Everyone is Naked and I Don't Know What To Do

[BradtheMighty]

Exactly what it says on the tin: on both the player character and NPCs, whenever a cloak is equipped, an armor cuirass cannot be equipped... and vice versa, Forcing half the population of Skyrim to run around in their skivvies. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling both of my cloak mods and the chesko camping mod (which includes a few cloaks). It does not matter the mod that the cloak comes from or what kind of armor is being equipped. In addition, I know for sure that the armor does not just cease to exist, because it's still in their inventory, just sitting there cuz the capes have priority. This makes for some really awkward encounters.

This is my total load order, please halp:

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 WM Flora Fixes.esp
7 7 RSkyrimChildren.esm
8 8 BSAssets.esm
9 9 BSHeartland.esm
10 a Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
11 b SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
12 c Campfire.esm
13 d HighResTexturePack01.esp
14 e HighResTexturePack02.esp
15 f HighResTexturePack03.esp
16 10 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
17 11 The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
18 12 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
19 13 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
20 14 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
21 15 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
22 16 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
23 17 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
24 18 Sky Haven Temple and Onsen.esp
25 19 Settlements Expanded.esp
26 1a SoS - The Wilds.esp
27 1b Birdsofskyrim.esp
28 1c SoS - Civilization.esp
29 1d SoS - The Dungeons.esp
30 1e BattleAftermath.esp
31 1f BetterQuestObjectives.esp
32 20 ESFCompanions.esp
33 21 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
34 22 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
35 23 WetandCold.esp
36 24 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
37 25 HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp
38 26 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
39 27 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
40 28 Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
41 29 more idle markers.esp
42 2a TheChoiceIsYours.esp
43 2b wildlingsofskyrim1.5.esp
44 2c Dogs-of-Skyrim.esp
45 2d The Honored Dead.esp
46 2e Cloaks.esp
47 2f CFTO.esp
48 30 Expanded 1.4.esp
49 31 sandboxcylinderheight.esp
50 32 SimplyKnock.esp
51 33 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
52 34 AnonymousPeople.esp
53 35 WetandCold - Ashes.esp
54 36 Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp
55 37 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
56 38 Differently Ebony.esp
57 39 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
58 3a UniqueWeaponsRedone.esp
59 3b NonEssentialChildren.esp
60 3c Skyrim Sizes.esp
61 3d SkyUI.esp
62 3e TradeBarter.esp
63 3f JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
64 40 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
65 41 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
66 42 Immersive Horses.esp
67 43 DawnguardArsenal.esp
68 44 RSChildren - Complete.esp
69 45 RSChildren_PatchNEC.esp
RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp
70 46 Improved Dragon Shouts.esp
71 47 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp
72 48 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp
73 49 Signs_of_Skyrim.esp
74 4a Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp
75 4b ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
76 4c ISC WAFR Patch.esp
77 4d BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
78 4e BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp
79 4f Extended UI.esp
80 50 Beards.esp
81 51 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
82 52 ArchmageRobeTweak.esp
83 53 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
84 54 Dawnguard Hoods and Replacer.esp
85 55 Dawnguard Hoods.esp
86 56 Unique Uniques.esp
87 57 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
88 58 DisableFastTravel.esp
89 59 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
90 5a The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
91 5b summersetisles.esp
92 5c CFTO-Lanterns.esp
93 5d CFTO-CoveredCarriages.esp
94 5e TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
95 5f Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
96 60 ogDiverseDragons2.esp
97 61 FISS.esp
98 62 LessIntrusiveHUD.esp
99 63 AMatterOfTime.esp
100 64 WSCO - OcciFemaleVNL.esp
101 65 WSCO - OcciMaleVNL.esp
102 66 WSCO - Better NPCs.esp
103 67 Starting Spell Choice.esp
104 68 CACO_True Fortify Effects for Magic Skills.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp
105 69 Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp
106 6a SolitudeTempleFrescoes.esp
107 6b Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp
108 6c Logical Civil War Armor.esp
109 6d LostGrimoire.esp
110 6e PumpingIron.esp
111 6f Immersive Horses - Hearthfire Patch.esp
112 70 Immersive Speechcraft.esp
113 71 TailArmors_REPLACER.esp
114 72 HallgarthAdditionalHair.esp
115 73 SaturationBoost.esp
116 74 Krev The Skinner's Mantle by Hothtrooper44.esp
117 75 Shields of Jorrvaskr by Hothtrooper44.esp
118 76 Daedric Mage Armor.esp
119 77 Imperial Mage Armor by Natterforme.esp
120 78 Dragon Bone Mage Armor.esp
121 79 Ebony Mage Armor.esp
122 7a Glass Mage Armor Skyrim Vanilla.esp
123 7b Glass Mage Armor Ashlander Silver.esp
124 7c Glass Mage Armor Outlander Gold.esp
125 7d MageBackpack_byTumbajamba.esp
126 7e 1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
127 7f Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
128 80 UsefulDogs.esp
129 81 QuieterDogs.esp
130 82 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
131 83 Patch - Starting Spell Choice - Live Another Life.esp
132 84 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp

 

[saurusmaximus]

Have you tried turning off the equip cloaks feature for NPCs on Wet and Cold?

[BradtheMighty]

Ideally, I'd be able to keep the cloaks on my NPCs. And it also doesn't fix the fact that I can't keep cloaks on my player character.

Edited September 10, 2017 by BradtheMighty

[saurusmaximus]

That's fine, but did you actually try my suggestion? What I'm getting at, is there may be an issue with the cloak textures that come with the mod.

