 92 5c Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp 93 5d Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 94 5e Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 95 5f RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp 96 60 RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp 97 61 RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp 98 62 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp 99 63 SoS_ImmersiveCitizens_Patch.esp100 64 RLO - IC Patch.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDW Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 UPDATE:I was able to get through some gameplay, and I ran into some issues with a couple of mods (of which I will attempt to contact the owner for a fix, while hoping the mod hasn't simply been ported into SSE) ... these may interest some people to know. First, is with the mod "The Kids Are Alright" (TKAA), version 2 (A Series of Unfortunate Events): I've run into some places where the kids are missing bodies entirely and just have faces and a weapon/shield (including a skeletal child summoned by a necromancer; I'm pretty certain this was at The Ritual standing stone location). Because version 2 does not make these "kids" mortal, I believe it has this unfortunate side effect of not having any kind of body. I don't believe this had anything to do with my CTD issue however, I'm also unsure if it will have any kind of effect on the game in the future. Secondly is with the mod iNeed - Food, Water, and Sleep, version 1.83: I believe this mod was the ultimate cause of my CTD issues. When I activated the mod from the Powers menu, and began to categorize the foods/drinks, the mod itself would not remember any of the selections I had made and as well, stopped counting food towards my "needs." Because of this, I had to turn the "death" feature off so as not to continually die from malnutrition, and ultimately, this lead to me having to disable the mod altogether. Upon doing so, my CTD issues ceased entirely as I have not had one CTD since. I hope this information is useful for others and I will attempt to let the mod authors know about these issues. Thanks for reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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