Unable to change character

[Caellidwen]

So been playing for a while, my issue right now is CTD whenever I create a character. Doesn't matter if its at the beginning or the way through. I had Apachii hair installed first and did read that it caused issues so I disabled it to at least create the character except it will NOT let me be anything except a male nord with no changes at all. Everything else crashes the game. So I made my stupid nord so that I could at least start playing. This current play-through I used LAL. I will be honest that I have 200+ mods and I have been banging my head as to what to do. Do I disable everything, attempt to change myself to a woman and then 'hope' it lets me actually change her?

 

Right now everything crashes, I tried showracemenu alternative mod for SE and I put the thing as far down on my mod list as possible, I installed the precache killer from Oldrim that had been suggested, which did once upon a time fix issues I did have with other characters I had when I created. I have uninstalled apachii and installed KS and I am still crashing. With one of my gameplays I had successfully gotten a character change using the Player home Skyfall Estate so I reinstalled that and I still crash. I use LOOT and NMM every time.

 

I have no idea what else to do. Please help

 

(If I knew how to show a copy of all my mods I would but when I try to highlight via NMM it keeps wanting to uninstall)

[yian]

Sorry friend, but without looking at all your mods in their load order, there is not much we could do for you.

[Caellidwen]

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

6 6 SexLab.esm

7 7 Campfire.esm

8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

9 9 Falskaar.esm

10 a Gray Fox Cowl.esm

11 b Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm

12 c GeneralStores.esm

13 d RSkyrimChildren.esm

14 e Cutting Room Floor.esp

15 f SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

16 10 Ducks and Swans.esp

17 11 100XCarryWeight.esp

18 12 AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp

19 13 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

20 14 Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp

21 15 ELFX - Exteriors.esp

22 16 ValdacilsItemSorting.esp

23 17 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp

24 18 iNeed.esp

25 19 iNeed - Extended.esp

26 1a CLARALUX SSE.esp

27 1b WeightlessOV_MERGED.esp

28 1c AnotherSortingMod_2017-SSE.esp

29 1d Book Covers Skyrim.esp

30 1e ELFX - NoPlayerHomes.esp

31 1f Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp

32 20 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

33 21 Immersive Jewelry.esp

34 22 Friendlier Taverns.esp

SFCO - LotD Patch.esp

35 23 PCE - ELFX PATCH.esp

36 24 tcbm.esp

37 25 Morrowloot.esp

38 26 HSTNF.esp

39 27 EconomyOverhaulandSpeechcraftImprovements.esp

40 28 VISPatch-BookCovers.esp

41 29 goodbrother.esp

42 2a OBIS SE.esp

43 2b OpulentThievesGuild.esp

44 2c GrandPaladinSE.esp

45 2d ELFX - Weathers.esp

46 2e IcePenguinWorldMap.esp

47 2f Extended Character Creation Options.esp

48 30 Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp

49 31 SexLab_Solutions.esp

50 32 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

51 33 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

52 34 Holidays.esp

53 35 Joy of Perspective.esp

54 36 SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp

OpulentOutfits_2017-SSE AIO.esp

55 37 Armor and Clothing Diversity.esp

56 38 BetterQuestObjectives.esp

57 39 TheChoiceIsYours.esp

58 3a JKs Whiterun.esp

59 3b Cloaks.esp

60 3c ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp

61 3d SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp

62 3e Artifacts.esp

63 3f Better Harvesting.esp

64 40 HearthfireMultiKid.esp

65 41 Mystic Condenser.esp

66 42 SkyfallEstate.esp

67 43 Dracos Hearthfire Homes Lakeview.esp

68 44 DLCIntegration.esp

69 45 DoubleBedsAreForTwoPeople.esp

70 46 Ars Metallica.esp

71 47 Draco's Hearthfire Homes Heljarchen.esp

72 48 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp

73 49 Relic Hunter Triss.esp

74 4a PCE - Holidays Patch.esp

75 4b Tentapalooza.esp

76 4c ajd_pizzaandpizzeria_sse_pc.esp

77 4d RSChildren - ACK.esp

78 4e ChickenVarietyKILLABLE.esp

79 4f Dracos Hearthfire Homes Windstad.esp

80 50 HF_Heljarchen_PHBXB1_EX.esp