[SwiftDeathSK]

If I'm understanding the situation correctly, the armor and the capes are being equipped to the same slot. I'm fairly certain the capes normally use a free slot that is not typically assigned in the base game, so my guess is that you have a mod that has changed the slot number for either the capes or the body armor. Unfortunately I am not familiar with most of those armor mods. But, it's a start to help solve this issue.
(http://wiki.tesnexus.com/index.php/Skyrim_bodyparts_number)

 

 

I have noticed that you don't have a bashed patch or a TES5Edit Merged Patch in your load order. Again, not the most experienced with modding so I can't say with any confidence that this would help your particular issue, but I would use Wrye Bash and TES5Edit to make a bashed patch and a merged patch. Regardless of if it solves this particular issue, it's just good practice for modding large numbers of mods together in general.

[BradtheMighty]

That's fine, but did you actually try my suggestion? What I'm getting at, is there may be an issue with the cloak textures that come with the mod.

Yes I did try it, sorry, I shoulda included that in the original statement. I'm not a super experienced modder, but as far as I understand it, it's not a texture issue. The textures of the capes can be rendered, but only when a chest armor is not equipped.

 

If I'm understanding the situation correctly, the armor and the capes are being equipped to the same slot. I'm fairly certain the capes normally use a free slot that is not typically assigned in the base game, so my guess is that you have a mod that has changed the slot number for either the capes or the body armor. Unfortunately I am not familiar with most of those armor mods. But, it's a start to help solve this issue.

(http://wiki.tesnexus.com/index.php/Skyrim_bodyparts_number)

 

 

I have noticed that you don't have a bashed patch or a TES5Edit Merged Patch in your load order. Again, not the most experienced with modding so I can't say with any confidence that this would help your particular issue, but I would use Wrye Bash and TES5Edit to make a bashed patch and a merged patch. Regardless of if it solves this particular issue, it's just good practice for modding large numbers of mods together in general.

I sort of guessed the might be the situation. I've tried using TESedit before in the past, but I've found it's a little too complicated for my inexperienced self. I can try again though.

[BradtheMighty]

Update, clothes, and clothes-equivalents like robes do not have the same effect: IE a character can wear a cloak and a set of common clothes at the same time with no consequence.

[saurusmaximus]

 

That's fine, but did you actually try my suggestion? What I'm getting at, is there may be an issue with the cloak textures that come with the mod.

Yes I did try it, sorry, I shoulda included that in the original statement. I'm not a super experienced modder, but as far as I understand it, it's not a texture issue. The textures of the capes can be rendered, but only when a chest armor is not equipped.

 

If I'm understanding the situation correctly, the armor and the capes are being equipped to the same slot. I'm fairly certain the capes normally use a free slot that is not typically assigned in the base game, so my guess is that you have a mod that has changed the slot number for either the capes or the body armor. Unfortunately I am not familiar with most of those armor mods. But, it's a start to help solve this issue.

(http://wiki.tesnexus.com/index.php/Skyrim_bodyparts_number)

 

 

I have noticed that you don't have a bashed patch or a TES5Edit Merged Patch in your load order. Again, not the most experienced with modding so I can't say with any confidence that this would help your particular issue, but I would use Wrye Bash and TES5Edit to make a bashed patch and a merged patch. Regardless of if it solves this particular issue, it's just good practice for modding large numbers of mods together in general.

I sort of guessed the might be the situation. I've tried using TESedit before in the past, but I've found it's a little too complicated for my inexperienced self. I can try again though.

 

This was going to be my next suggestion. You should have a Bashed Patch regardless of whether it fixes this particular issue or not. Wrye Bash isn't that hard to use, there are plenty of tutorials out there to help.

[BradtheMighty]

Okay, thank you very much! I can try that

[Grospolina]

There are quite a few things wrong with your load order, and most of them are things that I had just recently fixed up on my game.

 

aMidianBorn - Book of Silence - Content Addon has a whole list of things that need doing and none of it is listed on the Description page. Instead, you have to go to the Posts page and read the stickies, and then go to the forum page and read the first post. Among the items are:

• Get the 3 hotfixes and overwrite the original files
• Manually rename the Textures\actors\dlc02\ash directory to ashman
• Manually move and enable the Improved Closefaced Helmets patch (imp_helm_legend.esp) if you're using that mod
• Disable aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp, Differently Ebony.esp and AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

Since you're using Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade (CCOR), you can disable these:

• 1nivWICCloaks.esp
• 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
• Cloaks.esp
• Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

You can then go into the MCM menu for CCOR and enable compatibilty there. I doubt that it's causing your cloak bug though. I've left them on before and it seemed fine.

 

The latest version of RS Children Overhaul no longer comes with a patch for Non-Essential Children. Now the author recommends either enabling the Playable patch (included in the installer) or installing Immersive Children. You can then get rid of Non-Essential Children, RSChildren_PatchNEC.esp and BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp.

 

Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul has a lot of compatibility patches and load order requirements. The only one I noticed that applies to you is that it should be below Alternate Start but still above Relationship Dialogue Overhaul. I guess you should move up Alternate Start.

 

The Dance of Death - A Killmove Mod is somewhat buggy and no longer supported by its author. Instead, you can use VioLens - A Killmove Mod, which has similar features.

 

And as previously mentioned, you definitely need a Bashed Patch.

 

Also, you're not using SMIM?

Edited September 14, 2017 by Grospolina