Make specials really SPECIALS

[betto212]

forrest gump can be a professor of advanced quantum physics if he studie a lot ? no ... why not ? because he lacks SPECIAL intelligente

my idea is remove the concept of useless specials like charisma for who like to walk alone in mojave .it add a penalty when the player have a skill to high for its SPECIAL exemple each 1 of inteligence allow 10 of science and what goes beyond that 2/3 will be removed by perk effect so

 

 

 

100 - (100 -10)*2 /3 = 40 would be the science

 

 

or with half penalty

 

 

1 of intelligence and 100 of science

 

100 - (100 -10) /2 = 55 would be the science

 

 

 

 

so what you think ?

Edited March 8, 2012 by betto212

[Argol]

forrest gump can be a professor of advanced quantum physics if he studie a lot ? no ... why not ? because he lacks SPECIAL intelligente

my idea is remove the concept of useless specials like charisma for who like to walk alone in mojave .it add a penalty when the player have a skill to high for its SPECIAL exemple each 1 of inteligence allow 10 of science and what goes beyond that 2/3 will be removed by perk effect so

 

 

 

100 - (100 -10)*2 /3 = 40 would be the science

 

 

or with half penalty

 

 

1 of intelligence and 100 of science

 

100 - (100 -10) /2 = 55 would be the science

 

 

 

 

so what you think ?

I can see what your getting at but in the end Intelligence is the only real exception out of the special's. You don't need to be strong to fight unarmed or melee, Low perception already has it's draw back in regards of enemies being able to ambush you. low Endurance has draw back in how much health you have You don't need to be charismatic to be able to haggle for a good price or speak. low Agility has a draw back in making you slower. Intelligence is kinda the wrong name but it fits with the whole SPECIAL thing. think of it as the capacity to learn, Not as how smart they are.

[betto212]

 

I can see what your getting at but in the end Intelligence is the only real exception out of the special's. You don't need to be strong to fight unarmed or melee, Low perception already has it's draw back in regards of enemies being able to ambush you. low Endurance has draw back in how much health you have You don't need to be charismatic to be able to haggle for a good price or speak. low Agility has a draw back in making you slower. Intelligence is kinda the wrong name but it fits with the whole SPECIAL thing. think of it as the capacity to learn, Not as how smart they are.

 

let me politely discord

 

if you born with 1 of strength you born weak pretty you are a dwarf a ( weak one ) so no metter how much you train you will not be lethal on meele like a guy with 2 meters that trained the same

for perception with you born almost blind 1 of perception not metter how much you train you will not shoot better then someone wth good vision

and so go on.

Edited March 8, 2012 by betto212

[Argol]

 

I can see what your getting at but in the end Intelligence is the only real exception out of the special's. You don't need to be strong to fight unarmed or melee, Low perception already has it's draw back in regards of enemies being able to ambush you. low Endurance has draw back in how much health you have You don't need to be charismatic to be able to haggle for a good price or speak. low Agility has a draw back in making you slower. Intelligence is kinda the wrong name but it fits with the whole SPECIAL thing. think of it as the capacity to learn, Not as how smart they are.

 

let me politely discord

 

if you born with 1 of strength you born weak pretty you are a dwarf a ( weak one ) so no metter how much you train you will not be lethal on meele like a guy with 2 meters that trained the same

for perception with you born almost blind 1 of perception not metter how much you train you will not shoot better then someone wth good vision

and so go on.

Melee=/=brute force. You don't need strength if you use your opponents strength and momentum against them. Perception is not sight, it is awareness. The blind can be perceptive through the use of sound. They may hear the footsteps or the sound of the fiends readying their guns before someone who can see is even aware.

[betto212]

 

I can see what your getting at but in the end Intelligence is the only real exception out of the special's. You don't need to be strong to fight unarmed or melee, Low perception already has it's draw back in regards of enemies being able to ambush you. low Endurance has draw back in how much health you have You don't need to be charismatic to be able to haggle for a good price or speak. low Agility has a draw back in making you slower. Intelligence is kinda the wrong name but it fits with the whole SPECIAL thing. think of it as the capacity to learn, Not as how smart they are.

 

let me politely discord

 

if you born with 1 of strength you born weak pretty you are a dwarf a ( weak one ) so no metter how much you train you will not be lethal on meele like a guy with 2 meters that trained the same

for perception with you born almost blind 1 of perception not metter how much you train you will not shoot better then someone wth good vision

and so go on.

Melee=/=brute force. You don't need strength if you use your opponents strength and momentum against them. Perception is not sight, it is awareness. The blind can be perceptive through the use of sound. They may hear the footsteps or the sound of the fiends readying their guns before someone who can see is even aware.

 

two mens with same amouth of skills the stronger one will more deadly

[Argol]

 

I can see what your getting at but in the end Intelligence is the only real exception out of the special's. You don't need to be strong to fight unarmed or melee, Low perception already has it's draw back in regards of enemies being able to ambush you. low Endurance has draw back in how much health you have You don't need to be charismatic to be able to haggle for a good price or speak. low Agility has a draw back in making you slower. Intelligence is kinda the wrong name but it fits with the whole SPECIAL thing. think of it as the capacity to learn, Not as how smart they are.

 

let me politely discord

 

if you born with 1 of strength you born weak pretty you are a dwarf a ( weak one ) so no metter how much you train you will not be lethal on meele like a guy with 2 meters that trained the same

for perception with you born almost blind 1 of perception not metter how much you train you will not shoot better then someone wth good vision

and so go on.

Melee=/=brute force. You don't need strength if you use your opponents strength and momentum against them. Perception is not sight, it is awareness. The blind can be perceptive through the use of sound. They may hear the footsteps or the sound of the fiends readying their guns before someone who can see is even aware.

 

two mens with same amouth of skills the stronger one will more deadly

 

Ok if I understand correctly, you're saying that if two people skilled in melee combat fight each other. the one with more physical strength would win. which is utter bulls***. I told you Strength is not the beat all end all for melee combat. Many things factor into a straight one on one fight.

[Greslin]

two mens with same amouth of skills the stronger one will more deadly

Not necessary. Same skills, it'll be the one who moves fastest and is the most agile. It doesn't matter how strong your enemy is or how awesome their battle plans are if they never have a chance to execute them. IRL, high strength often comes at a steep agility toll.

[betto212]

two mens with same amouth of skills the stronger one will more deadly

Not necessary. Same skills, it'll be the one who moves fastest and is the most agile. It doesn't matter how strong your enemy is or how awesome their battle plans are if they never have a chance to execute them. IRL, high strength often comes at a steep agility toll.

 

a exemple why in boxing there are height categories ?

 

ok with melee weapon a faster men could win but strength and stamina are put in the formula ,but if armor get in acount the stronger one get the advantage again. the agile one need to hit in the weak spots of the stronger one but the stronger just need to hit the weaker to cause a hell lot of damage. heavy infantry usually beat light infantry.

 

you probaly are thinking in katanas or other curved blades , they cut flesh pretty well but not armor . good part of the drill were hit on armor joints.

Edited March 8, 2012 by betto212