Inexplicable CTDs

[lawfish88]

Everything seemed to be running smoothly, so I kept installing new mods when I started getting CTDs in-game all of the sudden. They always occur 1-2 minutes after loading a game. I've started new playthroughs several times, tweaking my list of installed mods (I use Mod Organizer) according to what seemed to be causing a problem in the papyrus logs. I can post those if they'd help, but there are a lot of them and they're rather long.

âMy load order is quite long, as you can see. Is it just not possible to have this many mods without irreconcilable conflicts?

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
MagicDuelReborn.esm
EFFCore.esm
SkyMoMod.esm
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
WM Flora Fixes.esp
RSkyrimChildren.esm
Campfire.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
moonpath.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
TouringCarriages.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
SkyUI.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp
Skyrim - Player Re-Voiced - Elven Races Complete - Male.esp
Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp
Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
VioLens.esp
UltimateDragons.esp
TKDodge.esp
New Weapon Parry.esp
LostGrimoire.esp
UIExtensions.esp
All Geared Up.esp
FNIS.esp
El_WayfarersCoat.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ETaC - Complete.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
Dark Fantasy Overhaul.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
3DNPC.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
JKs Skyrim Major Cities.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
hold guard.esp
Undeath.esp
SoS - The Wilds.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes_HighSpawn.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
WetandCold.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
Birdsofskyrim.esp
ELFX - NoPlayerHomes.esp
SoS - Civilization.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
SoS - The Dungeons.esp
ELFX - Weathers.esp
Immersive Whiterun.esp
BattleAftermath.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
CWIELnFXPatch.esp
Immersive Solstheim.esp
Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
OwnCivilWar.esp
Tes Arena NorthKeep.esp
more idle markers.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
Mortal Enemies.esp
DeadlyMutilation.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp
dD-DG-DB-MM-SiC EBT Patch v4.esp
CWINPCOpulentOutfits.esp
Compatibility_ICoW_CoWNPCImprov.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp
OpulentOutfits_AIO-2017.esp
Tes Arena Nimalten.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
ELFX - NoHjerim.esp
BosmericDrunkenHuntsmanReborn.esp
The Honored Dead.esp
CampArgentum.esp
TES Arena Amol.esp
StavesofSkyrim.esp
UniqueBorderGates-All.esp
Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
Immersive Horses.esp
Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
CampVarglya.esp
Frostfall.esp
SoS - The Dungeons-PatchCoTHardcore.esp
FS_UltimateAssortment.esp
Bells of Skyrim.esp
CampNewZainab.esp
CaranthirTowerReborn.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
CUYC_CleanUpYourCorpses.esp
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
GuildStarter.esp
ELFX - Moonpath.esp
NoldorArmor.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
ElvenChainMail.esp
1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch-NoGuards.esp
ElvenHelmetFix.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Mage Outfit Texture Overhaul.esp
Alduin78_StarWars.esp
ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp
ELFX - NoProudspireManor.esp
ELFX - NoHoneyside.esp
ELFX - NoSeverinManor.esp
ELFX - NoVlindrelHall.esp
College of Winterhold NPC Impovement.esp
SolitudeTempleFrescoes.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
RND_AnimalLoot.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp
Catsofskyrim.esp
PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp
Dogsofskyrim.esp
Immersive Citizens - MTE patch.esp
RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp
RDO - CACO Patch.esp
RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
RDO - Immersive Horses Patch.esp
SleepToGainExperience.esp
PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
CobbEncumbrance.esp
DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp
Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
Real Roads.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
Bells of Skyrim - JKs Skyrim Patch.esp
Reaper's The Dark Tower.esp
Immersive Citizens - ELFXHardcore patch.esp
Brows.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
RSChildren.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
RevampedExteriorFog.esp
Supreme Fog.esp
ETaC - Complete EEO Patch.esp
ETaC - IHO Compatibility Patch.esp
Footprints.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
Equipping Overhaul.esp
Evil MasterMind Armor.esp
Open Cities Skyrim.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp
Bells of Skyrim - OCS+ICAIO Patch.esp
ASIS-Dependency.esp

[AliasNick]

Hello.

 

The first thing I see in there is that you have those:

 

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

 

They are not required since you already have

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

 

The legendary patch, aka USLEEP, should be the only one loaded from that series. In other words the individual ones are deprecated and should not be used.

 

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Second, and even worse imo, you don't seem to have any TES5Merged Patch nor any BashedPatch in that load order. For such an exhaustive modlist, they both become mandatory.

[lawfish88]

Hello.

 

The first thing I see in there is that you have those:

 

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

 

They are not required since you already have

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

 

The legendary patch, aka USLEEP, should be the only one loaded from that series. In other words the individual ones are deprecated and should not be used.

 

---

 

Second, and even worse imo, you don't seem to have any TES5Merged Patch nor any BashedPatch in that load order. For such an exhaustive modlist, they both become mandatory.

 

Thanks, yeah I don't know why those patches showed up in my load order, I haven't selected the ESPs.

 

​I'll look into the patches.

[lawfish88]

My one concern with the unofficial patches is I installed them into my main game before using MO. I don't think that should be a problem though since they can simply be overwritten through MO by USLEP and others, and I disabled the esp.

[AliasNick]

MO can manage files that are outside of its virtual folder. And by looking at your load order the older files are overwriting USLEEP. Unless you disabled them in MO indeed.

 

But more importantly, you should really build yourself a TES5Merged Patch and a BashedPatch. These are crucial elements in any load order. Lots of tutorials online on these two.