81 51 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp

82 52 Improved Adoptions.esp

83 53 WheelsOfLull.esp

84 54 ForgottenCity.esp

85 55 armored-horses.esp

86 56 PCE - No Custom Music patch.esp

87 57 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp

88 58 DBM_CRF_Patch.esp

89 59 Mystic Condenser - USSEP Patch.esp

90 5a PCE - Legacy of the Dragonborn Patch.esp

91 5b The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

92 5c DBM_GoodBrother_Patch.esp

93 5d Gildergreen Regrown.esp

94 5e Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp

95 5f DBM_DGE_Crossbow_Patch.esp

96 60 AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp

97 61 Higher Bounty Rewards.esp

98 62 UNP Vanilla Outfits.esp

99 63 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

100 64 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp

101 65 Ghosu - Auriel.esp

102 66 Better Females - Eyebrows.esp

103 67 BooksOfSkyrim.esp

104 68 BrokenMysteryOfTalaraBooks.esp

105 69 Brows.esp

106 6a ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

107 6b Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

108 6c Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp

109 6d Cooking_In_Skyrim_v_2_0_Salty_Edition.esp

110 6e ORM-Arvak.esp

111 6f DCR_KingCrusaderMegaPack_SSE.esp

112 70 Dragonborn Delayed - After Dragonslayer.esp

113 71 DreamBurrowsRegalHuntsmanArmor.esp

114 72 HardcorePrices.esp

115 73 shockselsweyrimports.esp

ELFX - Moonpath.esp

116 74 BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp

ECCO - Extended Slider Colors Patch.esp

117 75 ExtendedStay.esp

118 76 ExtendedStay - Campfire Add-On.esp

119 77 FNIS.esp

120 78 General Stores All DLC Addon.esp

121 79 GoOnAhead.esp

122 7a Golden Rings Of Craft.esp

123 7b GoldSpell.esp

124 7c Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

125 7d Immersive Jewelry - Earrings for Males.esp

126 7e Improved Adoptions Patch.esp

127 7f Insignificant Object Remover.esp

128 80 Jewelry of FavoredSoul.esp

JumpHigher_100.esp

JumpHigher_1000.esp

JumpHigher_130.esp

JumpHigher_175.esp

JumpHigher_225.esp

JumpHigher_300.esp

129 81 JumpHigher_500.esp

130 82 DBM_AmuletsOfSkyrim_Patch.esp

131 83 DBM_Cloaks_Patch.esp

132 84 VISPatch-ImmersiveArmors.esp

133 85 DBM_IA_Patch.esp

134 86 VISPatch-ImmersiveSounds.esp

135 87 SPTUnlimitedAmuletsSE.esp

136 88 DBM_ISC_Patch.esp

137 89 DBM_RSChildren.esp

138 8a Pacifist Mini-Mods Collection.esp

139 8b lilithsLacerator.esp

140 8c Local Fare.esp

141 8d ModestElderly.esp

142 8e SnowElfCrown.esp

143 8f moonpath.esp

144 90 MoreExpensiveFood&Drink.esp

145 91 Move it Dammit - Less Wait Time.esp

146 92 DBM_MysticCondenser_Patch.esp

147 93 AK- Namira for Good Guys.esp

148 94 The Male Organs of Sentient Races.esp

149 95 No NPC Greetings.esp

VISPatch-OBIS Patrols Addon.esp

150 96 PCE - USSEP Patch.esp

151 97 Realistic Haircolors.esp

152 98 KrittaKittyHorsesForSSE.esp

153 99 XPMSSE.esp

154 9a dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp

155 9b reflection-levelupmessages.esp

156 9c Skysan_Stalhrim.esp

157 9d RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp

158 9e DBM_RoyalArmory_Patch.esp

159 9f CRF_RSChildrenPatch.esp

160 a0 RSChildren - Complete.esp

161 a1 RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp

162 a2 RSChildren_PatchUSSEP.esp

163 a3 SexLabMatchMaker.esp

164 a4 Companions No Werewolf Option.esp

165 a5 ogSplendorDragons.esp

166 a6 SLPleasure.esp

167 a7 Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp

168 a8 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

169 a9 BCS_TCIY_Patch.esp

170 aa BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp

171 ab FS_UltimateAssortment.esp

172 ac Unique Uniques.esp

SPTUnlimitedAmuletsRingsBrumaSE.esp

173 ad SPTUnlimitedRingsSE.esp

174 ae UnreadBooksGlow.esp

ATpatch_unofficial.esp

175 af VISPatch-AcquisitiveSoulGems.esp

176 b0 VISPatch-ArsMetallica.esp

177 b1 VISPatch-Campfire.esp

178 b2 VISPatch-CuttingRoomFloor.esp

179 b3 VISPatch-Holidays.esp

180 b4 VISPatch-iNeed.esp

181 b5 VISPatch-MultipleAdoptions.esp

182 b6 VISPatch-SkyTESTAnimals.esp

183 b7 VISPatch-UnreadBooksGlow.esp

184 b8 VISPatch-ApachiiDivineElegance.esp

185 b9 When Vampires Attack.esp

186 ba 1nivWICCloaks.esp

187 bb VISPatch-AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

188 bc VISPatch-EconomyOverhaulAndSpeechcraftImprovments.esp

189 bd DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp

190 be zzArmormashups.esp

191 bf SkyUI_SE.esp

192 c0 RideWithMe.esp

193 c1 Bijin NPCs.esp

194 c2 Bijin Warmaidens.esp

195 c3 Bijin Wives.esp

196 c4 Emfy Cleric Robes.esp

197 c5 MoreColorfulRobes.esp

198 c6 R18pn - Shanoa Armors.esp

199 c7 Tembtra Thief Armor.esp

200 c8 Ursine Armor Pack.esp

201 c9 ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp

202 ca KS Hairdo's.esp

203 cb MLU.esp

204 cc MLU - Summermyst.esp

205 cd DBM_MLU.esp

206 ce My Home Is Your Home.esp

207 cf Open Cities Skyrim.esp

208 d0 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

209 d1 Open Cities Skyrim - Holidays.esp

210 d2 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

211 d3 ELFXEnhancer.esp

212 d4 Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp

213 d5 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

214 d6 Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp

215 d7 DBM_OpenCities_Patch.esp

216 d8 PCE - Open Cities Patch.esp

217 d9 PCE - Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch.esp

218 da PCE - Live Another Life Patch.esp

219 db RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp

220 dc RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp

221 dd Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

222 de VISPatch-AlternateStart.esp

223 df VISPatch-ImmersiveCitizensAI.esp

224 e0 VISPatch-RelationshipDialogueOverhaul.esp

[yian]

Thank you. And you mentioned that you tried to start a completely new game but it still doesn't work? Also, did you at any point remove / uninstall any mods during your play?

Edited October 5, 2017 by yian

[yian]

And btw, who recommended you to use precache killer for SSE? That doesn't make a lot of sense.

[yian]

And one more thing, are you using any oldrim mods?

Edited October 5, 2017 by yian

[Caellidwen]

When I was looking up fixes for CTD crashes with showracemenu for Special edition someone on other sites had posted it. Yes I do use a few Oldrim Mods, Gold spell, 100x carry weight, jump faster which I don't think are interfering but I could definitely be wrong. That's why I'm asking. I had the issue on my last game and ended up staying male but finally when I got to Skuldalfn and then Sovengarde I couldn't keep the game stable. It would not let me save and I could not rest as I would CTD when I attempted. So I made this char a few days ago out of utter frustration. That one I had been playing a month and as the people over in Legacy of the Dragonborn can attest I've had issues. Most of the mods here are what I was using then as I completely uninstalled the game and NMM and then reloaded the game with the mods in the hope of saving that game. I could not and having 550+ items saved in the Library done was hard to swallow

[yian]

Um, I am unable to pinpoint the exact moment your game has gone bonker at this point because so many things could have caused it. Until a more knowledgeable person come along, here are my suggestions:

 

1) avoid all form 43 mods.

 

2) never add / remove mods without starting a new game.

 

3) avoid having too many script-heavy mods.

 

And you can probably forget about saving that old save game. There is no chance you could salvage something like this. :sad:

 

One more question: Is your version of Realistic Ragdoll and Forces compatible with XPMSSE?

Edited October 5, 2017 by yian

[Caellidwen]

Um, I am unable to pinpoint the exact moment your game has gone bonker at this point because so many things could have caused it. Until a more knowledgeable person come along, here are my suggestions:

 

1) avoid all form 43 mods.

 

2) never add / remove mods without starting a new game.

 

3) avoid having too many script-heavy mods.

 

And you can probably forget about saving that old save game. There is no chance you could salvage something like this. :sad:

 

One more question: Is your version of Realistic Ragdoll and Forces compatible with XPMSSE?

it should be its for special edition. Just in case I uninstalled XPMSSE and reinstalled it - crashed again as soon as I loaded the showrace screen. It twirls to his face and then POOF. I haven't added any new mods since the new game other then Emfry and umbra clothing mods, just in case this worked.

[Caellidwen]

Its been a couple of days, I guess no one has any ideas?